Posted on 11/01/2002 1:50:03 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
Oct. 31, 2002 | Boo!
Letters continue to pour in about the Wellstone memorial matter, with a new theme today: "I thought I'd remind you of the situation which Hillary Clinton found herself in at Madison Square Garden last year at a concert honoring the policemen and firefighters who gave their lives on September 11, 2001."
Quite a few had the same thought: "Remember the boos that greeted Hillary at the concert for New York after 9/11? This was after lusty cheers for Giuliani and even Pataki. Radio stations here played it over and over again, finding the incredible bad taste absolutely hilarious. The whole event played more like a Giuliani coronation than an opportunity for friends and relatives to remember and celebrate the victims, which is what it was." Their point was to compare and contrast: "When Hillary Clinton was unfairly booed by firemen at the 9-11 concert she sucked it up and moved on. She knew the events of 9-11 were bigger and more important than her hurt feelings."
Rightly so – even if the usual media suspects couldn't resist gloating, as MWO documents in detail , with links to Drudge, Rush and the rest of the gang. I came across a strange column by a Boston Herald columnist who praised the drunken cops and firemen for providing her with a "deeply satisfying moment." (She didn't mean it the way it sounds, but the Clinton-haters really did get off on that incident.)
Now let's fast forward a year, when the firefighters who had cheered Bush and jeered the Clintons found out how deeply the new President valued their sacrifice. No doubt Karl Rove and his White House crew enjoyed the booing of Hillary at the 9/11 event, but that didn't keep them from slashing away at federal funds for the crippled New York Fire Department.
Flash forward again to early September, when the firefighters union joined with Democratic Senators to fight the Bush administration's union-busting Homeland Security bill. The picture that accompanies this story on the union website shows Clinton standing next to FDNY Battalion Chief Michael Telesca, a real hero of 9/11 with a battered helmet to prove it, who said, "Frankly, I am sickened that certain government leaders believe that union membership and the sanctity of a union contract are somehow anti-American or contrary to the interests of national security." Who are they booing now?
Just let it be
While many cheered my dismissal of Republican/media grousing about the Wellstone memorial, a substantial minority scolded me for letting the raucous stadium crowd off too lightly. Leaving aside the raving wingnuts who litter every mailbag, the most distressed readers are themselves liberals and Minnesotans. Their misgivings should be heard, even if I don't entirely share them.
A constituent who has wept copiously since the crash last Friday wrote: "It was such a strange feeling to have so many luminaries just a few miles from my home, and so much of the evening was a wonderful tribute. However, Rick Kahn didn't just go over the top a little bit in his tribute to Paul. I don't even know if you could call that a tribute, it was so exploitative. Just like so many of us here in Minnesota, I came to love the integrity of Paul and what Rick did was so contrary to the principles that Paul lived by. Paul would have shown every ounce of respect due to those in the crowd from the opposing party. Yes, he would have passionately asked for the people to continue in their support of such principles. But you can see from the way his own sons conducted themselves a far better example of the way Paul himself would have preferred that request to be made ... I'm a liberal and proud of it, and I have no reservation about saying that Rick Kahn made me sad and ashamed with his atrocious behavior."
Others were considerably less troubled: "What I saw was a beautiful and loving tribute to a compassionate and dedicated senator, his wife and daughter, and their staff members ... Sure it was dramatic and partisan -- just like Paul Wellstone."
And this, from someone who knew the Wellstones and their aides: "My husband and I were at the memorial last night ... and Wellstone's family values were obvious in what his kids had to say. The political stuff ... well, Paul was politics for people. We wanted politics last night -- we loved Paul for his politics. Paul would have loved every second of it! The service reflected how this tragedy affected all Minnesotans who loved our senator." (Pioneer Press columnist Nick Coleman -- presumably no relation to Norm -- took a similar view.)
For some there were important multicultural nuances: "What Wellstone's supporters put on Tuesday was neither rally nor solemn memorial -- it was a good old-fashioned Irish wake, complete with funny stories, singing and an invocation of the loved one's spirit. Of course partisan politics were a part of that -- how could they not be, given Wellstone's passion and the timing of his death?"
And perhaps more pertinently: "What's being lost here is the Republicans' lack of understanding of Judaism. They're decrying the behavior at 'Paul Wellstone's funeral' on Tuesday. The fact is, the funeral was Monday. Tuesday was the post-funeral celebration of his life -- a long-standing Jewish tradition ... This is how his survivors chose to celebrate his life. If the Republicans don't like it, it's none of their damned business." (The Norwegians and Swedes may be too reticent to send in their interpretations.)
The most telling complaints directed at me involved the booing of Trent Lott and Jesse Ventura: "I've always liked your column because I thought you were reasonable and intelligent. Your defense of many Democrats' shameful behavior at the Wellstone service last night has changed my mind, though; you're just like everybody else, claiming that horrible behavior is excusable as long as it's done by our guys. Well, that's a load of crap. I am embarrassed to share party affiliation with the people who booed our governor and the Republican senator at the ceremony last night. These men -- who knew Mr. Wellstone personally, something that few in the crowd could claim -- showed up to pay their respects and commiserate, and their gesture of goodwill was rewarded with boos. Pathetic."
