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Archbishop Says It's Immoral to Vote for Pro-Choice Candidates
EWTN News ^ | October 29, 2002 | EWTN

Posted on 11/01/2002 4:07:40 PM PST by fatguy

DENVER, Oct 29, 02 (CWNews.com) -- In his second blunt message in as many weeks on the responsibilities of Catholic voters, Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver has insisted the issue of abortion should provide a clear-cut choice.

"I will vote for no candidate Republican, Democrat or third party -- who is actively 'pro-choice,'" the archbishop wrote in his regular weekly column for Denver's archdiocesan newspaper.

Archbishop Chaput dismissed the argument that abortion is only one among many issues to be considered in an election year. He explained: "abortion is separated from other important social issues like affordable housing by a difference in kind, not a difference in degree. Every abortion kills an unborn human life -- every time. No matter what kind of mental gymnastics we use, elective killing has no excuse. We only implicate ourselves by trying to provide one."

In this respect, the archbishop drew a distinction between the abortion issue and other political questions, on which reasonable people might differ. The difference, he said, is that "every abortion is a grave act of violence."

The archbishop repeated his complaint that proponents of legal abortion are seeking to silence Catholics, and others who are opposed to the practice. "The only way to stop this coercion is to send the right men and women to Congress," he said.

Voters cannot remain neutral on the issue, Archbishop Chaput continued. He reasoned: "No violence is ever private. That includes abortion. What we choose to allow, we choose to own."


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KEYWORDS: abortion; catholiclist; chaput
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1 posted on 11/01/2002 4:07:40 PM PST by fatguy
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To: Notwithstanding
Bishops with courage ping
2 posted on 11/01/2002 4:08:57 PM PST by fatguy
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To: fatguy
Every Bishop and Priest needs to repeat this on Sunday, especially in Spanish!
3 posted on 11/01/2002 4:10:41 PM PST by evolved_rage
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To: fatguy
He's got courage. And he's right.

Wanna bet how soon he will be the target of venomous attacks from the pro-babykiller crowd?
4 posted on 11/01/2002 4:11:30 PM PST by petuniasevan
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To: fatguy
The Spirit is moving. Great news!
5 posted on 11/01/2002 4:12:31 PM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: fatguy
Actual title: Denver Archbishop Rejects Pro-Choice Rhetoric
6 posted on 11/01/2002 4:16:27 PM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: fatguy
Quick, give this man a red hat.
7 posted on 11/01/2002 4:18:30 PM PST by pbear8
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To: fatguy
So 65% of Republicans are evil then, I guess? I mean, according to http://www.rym.org, that's the percentage of Republicans that are pro choice. And nearly all Democrats are. That means that according to this bishop, over 4 out of every 5 Americans is evil. Is there something wrong with this picture, perhaps?
8 posted on 11/01/2002 4:19:56 PM PST by End The Hypocrisy
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To: fatguy
It's about time someone in the church starts articulating this. This is going to make a lot of Catholics uneasy - especially in those liberal "coastal" states. Too bad.
9 posted on 11/01/2002 4:20:57 PM PST by caisson71
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Actual title: Denver Archbishop Rejects Pro-Choice Rhetoric

I know, but that's a limp headline that won't draw as many people in.

10 posted on 11/01/2002 4:21:01 PM PST by fatguy
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To: fatguy
Archbishop Chaput is one of the small number of really good bishops. This is especially good to hear coming from Denver, which the Dems need to do well in if they are to win the state.
11 posted on 11/01/2002 4:22:44 PM PST by Cicero
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To: fatguy
God bless people with strength, courage and conviction to defend the disenfranshised of their mother's wombs...
12 posted on 11/01/2002 4:24:04 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: End The Hypocrisy
The 'something wrong with the picture' is the apathy of the majority (both R and D). The poll numbers you quote (and generally all opinion polling) are generated (ususally) by a hyper-simple question...Do you believe in choice? The wording is so benign...But if you explain (via a textbook example) what abortion really is, then you would get a total different response. As for the good Bishop, he is 1000% correct.
13 posted on 11/01/2002 4:26:23 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom
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To: pbear8
Quick, give this man a red hat.

"Red hats" typically go to ordinaries of particular sees. St. Louis has had cardinals in the past (Ritter and Carberry), but Rigali is still purple. Baltimore has also had cardinals, though Borders was passed over.

Denver has never had a cardinal.

Besides, I don't see why anyone would aspire to the cardinalate. Bishops are "ordained," cardinals are "created."

"To create" means to make something out of nothing.

14 posted on 11/01/2002 4:27:49 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: End The Hypocrisy
That means that according to this bishop, over 4 out of every 5 Americans is evil. Is there something wrong with this picture, perhaps?

Do you take a poll when you make ethical decisions?

15 posted on 11/01/2002 4:29:15 PM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: fatguy
I know, but that's a limp headline that won't draw as many people in.

