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Travis GOP reports problems at poll ('rats commit ballot fraud in early voting)
Austin American Statesman ^ | Friday, November 1, 2002 | Jonathan Osborne

Posted on 11/01/2002 3:24:15 PM PST by GOPcapitalist

Officials with the Travis County Republican Party say there's something rotten at the early voting polls this year. And they say they've got affidavits to prove it.

Alan Sager, chairman of the party, said that at least twice while demonstrating the new eSlate voting system, election clerks turned the dial so that it stopped on a ballot for a straight-Democratic vote.

"We've had five or eight different people say that Democratic clerks showed them how to run the system and vote straight Democrat," Sager said Thursday.

In one instance, Sager said, two people who wanted to vote for a Republican candidate were instructed during the demonstration to cast the ballot for the straight Democratic ticket and unwittingly did.

According to affidavits, relatives of the two voters were not allowed to assist the pair during the incident at H-E-B at 7th Street and Pleasant Valley Road. Sager said he will give their testimony to the Travis County district attorney today.

Travis County Clerk Dana DeBeauvoir, a Democrat, said she had not seen the affidavits but said her office investigates any irregularity reported to them.

"Even if I get a vague rumor over the telephone, we do take it seriously," DeBeauvoir said. "Every time Alan has told me some vague rumor, I send out a notice to all locations."

DeBeauvoir said she's done that at least twice since early voting began.

But she said she was aware of at least one problem Sager referred to Thursday and had taken immediate corrective action.

At the Randall's grocery store in Lakeway, the election judge had failed to set up a demonstration of the eSlate system.

Marc and Beverly McCord went to cast their ballots at the store earlier this week. They say the judge reached into their booth, operated the system for them and turned the dial to a straight Democratic ticket.

After Marc McCord made a mistake, the judge came over and "reached in again and dialed up the straight Democratic ticket again and said, 'Now hit enter,' " McCord said. "He sat there and watched while I dialed up my votes. I found out in comparing with my wife that he had done the same thing for her."

DeBeauvoir said the judge has since been told that's not how things are supposed to operate and he's corrected his procedures.

"We have since talked with that judge and said, 'What were you thinking?' " DeBeauvoir said. "We have since instructed him, 'Do not go in the booth with the voters.' He insists he never told anybody which party to vote."

The irony, DeBeauvoir said, is that the judge happens to be a Republican.

josborne@statesman.com; 445-3621

To report fraud

The U.S. attorney's office and the FBI are asking that any allegations of fraud on Election Day, including voter bribery, voter intimidation and ballot forgery, be reported directly to either agency.

To report a violation, the public can call the FBI 24 hours a day at (210) 225-6741. During business hours, they can contact the U.S. attorney's Austin office at 916-5858.


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I seriously doubt the election clerk in that last incident was a Republican. Contrary to the implications of this article, Texas does NOT register voters by political party. And even if they did, why would a republican direct not one but two GOP voters to punch straight ticket 'rat and turn the dial to the D straight ticket selection for them?
1 posted on 11/01/2002 3:24:15 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
No way was that judge a Pubbie. Give me a break you lying rat!
This election and all elections from now on are going to be fiascos thanks to Gore and his attempted coup in Florida. The rats learned just how much they can get away with in the open as opposed to NOP of fraud behind closed doors.
2 posted on 11/01/2002 3:28:48 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: GOPcapitalist
I'm still reeling from the shock of discovering that there are any Republicans in Travis County at all...
3 posted on 11/01/2002 3:29:32 PM PST by Own Drummer
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To: GOPcapitalist
I am dead set against any kind of electronic balloting.
4 posted on 11/01/2002 3:36:57 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: ladyinred
Go get em as you speak the truth. It will never be the same again after what Al Gore did to this nation That little commie rat! The democrats have gotton away with stealing elections for too long now but they will not get away with it this year!
5 posted on 11/01/2002 3:43:04 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: GOPcapitalist
Straight party voting in one action should not be legal. All and all I am afraid that this election is going to be nothing more than one giant fraud. It will not even reflect who the people wanted to vote for. There are more voter scam frauds out there than you could begin to count. And our system has been deliberately altered to allow it.
6 posted on 11/01/2002 3:47:24 PM PST by Revel
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To: Own Drummer
"I'm still reeling from the shock of discovering that there are any Republicans in Travis County at all..."