I didn't mean to imply that booing was excusable, of course. In passing, I said the opposite (although I also think the Republicans are making too much of those jeers). While there are plenty of reasons to boo the Senate minority leader, attending a memorial for a deceased colleague is not among them. I ought to have said that clearly yesterday.
Meanwhile, Wellstone's campaign manager has wisely apologized for the excessiveness of Kahn's speech. Again, however, far too much is being made of one person's remarks, which briefly (if not briefly enough) interrupted an uplifting three-hour event. Thankfully, Ventura's tantrum appears to have ended.
As for Vin Weber and the other shrieking Republicans, their conduct during the Clinton years offered no hint of the delicate sensibilities they now display. Their tantrum is undignified and silly, too. Inappropriate remarks are a hazard of unscripted wakes and memorials, as anybody who has attended a few of them probably knows. In fact, with the human emotions arising from this tragedy, and the tensions surrounding the upcoming election, it's fortunate that nothing worse happened in front of TV cameras and 20,000 people.
The opportunism of Rush Limbaugh and the other whiners was entirely predictable. No complaints need be entertained from the ghouls who have exploited so many deaths for political reasons, from Vince Foster to the children of Susan Smith. The most decent responses came from Republicans like Jim Ramstad, a congressman from Minnesota and a close Wellstone friend who was tastelessly singled out in Kahn's remarks, and former U.S. Sen. Rod Grams, who drew a few boos himself.
"This was their event," Grams said afterward. "They can do what they want. We're here tonight to say goodbye to a friend. That's all I'm thinking right now." "I think it's unfortunate that a memorial service has become a center of controversy," said Ramstad the next day. "Last night was about paying our final respects to six wonderful people and beloved Minnesotans who perished in a terrible tragedy. That was where my focus was. People get carried away sometimes with emotions. We all get carried away sometimes with emotions. Just let it be."
He's right. There are a few days left to discuss whether Mondale is up to the job, why Coleman suddenly realized he was a Republican after chairing Clinton's campaign and stumping to reelect Wellstone -- and what turning the Senate back to Trent Lott would mean to Minnesota and the rest of the country. It's hard to imagine that the smart, patriotic Americans who gave Wellstone two terms, and who were about to send him back to Washington for a third, would let their decision be determined by a few minutes of rude behavior at his memorial.
On the other hand, no one expected Hillary to show up at what would most definately turn into a Patriotic ralley. She was out of place big time.
And I still want to see the rats explain away spitting on the police and booing the little Boy Scouts at their other rallies.
Rats are lower than dirt.
...Riiiiiiiight.
Memorial Service
Benefit Concert
More truth to the term "Useful Idiot" and the 'Rat predilection of rewriting the dictionary, is it not?
looks like even this butt-boy has decided he needed to apologize for his analysis... on all sides, the demodogs must be getting lambasted by even their supporters. hopefully, this seed of the recognition of the evil of the rats will grow and grow and flower in the future... i just hope the flowering is not too late for us.
This spew from the male whore who gave us the phrase "hate radio" is just the braying of a lonely jack@ass...
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I don't know why the demacrats would be upset though. I'm not upset by what happened. It (the memorial/rally ) was just the dems showing their true colors on live television for everyone to see. I call it an answear to my prayers.
I will cheer at that one, and not boo. Hope that makes Joe Conason happy.
Honestly, I hate to hear a grown man WHINE so...
And the rock concert wasn't held less than a week after 9/11 as the Wellstone Memorial was.
As well, it wasn't the policies of the collective Republicans who attended the event that killed Paul Wellstone on 10/25, but it was most definitely Bill Clinton's failed foreign policy and non-existent war on terrorism that was directly related to the horrors of 9/11.
I can't find the article, but the Albany NY flag ( Police Honor Guard) spitting incident was finally attributed to Hillary's rent a mob. The Dems slipped the admission in under the radar during a heavy news day. Plus the media was mostly ignoring the story. The press bought it. Like that somehow makes it OK. I thought it would have been a major news item that the Dems would even admit to using rent a mobs, like we have always known. Hitlery and the Dems are still responsible for this and their lame excuse is still not acceptable.
I'm sure there are many many more instances than this as to how Hitlery and Billy Boy have hurt policemen and our military.....
A Westchester County police officer who was injured while trying to stop New York Senator Hillary Clinton's van after it blew past an airport security checkpoint 16 days ago [October 15, 2001] has yet to receive an apology from her or anyone on her staff.
"I can tell you, no," Officer Ernest Dymond told NewsMax.com Tuesday, when asked whether Mrs. Clinton had contacted him to express any concern over the injury that has rendered him unable to return to active duty for more than two weeks.
I also realize I'd get a frightened look combined with the usual liberal blank stare...........
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Conason must still believe he's going to be Ambassador to Cuba if Hillary becomes president. |
BINGO! I knew sooner or later some liberal press geek would bring this up. The memorial service was a Democratic event! That's the key difference.
That was a concert, Conason, not a somber memorial service. Standard Dem trick of attempting to draw moral equivalance.
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