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Boston Globe | 11-1-02 | Mia T

Posted on 11/01/2002 5:25:32 AM PST by Mia T


YOO-HOO Mrs. clinton:


...Hillary Rodham Clinton, a New York Democrat, told the crowd that years ago the ambitions of women who wanted to vote or run for public office were described as ''unbecoming.'' Clinton drew roaring applause when she said she found Romney's comments ''unbecoming.''

Camps spar over Romney word choice

Gender issue raised on 'unbecoming'

Stephanie Ebbert and Yvonne Abraham, Globe Staff




 by Mia T

Cotwithstanding the best efforts of hillary clinton, the Senate of the United States, Doris Kearns Goodwin and those 400 other hog-and-bow-tied-save-clinton retrograde-obsessing historiographers, and, of course, Betty Friedan, the rape of Juanita Broaddrick by bill clinton became perhaps the defining issue of his impeachment trial. The rape was quickly if quietly reduced by the House of Representatives--the only impeachment participant that history will view kindly--to the obvious. How can a rapist be a fit president? (How, indeed.)

I revisit this issue in The Real Danger of a Presidential Fake: Post-9/11 Reconsideration of The Placebo President. Nine-eleven has clarified for thoughtful democrats what Juanita Broaddrick, Eileen Wellstone, Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky, Gennifer Flowers and clinton's "ministering to hundreds of troubled young girls"--the wife's euphemism for the ad nauseams--apparently did not: clinton putrescence was not "just about sex."

Even as bill clinton, the person, quickly fades into irrelevancy, 9/11 puts the lasting danger of the clinton presidency into sharp focus; and because the clintons have made it clear that they are not yet through with the trashing of the White House and the deconstructing our democracy, 9/11 renders the clinton rapes more relevant than ever.

Make no mistake. hillary clinton was never, ever some betrayed little wife. Not only was this wife aware of the sexual predation from day one, she aided and abetted the rapes and exploited the victims for decades. That is to say, to gain and maintain power, hillary clinton raped, too...

The clinton rapes, real devastation taken alone, synergistically affected, and ultimately became the metaphor for the depraved clinton presidency itself. Chalk America's first rape up to ignorance. What will America's excuse be if she allows the clintons to violate her again?

BRITISH JOURNALIST: Yes, Clinton Raped a Second Woman

source withheld | 4-3-02 | Doug from Upland

Posted on 4/3/02 10:04 PM Pacific by doug from upland

Coday I spent about 6 hours with a British journalist, now living in the U.S. We were joined for dinner by a mutual friend. The journalist, whose name I am withholding, has impeccable credentials and is in town for about a week on business. No, it is not Ambrose Evans Pritchard.

Both of these gentlemen did extensive research into the criminality of Bill Clinton. They have reviewed many documents from various law enforcement agencies and interviewed many people with first hand knowledge. Yes, it is as bad as we always have said it was.

Over dinner, I had the opportunity to grill my source and relive many of the Clinton moments. He was amazed when I brought up things he'd forgotten.

Mr. Source was very candid, and I wanted to share with you the biggest bombshell of the evening.

On this forum and at the FReeper Victory Brunch last year, I charged that Clinton raped another woman in addition to Juanita Broaddrick (and how many others, we wonder -- can you say Eileen Wellstone?). It happened during his first term as governor and the woman was treated at the hospital after being smashed in the face. Mr. Source confirmed what I had learned from another source. He interviewed a nurse who was at the hospital at the time. The woman said that the perpetrator, who hit and raped her, was none other than the Governor of Arkansas, William Jefferson Clinton. The doctor involved was scared to death and would not go on the record and be interviewed.

America, particularly you RATS, are you so afraid to face the truth? Do you feel it would make you look foolish? Would it erode the strength of the RAT party if everyone know they protected a rapist?

I guess those are silly questions. DemocRATS have no shame. It didn't matter that Clinton severely damaged our security, treated the White House like a whore house, committed perjury many times, and actually raped women. He's their guy and it is easier to blame those who brought the crimes to light than blame the criminal. Facing the truth would do too much damage. What disgusting lowlifes. All of them.