Travis County was carried by GW in 2000, thanks to all the Greens who voted for Nader1
7 posted on 11/01/2002 3:48:35 PM PST by SwinneySwitch
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To: GOPcapitalist
Okay, you want to file a complaint? Just set the dial to the complaint icon which looks like a donkey and push the 'Done' button.
8 posted on 11/01/2002 3:49:05 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: GOPcapitalist
I hope Republicans have their own lawyers ready to fight all this fraud.
9 posted on 11/01/2002 3:52:29 PM PST by dalebert
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To: GOPcapitalist
I find it hard to believe a voting machine has a dial that can select a straight party-line ticket.
10 posted on 11/01/2002 3:56:42 PM PST by mlo
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To: GOPcapitalist

11 posted on 11/01/2002 4:00:34 PM PST by mlo
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To: GOPcapitalist
"The irony, DeBeauvoir said, is that the judge happens to be a Republican."

Naw, a graduate seminar caller who also went to the Dimocrat Vote Fraud Seminar.

12 posted on 11/01/2002 4:00:45 PM PST by holyscroller
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To: Own Drummer
Cheer up!

Got one THC (Travis Heights Crew) Republican here!

I know of 3 others!

We all voted early at the Oltorf HEB. Everything seemed to be run well at that location, at that time. However their surely were a number of rats scurrying about.

Leave it to the genius Guilty White Liberals over Lakeway to screw it up. ;)

Let the THC flame war begin!
13 posted on 11/01/2002 4:03:57 PM PST by jrawk
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To: Revel
Straight party voting in one action should not be legal.

You should see the ballot in my county. I'll bet there were at least 20 races where the Republican had NO opponent.

I didn't vote straight party ONLY because I like to enjoy the feeling of voting for each and every one of them. But it certainly would have saved me a bunch of time.

14 posted on 11/01/2002 4:05:37 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: GOPcapitalist
Note that the election "judge" is nameless so nobody can independently check on the RAT's claim that he's a Pubbie.
15 posted on 11/01/2002 4:06:17 PM PST by steveegg
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To: jrawk
Did you use this eSlate machine?
16 posted on 11/01/2002 4:07:38 PM PST by mlo
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To: Revel
We've been trying to get rid of straight ticket voting in Texas for a while. There was a bill to do it in the last session that I worked for heavily. Banning straight ticket voting is part of the GOP platform, but the bill was actually sponsored by a rural semi-conservative Democrat.

Unfortunately the radical wing of the 'rat party has a stranglehold on the Elections Committee in the House (hopefully that will change thanks to redistricting). It's been run with an iron fist for years by 'rat state rep. Debra Danburg. Danburg is often called the most liberal member of the Texas legislature, so you can guess exactly how far the bill got.

Add the committee membership in and you get an even better picture. There are 3 republicans and 6 or 7 'rats on the committee. Among the 'rats are one of the Dem caucus leaders who is constantly suing the state for "discrimination" via MALDEF et al whenever something doesn't go his way in the legislature. Another is a black democrat Sheila Jackson Lee Jr. named Terry Hodge from Dallas. She screams "intimidation" every time somebody proposes to do something that would get dead people off the voter roles. Another black democrat on the committee has offered pro bono legal representation to Nation of Islam thugs and Quannel X's neo-black panthers. That's what we're currently up against for electoral reform in Texas thanks to 'rat speaker Pete Laney.

Redistricting should give the GOP a majority in the legislature next year, though it may not be enough to defeat Laney for speaker, meaning the committee would stay the same. A couple of RINO state reps named Delwin Jones and Brian McCall, you see, are expected to vote for Laney no matter who has the majority.

17 posted on 11/01/2002 4:11:11 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: Dog Gone
How's the job situation there? I may be looking for a new domicile come Nov. 6.

Seriously, even though I know the folks that run my poll (helps that my mother is one of them), and I know the machine (optical scan), I still mark each and every race individually.

18 posted on 11/01/2002 4:12:52 PM PST by steveegg
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To: GOPcapitalist
Well, in Wisconsin I voted yesterday morning because I'm working at the polls on election day. Our newly remodeled City Hall offers no place to fill out your ballot in private. The clerk stood right over me and watched me fill in all the little ovals. She knows every vote I cast and even knows that I wrote in a candidate's name instead of voting for one of the printed choices. After she finished watching me, she watched my husband.
19 posted on 11/01/2002 4:13:35 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: steveegg
See # 19.
20 posted on 11/01/2002 4:14:31 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: GOPcapitalist
"After Marc McCord made a mistake, the judge came over and "reached in again and dialed up the straight Democratic ticket again and said, 'Now hit enter,' "

This is the manufacturer's site: http://www.hartintercivic.com/

They have a simple tutorial on how to use the machine. As I suspected, you can't choose an entire party slate. You have to select and hit 'enter' on each race, and you have a chance to review and modify at the end.

21 posted on 11/01/2002 4:14:51 PM PST by mlo
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To: mlo
That doesn't prove that it hasn't been modified for Texas, which I suspect it has.

Straight party voting has long been hated by Republicans in Texas, until politics shifted in the early 90s. Now, there's no question that it's responsible for the fact that we control the state's judiciary.