Yes, but, years hence, when the archives of Free Republic are being searched for articles about Charles Chaput in support of his beatification, no one will be able to find yours because you changed the actual title.

16 posted on 11/01/2002 4:30:39 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Whilst what you said about important diocese having cardinals is very true, I still would like to see truth and courage rewarded with an 'enhatment' (and therefore a vote) in this particular situation.
17 posted on 11/01/2002 4:32:29 PM PST by pbear8
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To: End The Hypocrisy
So 65% of Republicans are evil then, I guess? I mean, according to http://www.rym.org, that's the percentage of Republicans that are pro choice. And nearly all Democrats are. That means that according to this bishop, over 4 out of every 5 Americans is evil. Is there something wrong with this picture, perhaps?

1) He didn't say those that vote for pro-choice candidates are necessarily evil, but rather this activity is evil.

2) For the last 30 years all reliable polls have shown that a large majority of the electorate is against abortion on demand. This majority only supports abortion in the so-called "hard cases" -- rape, handicapped fetus, and life of the mother -- which constitute only about 5% of abortions.

3) Evil is common and mundane.

18 posted on 11/01/2002 4:35:19 PM PST by fatguy
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To: End The Hypocrisy
"Is there something wrong with this picture, perhaps?"

The only thing wrong is that it's true. If there were a "moral majority" in the U.S., Bill Clinton would have been run out of town on a rail rather than re-elected.

19 posted on 11/01/2002 4:38:20 PM PST by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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To: fatguy
"I will vote for no candidate Republican, Democrat or third party -- who is actively 'pro-choice,'"

Amen! What a great post! What a great man!

20 posted on 11/01/2002 4:39:04 PM PST by mombonn
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To: Aquinasfan; pbear8
"Rumors rife over Chaput heading Boston diocese"

By Jean Torkelson, Rocky Mountain News

"October 1, 2002Denver Archbishop Charles Chaput's name has again percolated as a possible successor to embattled Cardinal Bernard Law of Boston."

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/religion/article/0,1299,DRMN_61_1451056,00.html"
21 posted on 11/01/2002 4:41:17 PM PST by Diago
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To: fatguy
"I will vote for no candidate Republican, Democrat or third party -- who is actively 'pro-choice,'" the archbishop wrote in his regular weekly column for Denver's archdiocesan newspaper.

BUMP for the archbishop.

22 posted on 11/01/2002 4:41:46 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Goetz_von_Berlichingen
If there were a "moral majority" in the U.S., Bill Clinton would have been run out of town on a rail rather than re-elected.

EXACTLY
23 posted on 11/01/2002 4:46:00 PM PST by uncbob
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To: .45MAN; 07055; 300winmag; 88keys; ACAC; A.J.Armitage; ACross; afraidfortherepublic; alancarp; ...
Pro-life ping
24 posted on 11/01/2002 4:56:30 PM PST by fatguy
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To: MeeknMing
man, maybe Sanchez will lose by a landslide now.. how are the polls, oh great pollwatcher??
25 posted on 11/01/2002 4:59:13 PM PST by TxBec
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To: fatguy
Bishops with courage ping

If clergymen really want to impress me with their courage, they can start admonishing the public to stop going to the polls for purpose of voting themselves money from the treasury (i.e., somebody else's income). I.e., dish out some hellfire and brimstone on politicians that play the class envy game. If churches don't take the commandments against theft and covetousness seriously, then there is no reason to take churches seriously.

26 posted on 11/01/2002 5:03:56 PM PST by snarkpup
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To: fatguy
Ah, a bishop with backbone! Thanks for the ping.
27 posted on 11/01/2002 5:05:31 PM PST by Bigg Red
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To: Diago
"Rumors rife over Chaput heading Boston diocese"

I have to file this under "too good to be true." The Globe would be turning over in its grave if it was dead... and a human being.

28 posted on 11/01/2002 5:05:41 PM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: End The Hypocrisy; Goetz_von_Berlichingen
That means that according to this bishop, over 4 out of every 5 Americans is evil. Is there something wrong with this picture, perhaps?

Yes, I think there is something wrong with that picture because it is entirely too optimistic. The situation is much worse.

29 posted on 11/01/2002 5:06:40 PM PST by Siobhan
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To: Aquinasfan
>>>Do you take a poll when you make ethical decisions?<<<

In a democracy, don't candidates HAVE to?
30 posted on 11/01/2002 5:08:21 PM PST by End The Hypocrisy
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To: fatguy; Diago; sinkspur
Speaking of creating cardinals, the time is upon us when we need the Holy Father to create an American metropolitan or patriarch (and make the USCCB subordinate to him) -- I leave the proper title to those who specialize i n such -- and Chaput would be an excellent "head of the American Church" with the power and authority to clean the Conference of Bishops and to remove and defrock those in purple or red who are as blood guilty as Paul Shanley and the rest of the devil's inside operators.
31 posted on 11/01/2002 5:11:06 PM PST by Siobhan
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To: End The Hypocrisy
I would bet my last dollar 65 % of Republicans are NOT pro-choice.