Oh, yes, I should not leave this out. Vince Foster did not kill himself in that park. Clinton personally knows the man who killed Jerry Parks. Clinton really was treated for a severe nose problem because of cocaine use. There really was a security tape showing Clinton going into Gennifer Flowers' apartment with his own key. Her audio tapes, in which he instructed her to lie, were not doctored. And my source outed David Brock on a radio show.

TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; US: New York
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Another Doug-From-Upland Scoop:


The rape took place while Bill was running for governor. Hillary came bursting into the room to talk to two people, one of whom I personally know. She said "You won't believe what this &^%$#@#$%^ did now. He tried to rape some b*tch."

It was the job of these two to squelch the story.

doug from upland to Shaun Hannity, WABC, 10/16/00

You had questioned the gentleman who drove you and Mr. Clinton from the airport. You asked him about me and if I would be at the gathering. Do you remember? You told the driver, "Bill has talked so much about Juanita", and that you were so anxious to meet me. Well, you wasted no time. As soon as you entered the room, you came directly to me and grabbed my hand. Do you remember how you thanked me, saying "we want to thank you for everything that you do for Bill". At that point, I was pretty shaken and started to walk off. Remember how you kept a tight grip on my hand and drew closer to me? You repeated your statement, but this time with a coldness and look that I have seen many times on television in the last eight years. You said, "Everything you do for Bill". You then released your grip and I said nothing and left the gathering.

What did you mean, Hillary? Were you referring to my keeping quiet about the assault I had suffered at the hands of your husband only two weeks before? Were you warning me to continue to keep quiet? We both know the answer to that question.



"I believed that he had done it. I believed her that she had been raped 20 years ago. And it was vicious rapes, it was twice at the same event." Asked point blank if the president is a rapist, Shays said, "I would like not to say that it way. But the bottom line is that I believe that he did rape Broaddrick."

Shays Shocker: Clinton Raped Broaddrick Twice

It's no longer acceptable to say that the abuse and mistreatment of women is cultural. It should be called what it is: criminal."

-- Hillary Rodham Clinton, addressing the UN, 3.4.99  

As we've learned from the Juanita Broaddrick story (non-story, I should say) and countless others, the Clintons will do their best Muhammad Ali impression and play rope-a-dope one more time. Like they said - they've got to "get back to the business of the American people." You know - degrading the military, censoring the Internet, and bombing other countries. There's no time to deal with rape allegations or small details like a contempt charge.

---No Person is Above the Law

"Who is Juanita Broaddrick? I've never heard of her!" cried Betty Friedan, the founder of modern feminism. Friedan's outburst came at last Fridayís conference, entitled "The Legacy and Future of Hillary Rodham Clinton." Held at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington. D.C., the event offered a chilling microcosm of an angry, divided America.

For nearly an hour, a five-woman panel had been debating whether Hillary qualified as a "feminist heroine." I thought Broaddrick's claim of having been raped by Hillary's husband had some bearing on this point, so I broached the subject during the question-and-answer period. Friedan's dyspeptic denial followed.

Was Friedan telling the truth? Maybe. And maybe all those millions of Germans who professed ignorance of the death camps were telling the truth too. The problem is, having admitted her ignorance, Friedan showed no interest in exploring the matter further. And that was the problem with the Germans too.

Totalitarian impulses flourished at the conference. Taking a page from Soviet psychiatry, some Clintonites suggested that Hillary hating might be a mental illness. . .

---Richard Poe, The Hillary Conspiracy

The clinton Rapes: Credit where credit is due...

Even hillary hagiographer, Gail Sheehy, concedes that hillary clinton deserves no less than half of the credit for the clinton rapes:

She made the money, she laid out the political strategy. She fought his political enemies for him. She gave him a beautiful child. She was an excellent mother. What more could you want in a political wife? So these other little escapades on the side were just, you know, white noise.


Historically, hillary clinton has always been a co-equal partner in clintoncrime.