22 posted on 11/01/2002 4:21:24 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: mlo
And, my suspicion was confirmed. Travis County does indeed offer straight party voting with this machine.

Travis County Sample Ballot

23 posted on 11/01/2002 4:24:27 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Own Drummer
Nah, there are a couple of us.

What I got a kick out of was the sample ballot they used to demo the thing. They used names of celebs and every one of them I recognized was am outspoken flaming liberal.

When I pointed this out to the dullard giving the demo and asked where where the conservatives one of the ladies also watching the demo say 'funny, you don't look like a conservative'.

Only my Texas manners kept me from replying with anything other than I would drag myself over shards of glass to vote for a conservative.

She looked quite shocked, I don't think she'd ever run into one before.

In the People's Republic of Travis diversity is a great thing...as long as it's only cosmetic.
24 posted on 11/01/2002 4:26:50 PM PST by Proud_texan
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To: afraidfortherepublic
VERY interesting (please enter that in the "Understatement of the Year"TM contest). I know there's people out there that have a better memory than me, and not all of those either think like me or would remember not to let that kind of knowledge just sit there never to be acted upon.

You may want to ping the rest of the Wisconsin Anti-Fraud Brigade over to #18.

25 posted on 11/01/2002 4:31:05 PM PST by steveegg
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To: mlo; Dog Gone; jrawk
I voted this week in Tarrant County (TX) and used the eSlate machine. Actually, it's pretty easy to use and it is possible to vote a straight party ticket should you desire to do so. The only trouble I had was figuring out how to get to the Proposition on the ballot. I finally asked for help and a lady helped me figure it out. (She really didn't know either.)

I've seen all the horror stories about fraud at various polling places. I will say that where I vote, I've never seen any evidence of it.

26 posted on 11/01/2002 4:31:55 PM PST by computerjunkie
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To: Own Drummer
I'm still reeling from the shock of discovering that there are any Republicans in Travis County at all...

I am sure Mr. Travis is not pleased with the county named after him. In fact, I doubt there were many pro-hispanic democrats inside the Alamo.

27 posted on 11/01/2002 4:39:39 PM PST by Blue Screen of Death
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To: GOPcapitalist; All
Cros link:

-The Vote Fraud Archives--

And just FYI--

-Need Vote Fraud articles, stories, and evidence? Here's a source--

-Vote... and be D@mned! (vanity, but dead serious)--

28 posted on 11/01/2002 4:39:43 PM PST by backhoe
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To: basil; DrewsDad; TXBubba; austingirl; TheSarce; The Bat Lady
I voted at Barton Creek Square with no trouble......
29 posted on 11/01/2002 4:41:26 PM PST by tarawa
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To: GOPcapitalist
You are so wrong. My registration card was stamped "Republican" during a primary when I asked for the Republican ballot. I have the same card this election with the "Republican" stamped on it.
30 posted on 11/01/2002 4:46:21 PM PST by Alissa
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To: GOPcapitalist
The irony, DeBeauvoir said, is that the judge happens to be a Republican.

They're shifting blame here, aren't they? How would they know that good enough to print it as fact? Democrat divination again?
I wonder how many votes they managed to steal before they were caught.

31 posted on 11/01/2002 4:55:10 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Alissa
They stamp your card IF you vote in the primary (the reason they do it is to provide proof you voted in case you want to attend the precinct convention, and also as a safeguard so you don't switch to the other party in the runoff, which is illegal). But in Texas, there is no official partisan registration on the voter registration form - you can vote in any party primary you want to as long as its the only one. The only record is what primary you last voted in after the fact, plus that little stamp on your card.
32 posted on 11/01/2002 4:55:33 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
One of Algore's biggest Florida corporate supporters was a "Republican" and a "Freeper". Of course he said on his website that no candidate had ever matched his posistions on all of the issues as Algore had. He joined up to FR to defend Algore during the 2000 "recount".

Just because one votes in the Republican primary does not make one a conservative or a "republican". And just because one posts on FR doesn't indicate allegiance either.

33 posted on 11/01/2002 4:57:06 PM PST by weegee
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To: GOPcapitalist
A FReeper has reported similar activity in Houston. Look for an increase in DemoRat "straight ticket" voting.
34 posted on 11/01/2002 4:58:23 PM PST by weegee
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To: Carry_Okie
To me, electronic balloting is entirely too open to the chances for hacking/fraud. I want a paper ballot that can be looked at after the fact if need be.
35 posted on 11/01/2002 5:01:17 PM PST by mathluv
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To: GOPcapitalist
NAACP is getting out the felon vote in Fl. They say it's not their job to stop the ballots if they're invalid. If they're not caught, they're a legal vote.
Fl. has caught 11 so far, but a new report says 16 more yesterday. I'm sure there's lots more. Some will probably get through.
36 posted on 11/01/2002 5:04:22 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Proud_texan
...one of the ladies also watching the demo say 'funny, you don't look like a conservative'.