He reasoned: "No violence is ever private....

32 posted on 11/01/2002 5:11:58 PM PST by JZoback
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To: fatguy
Thanks for the post fatguy. I need to pray again that the Lord will end this evil.
33 posted on 11/01/2002 5:12:15 PM PST by Lady Eileen
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To: sinkspur
Bishop Chaput's beatification...ah, now there's an awesome thought! He really *is* one of the good ones!
34 posted on 11/01/2002 5:16:36 PM PST by BizzeeMom
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To: fatguy; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; TrueBeliever9; Prodigal Daughter; Zadokite; babylonian; ...
Thanks for the ping ...and now a Ping to my prolife list..It is time that we worry more about babies and less about politics..
35 posted on 11/01/2002 5:17:40 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: BizzeeMom
oops, should have said Archbishop!
36 posted on 11/01/2002 5:18:48 PM PST by BizzeeMom
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To: End The Hypocrisy
The majority of Americans support restrictions on abortion. That's hardly pro-choice.
37 posted on 11/01/2002 5:19:37 PM PST by AppyPappy
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To: fatguy
"I will vote for no candidate Republican, Democrat or third party -- who is actively 'pro-choice,'" the archbishop wrote in his regular weekly column for Denver's archdiocesan newspaper.

Archbishop Chaput dismissed the argument that abortion is only one among many issues to be considered in an election year. He explained: "abortion is separated from other important social issues like affordable housing by a difference in kind, not a difference in degree. Every abortion kills an unborn human life -- every time. No matter what kind of mental gymnastics we use, elective killing has no excuse. We only implicate ourselves by trying to provide one."

EXCELLENT NOW I HAVE AMMO TO USE IN ARGUMENTS WITH LEFTISTS
38 posted on 11/01/2002 5:23:10 PM PST by buffyt
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To: fatguy
Pro-life, Catholic, Anti-Federalist Democrat BUMP!
39 posted on 11/01/2002 5:23:44 PM PST by James R. McClure Jr.
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To: End The Hypocrisy
In a democracy, don't candidates HAVE to?

I suppose. Fortunately, we don't live in a democracy. We live in a Republic, where representatives are elected to make decisions based upon principles rather than upon "popular opinion".

40 posted on 11/01/2002 5:24:28 PM PST by MWS
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To: End The Hypocrisy
Actually, no.

First of all, we are a Constitutional Republic which utilizes representative democracy.

This is extremely different from the 'mob rule' of a pure democracy which can tyrannically denie the rights of the 'minority'.

A pure democracy is defined best as 3 wolves (pro abortion) and 1 sheep (pro life) setting down to vote "what's for dinner".
41 posted on 11/01/2002 5:24:48 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: MWS
"Like minds post similar statements at the same time BUMP!"
42 posted on 11/01/2002 5:26:26 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: fatguy
Wow! Strong and courageous.
43 posted on 11/01/2002 5:28:05 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: fatguy
What would be the effect if all the American bishops made similar statements this weekend?
44 posted on 11/01/2002 5:30:05 PM PST by fatguy
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To: fatguy
30 years late but better than never...
45 posted on 11/01/2002 5:33:59 PM PST by kellynla
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To: Siobhan
Speaking of creating cardinals, the time is upon us when we need the Holy Father to create an American metropolitan or patriarch (and make the USCCB subordinate to him.

No bishop is subject to another bishop, except to the Holy Father himself. There are metropolitans in place already; they're called archbishops. They cannot, however, subjugate any bishop within their province to themselves.

The Pope is a firm believer in collegiality and would never humiliate an episcopal conference. There is no such thing as a "mini-Pope."

With all due respect.

46 posted on 11/01/2002 5:36:27 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: fatguy
BTW at the rate these guys are going maybe by the end millennium they will think about getting rid of the sexual deviats in the priesthood...Signed, a Cradle Catholic
47 posted on 11/01/2002 5:37:43 PM PST by kellynla
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To: kellynla
deviats = deviants (wish we had spell check) LOL
48 posted on 11/01/2002 5:39:48 PM PST by kellynla
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To: End The Hypocrisy
That picture seems to be sadly accurate.
49 posted on 11/01/2002 5:40:57 PM PST by Ann Archy
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To: fatguy
What would be the effect if all the American bishops made similar statements this weekend?

Well, for openers, the LeftPressMonopoly would go absolutely bonkers--more than over the homosexual predator-priest story.

Then the IRS would move to lift the tax exemption of the Church.

Then a bunch of "Catholics" would leave the church.

All in all, it would be a very good thing.

50 posted on 11/01/2002 5:41:35 PM PST by ninenot
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