Specifically, hillary clinton raped, too. For two decades, for power, for all intents and purposes, hillary clinton both provided and pinned her husband's prey as he raped them, again and again.


In a novel twist of logic and reality during the First Rapist's impeachment trial, the co-rapist portrayed the endless string of clinton rapes as significant clinton public policy, euphemistically dubbing chronic clinton predation "ministering to troubled young girls."

Mia T, First Rapist's Rose-Garden Escape: The Full Story

Arkansas nursing home operator Juanita Broaddrick told impeachment investigators she was raped not once but twice by Bill Clinton during a brutal attack in a Little Rock hotel room 22 years ago, Connecticut Congressman Christopher Shays revealed Wednesday...

Shays Reveals Details of Clinton's 'Horrific' Broaddrick Rape

Bill Clinton may not be the worst president America has had, but surely he is the worst person to be president. There is reason to believe that he is a rapist ("You better get some ice on that," Juanita Broaddrick says he told her concerning her bit lip), and that he bombed a country to distract attention from legal difficulties arising from his glandular life, and that. ... Furthermore, the bargain that he and his wife call a marriage refutes the axiom that opposites attract. Rather, she, as much as he, perhaps even more so, incarnates Clintonism

---GEORGE WILL, Sleaze, the sequel



by Mia T


It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope.

We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth,

and listen to the song of that siren

till she transforms us into beasts.

Is this the part of wise men,

engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty?

Are we disposed to be the number of those

who, having eyes, see not,

and having ears, hear not,

the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation?

For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost,

I am willing to know the whole truth;

to know the worst, and to provide for it.

-----------------Patrick Henry


In a dark time, the eye begins to see.

----------------- Theodore Roethke




1 posted on 11/01/2002 5:25:32 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Gail Wynand; looscannon; Lonesome in Massachussets; Freedom'sWorthIt; IVote2; Slyfox; Registered; ..
Q ERTY3 zipper-hoisted PING!



Rep. John Kasich of Ohio told an interviewer that he hadn't paid attention to the charges.

Sen. James Jeffords asserted on Vermont radio that rape was "a private matter."

Democrats, who stood to look like criminal enablers in the wake of their partisan impeachment defense, remained mute...

Senator Daniel Akaka of Hawaii told the weekly that "I've heard smatterings about the charges," but "I really haven't paid attention" to them.

Senator Joe Biden of Delaware said, "I guess Starr didn't think she was (credible) . . .I tend to be guided by Starr's judgment."

Senator John Breaux of Louisianna offered only "I have no comment.

Senator John Chafee of Rhode Island confessed that "I just haven't paid attention to it. There are certain things I just shut out."

Senator Peter Fitzgerald of Illinois said, "I don't see it as anything that is relevant at this moment to my job in the United States Senate.

Senator Charles Schumer of New York said, "I haven't looked at that . I'm working on Social Security and Health care."

Senator Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia said, "I'm beyond that, we've been through that."

Senator Ted Kennedy was asked about Broaddrick's charges while on a Washington escalator. Kennedy "made no verbal response..."



REASON Magazine* May, 1999

--a senator to Henry Hyde
It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope.
We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth,
and listen to the song of that siren
till she transforms us into beasts.
Is this the part of wise men,
engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty?
Are we disposed to be the number of those
who, having eyes, see not,
and having ears, hear not,
the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation?
For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost,
I am willing to know the whole truth;
to know the worst, and to provide for it.
-----------------Patrick Henry
In a dark time, the eye begins to see.
----------------- Theodore Roethke
But even as Clinton fails to grasp the scandal's metabolism
he understands all too well its most significant byproduct.
You can see it in his eyes.
Once reflecting a Machiavellian confidence,
they now dart back and forth reflexively,
searching futilely for approval,
attempting desperately to dispel his own certain knowledge
that his moral authority is gone. . .
----------------- Mia T


Thou art arm'd that hath thy crook'd schemers straight.

Cudgel thy brains no more, the clinton plots are great.