An appropriate response to her would have been:

"Funny, you don't look prejudiced..."

37 posted on 11/01/2002 5:04:58 PM PST by weegee
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To: mlo
You can't select straight party vote in CA?

Here's the Q&A from the Travis County Election Clerk.

Q: Can you vote a straight party ticket and then make an exception on one or more races?


38 posted on 11/01/2002 5:05:57 PM PST by deport
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Is that legal? I would have told them to let me have some privacy. This seems to be intimidation to me!
39 posted on 11/01/2002 5:06:57 PM PST by mathluv
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To: deport
You can't select straight party vote in CA?

Nope. Guess I learned something new about Texas.

40 posted on 11/01/2002 5:07:46 PM PST by mlo
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To: Alissa
Your voter ID card was stamped as you went to the PRIMARY to avoid permitting you to vote in a PRIMARY RUNOFF election for the other party.

Next year you can cross party lines and vote in the RAT PRIMARY instead of the Republican Primary if you wish.

The registration card for voting does not have a spot for you to check off and identify party.

Lynn Ashby, the former editor for the Houston Post, says that he votes in both parties' primaries on alternate years. That way he gets campaign literature from both sides of the campaigns.

Some Democrats have few enough choices (no candidate or uncontested race) that they vote in the Republican primaries to vote on the judges.

My parents had to do that to have a say in Texas politics for decades.

Some people will cross party lines to vote in the primaries to choose a weaker candidate for their own party.

41 posted on 11/01/2002 5:12:14 PM PST by weegee
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To: mlo
Well I guess FR is teaching both of us something. I guess I've never questioned whether straight party was an option in other states. I just assumed it was. Them darn assumptions... live and learn.
42 posted on 11/01/2002 5:18:11 PM PST by deport
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To: mathluv
Intimidation is when I went to the DMV to renew by driver's license and the officer standing by the line (keeping things orderly) was asking people if they were registered to vote (motot voter was a new thing, this was several of years back).

Some people picked up the forms. The officer joked but patted his holstered gun at the same time and said, "You'd better remeber to register Democrat".

I swear that Democrats are evil and will be the cause of the downfall of this nation.

43 posted on 11/01/2002 5:20:00 PM PST by weegee
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To: Alissa

Yep but you didn't register as Republican. It was stamped to show which primary you voted in.... Everyone starts with a non stamped card for the primary. You'll get a new card toward the end of 03 which will become effective 1/1/04 in time for the primaries of 04. Go Bush Go

44 posted on 11/01/2002 5:26:02 PM PST by deport
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To: GOPcapitalist
In Texas, democrats run as Republicans or they will not be elected. Judges are elected in Texas and the system is full of liars about their political leanings.

If you're a die hard voter like, you check their rulings and background. There is a Judge Harris in Ft. Worth, a republican in name and deed, one of the best human beings on the planet, so I'm taking the opportunity to put in a plug for him.
45 posted on 11/01/2002 5:27:48 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: weegee
Intimidation is when I went to the DMV to renew by driver's license

If you renewed your license in Texas you went to the Departmnet of Public Safety (DPS) not the "DMV".

46 posted on 11/01/2002 5:39:50 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Eastbound
LOL!
47 posted on 11/01/2002 5:51:51 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: dalebert
"I hope Republicans have their own lawyers ready to fight all this fraud"

We have lawyers?

48 posted on 11/01/2002 5:52:44 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Own Drummer
Hey, I am one!!!

We are not all Liberals.

I did the early voting today. The system is easy enough to use, and it was cool to be able to do the straight party Republican vote and see each Republican candidate listed.
On the paper ballots, I know that they could be abused so I always also put in the votes for the GOP candidates as well on the paper ballots. This time it was automatic and easier. Other than voting for all Repbulicans,
I voted for one libertarian running against a Democrat judge. It is a bit creepy that there is nothing but an electronic indication of my vote.
I am worried about the possibility of fraud can increase in this system.
49 posted on 11/01/2002 5:54:30 PM PST by WOSG
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To: Dog Gone
We have something like 140 DIFFERENT ballot styles. Talk about opportunities for fraud! Already it has been discovered that 2 of the candidates are not on some of the ballot styles that are supposed to be so those would have to be write-ins and hand-counted. Then, the first two weeks of early voting was done on paper ballots. The last week was all electronic. I don't know how it will be done on Tuesday. I know when I was working as a poll watcher for early voting, voters were sometimes getting the wrong ballot for their precinct.
50 posted on 11/01/2002 5:57:46 PM PST by sweetliberty
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