Mia T, On Neutered and Neutering,

by Mia T and Edward Zehr (EZ)




it won't s-p-i-n



Q ERTY2 "There isn't a shred of evidence."



HILLARY, YOU KNOW, KnowNothing Victim Q ERTY4 double bagel,


W I D E B O D Y. low-center-of-gravity Dim Bulb, Congenital Bottom Feeder





Q ERTY3 zipper-hoisted


(clinton zipper vitiated by obvious spilth)
Humpty Dummies

Q ERTY6 utter failure


Helen Thomas Syndrome: THE SYMPTOMS


4th-Estate Malfeasance (DEATH BY MISREPORT)



rodham-clinton reality-check BUMP!


2 posted on 11/01/2002 5:26:52 AM PST by Mia T
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To: All

the RAPIST clintons are UNBECOMING...





rodham clinton REALITY CHECK






by Mia T

Not Joe Klein's Primary Colors. And not Jack Stanton.
bill clinton is straight out of
Stanley Kubrick's A CLOCKWORK ORANGE.
clinton is Alex,
one of the few truly amoral characters in either film or literature;
not quite as Kubrick (or Burgess) had imagined him, however,
but rumpled, wrinkled, paunchy, edematous,
stripped of the youth-excuse
after 30 additional, pathetic, recidivistic years
of marauding, stomping, raping, gangbanging, deceiving and destroying.
Like A CLOCKWORK ORANGE, the story of bill clinton
is the story about a society that has lost its capacity for moral choice.
But unlike in the less fabulous and no more ironic fable,
clinton is not mere nascent symbol but nihilistic agent.
clinton, like Alex, is the leader of the gang, the "droogies."
Eerily prefigured by the rocking, crooked phallus,
clinton's a conscienceless sadist
who thrills at risk and gratuitous destruction,
whose sexual and non-sexual impotence
is at the root of his obsession with "the old inout."
When Alex kills a woman during a rape, Alex is sent to prison.
When clinton rapes women, girls, his country and God knows what else. . .
and kills? --- check out those fourscore-plus deaths, please!
And don't forget the wag-the-dog, desperately-seeking-a-legacy bombings,
or the cold-blooded Ricky Ray Rector execution---
not clinton but society is imprisoned,
imprisoned in clinton's
besmirched, semen-stained, feckless presidency.
A risible and repulsive result;
yet not even the punch line.
While Alex is conditioned in prison with aversion therapy,
transmuted into a moral robot who becomes nauseated
by the mere thought of sex and violence,
bill clinton and his Thought Police,
in a perverse reverse aversion,
have conditioned society's collective brain
into not mere acquiescence but twisted admiration.
In the end,
if clinton's arrogant, ruthless, reckless nature is restored to him,
it seems the joke will be on all of us,
for it will be a victory for infinite victimhood and irresponsibility,
for seduction, for violence, for nihilism, for anarchy.
We will have set apart clinton as the hero
by making his victims less human than he;
we will have allowed clinton to carefully estrange us from his victims
so that we can enjoy the rapes and the beatings
as much as clinton himself does.


3 posted on 11/01/2002 5:32:56 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T
Locator ^... got to run, back ASAP-
4 posted on 11/01/2002 5:34:02 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Mia T
Clintons'capers chronicled in the new media; with defining new media artwork. Thanks Mia. V's wife
5 posted on 11/01/2002 5:34:21 AM PST by ventana
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To: Mia T
Oh, yes, I should not leave this out. Vince Foster did not kill himself in that park.

I met someone that was involved in investigating the Vince Foster case. They said Foster killed himself. I believe this person.

7 posted on 11/01/2002 5:42:33 AM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: Mia T
"lest we forget" bump
8 posted on 11/01/2002 5:44:45 AM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: Mia T
Fantastic post, Mia. Just this morning on Fox & Friends, there was a discussion about another Clinton affair. I just caught a few moments of the report (and subsequently didn't catch a name), but I suspect something new is brewing.

p.s. may he burn in he11.
9 posted on 11/01/2002 5:44:48 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Mia T
Wouldn't you think the wannabe marine, Ms. Hitlery, would know the term, CONDUCT UNBECOMING........
10 posted on 11/01/2002 5:46:42 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: doug from upland

The Real Danger of a Presidential Fake:
Post-9/11 Reconsideration of The Placebo President
by Mia T, 1.06.02
 In May, 1996, American diplomats were informed in a Sudanese government fax that Bin Laden was about to be expelled -- giving Washington another chance to seize him. The decision not to do so went to the very top of the White House, according to former administration sources.

They say that the clear focus of American policy was to discourage the state sponsorship of terrorism. So persuading Khartoum to expel Bin Laden was in itself counted as a clear victory. The administration was "delighted".

Bin Laden took off from Khartoum on May 18 in a chartered C-130 plane with 150 of his followers, including his wives. He was bound for Jalalabad in eastern Afghanistan. On the way the plane refuelled in the Gulf state of Qatar, which has friendly relations with Washington, but he was allowed to proceed unhindered.

Barely a month later, on June 25, a 5,000lb truck bomb ripped apart the front of Khobar Towers, a US military housing complex in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. The explosion killed 19 American servicemen. Bin Laden was immediately suspected...

US missed three chances to seize Bin Laden

Just look around this chamber. We have members from virtually every racial, ethnic, and religious background. And America is stronger for it. But as we have seen, these differences all too often spark hatred and division, even here at home. . . This is not the American way. We must draw the line. Without delay, we must pass the Hate Crimes Prevention Act and the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. And we should reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act.

bill clinton, State of Union Speech, January 27, 2000

"I'm sorry, but the president is one of the crudest men I have ever encountered in government service," says one female agent. "He has no respect for women."

Among the comments clinton made in presence of Secret Service agents:

. Frequent speculation on the oral sex skills of women
the president saw or met in receiving lines;

. References to the size of a woman's breasts, legs or figure;

. Sexual jokes.

After the Monica Lewinsky story broke, however, clinton toned down his rhetoric and behavior in front of his Secret Service agents, but those who guarded the president say enough of them saw and heard things which could be damaging to clinton.

"It depends on who Ken Starr calls," says one ex-agent. "The people who are on the job today are not necessarily the ones who know the most."

Turnover In clinton's Secret Service Detail 'Highest That Anyone Can Remember'

In the months that follow, reporters drop the issue. Feminists say little or nothing. Rape crisis center workers acknowledge that Broaddrick's case, including her reluctance to come forward, is typical of victims of sexual assault. But they decline to speak against clinton. Some cite the federal funding they receive as a result of the Violence Against Women Act, which was signed into law by clinton.

Why does the press continue to ignore the Juanita Broaddrick story?

The Placebo President:
How a Rapist can be a Policy Feminist
placebo effect n.
A beneficial effect in a patient following a particular treatment
that arises from the patient's expectations concerning
the treatment rather than from the treatment itself.
Every woman adores a Fascist,
The boot in the face, the brute
Brute heart of a brute like you.
----Sylvia Plath
The placebo effect immediately came to mind
as I listened to Shelby Steele,
a research fellow at the Hoover Institution,
debunk the following pernicious spin intended to save clinton.
To wit:
A proven felon and utter reprobate can remain president;
clinton can be a failed human being but a good president.
The error in these statements arises, says Steele,
from the belief that
virtuousness is separate from personal responsibility
so that one's virtuousness as an individual is determined by
one's political positions on issues rather than on
whether or not in one's personal life there is a
consistency and a responsibility.
Steele's contention is that this compartmentalization,
rather than being the amazing advantage
the clintons would have us believe,
in fact, spills toxicity into, corrupts, the culture.
If mere identification with good policies is what makes one virtuous
then those policies become, what Steele calls, iconographic,
that is to say they just represent virtuousness.
They don't necessarily do virtuous things.
If clinton's semantic parsing strips meaning from our words,
clinton's iconographic policies strip meaning from our society,
systematically deconstructing our society as a democracy. . .
I would take Shelby Steele's thesis one step further.
I maintain that iconographic policy functions like a placebo,
producing a real, physiological and social effects.
The placebo effect is, after all, the brain's triumph over reality.
Expectation alone can produce powerful physiological results.
The placebo effect was, at one time, an evolutionary advantage:
act now, think later
bill clinton is the paradigmatic Placebo President.
Placebo is Latin for "I shall please."
And please he does
doling out sham treatments, iconographs, with abandon.
To please, to placate, to numb, to deflect.
Ultimately to showcase his imagined virtue.
Or to confute his genuine vice.
clinton will dispense sugar pills (or bombs)
at the drop of a high-heeled shoe...
or at the hint of high treason...
clinton's charlatanry mimics that of primitive medicine.
Through the 1940s, doctors had little effective medicine to offer
so they deliberately attempted to induce the placebo response.
The efficaciousness of today's medicines
does not diminish the power of the placebo.
A recent review of placebo-controlled studies
found that placebos and genuine treatments
are often equally effective.
If you expect to get better, you will.
Which brings me back to the original question:
Can clinton be a failed human being but a good president?
Clearly he cannot.
These two propositions are mutually exclusive.
clinton's fundamental failure is a complete lack of integrity.
He has violated his covenant with the American people.
Because clinton has destroyed his moral authority as a leader,
he can no longer function even as a quack;
the placebo effect is gone.
And so the Placebo President must now go, too.

September 11 changed a lot of things for me, Bill. I will say this, before September 11, I was definitely mildly myopic in terms of my political agenda. If you were Democrat you were probably right, and if you were a Republican you were probably wrong. Everything changed for me that day...

My entire worldview changed. If you would have told me September 9 that I would have been at the world series game filming George Bush throwing out the first pitch with my 6-year-old son crying, I never would have believed you, but I was. Because my whole worldview changed.


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To: Quilla
Just this morning on Fox & Friends, there was a discussion about another Clinton affair

From today's Page Six column

THE marital split between Matthew Bronfman and Lisa Belzberg is on the mend. The couple, who have six children, separated last winter even as rumors abounded that Belzberg had become pals with Bill Clinton. Soon after, the blond and buxom Belzberg dated "West Wing" creator Aaron Sorkin. Bronfman, a Seagram heir, found companionship with a woman in the fashion business. "She's out of the picture," said one insider. "She's banned from his office." Both parties are unattached now - except to each other. Husband and wife were seen recently dining at Nosidam, and at the bar of the Four Seasons hotel. Since they were never legally separated, they can quietly resume being married.

12 posted on 11/01/2002 5:49:32 AM PST by Cincinatus
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To: Mia T
Another beautiful thread Mia....Thanks for the Memories!
13 posted on 11/01/2002 5:50:40 AM PST by KLT
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To: Mia T
Good morning Mia.

Thanks for the ping...

Bttt so I can find this to read over the weekend.
14 posted on 11/01/2002 5:53:42 AM PST by firewalk
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To: Mia T
Back to the top!
15 posted on 11/01/2002 5:54:02 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Cincinatus

Guess which is Lisa Belzberg?
16 posted on 11/01/2002 6:08:03 AM PST by bvw
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To: Fred Mertz; All
Q ERTY3 bump!

17 posted on 11/01/2002 6:08:10 AM PST by Mia T
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To: BeforeISleep
While there are concerns about the climate, wars, etc. I believe that an even larger problem exist that endangers this planet.

The unending smell that comes from the klintons. There seems to be no end in sight for relief. Each day a new sorid deed becomes known.

History will have a lot to say about this trying time concerning the morally bankrupt klintons, and I'm sure it will not be very nice.

Until that time we all will just have to shake our heads and listen to the mindless robots who will support them no matter what them do or say.

So sad, but true.

18 posted on 11/01/2002 6:08:37 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: Mia T
Thanks Mia T.
19 posted on 11/01/2002 6:10:25 AM PST by PGalt
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To: bvw
Definitely Bubba's type, all right. A step up from Denise Rich, I would think.
20 posted on 11/01/2002 6:17:24 AM PST by Cincinatus
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