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Different Face for Cover of Popular Mechanics - Jesus!
The New York Times ^ | November 4, 2002 | David Carr

Posted on 11/05/2002 2:05:43 AM PST by Timesink

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November 4, 2002

Different Face for Cover of Popular Mechanics

By DAVID CARR

In the universe of male subjects for magazine covers, there are only a few sure things. Ben Affleck is a winner, and George Clooney is always a good bet to do well on the newsstand. But few can anchor a magazine like Jesus, a cover subject who brings them back year after year, particularly for news magazines like Time, Newsweek and U.S. News & World Report.

Now the appeal of Jesus has found a surprisingly new home — the cover of Popular Mechanics.

The December issue of Popular Mechanics, which is owned by the Hearst Corporation and is scheduled to be on newsstands next week, features on the front a shadowy figure looming behind a headline that promises, "The Real Face of Jesus." Inside, there is a conjured figure with dark skin, a bushy beard and curly hair. Using the tools of forensic anthropology, scientists in the accompanying article concluded that the historical depiction of Jesus as a white man with flowing locks was inaccurate.

"If you look at the history of the magazine, we have been explaining how the world works for 100 years," said Joe Oldham, editor in chief of Popular Mechanics, who came up with the idea for the article. "Our story demonstrated advances in the field of forensic anthropology."

Popular Mechanics and its scientific collaborators overlaid biblical descriptions and computerized tomography, a type of X-ray photography, on a Semite skull from the historical era of Jesus to make informed guesses about how he looked. One of the more surprising findings suggested that Jesus was a small man, 5 foot 1, and weighed about 110 pounds.

While it might be odd for a magazine that features terrorist-hunting robots to turn to Jesus, Mr. Oldham defends the choice. "I knew that Jesus had been successful for other magazines," he said. "I know a bandwagon when I see one, and as long as our approach fit our editorial mission, I was happy to get on it."  


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: jesus; jesussells; popularmechanics; powertools; woodworking
Whether He gives any woodworking tips, I have no idea.
1 posted on 11/05/2002 2:05:43 AM PST by Timesink
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To: Timesink
Entirely appropriate, considering how many times his name has been uttered by people attempting to complete the projects published in this magazine.
2 posted on 11/05/2002 2:11:52 AM PST by Cincinatus
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To: Cincinatus
good one
3 posted on 11/05/2002 2:27:13 AM PST by freedom9
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To: Timesink
No doubt this will be about as convincing as the last forensic anthropologic depiction of Jesus as being Crow-Magnon man. Perhaps these guys will soon reveal their latest scientific finding proving Jesus sported a bad case of exema, halitosis, seborrhia, and psoriasis.
4 posted on 11/05/2002 2:39:51 AM PST by Jeff F
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To: Jeff F
......as the last forensic anthropologic depiction of Jesus as being Crow-Magnon man.

Did that actually happen? And if it did which crazy publication put out such fallacy (fallacious because even if i did not believe in Christ the fact would still remain that Cro-Magnon man was long gone by the time of Christ). Hence i am very curious who would have said such asinine stuff.

5 posted on 11/05/2002 2:45:47 AM PST by spetznaz
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To: spetznaz
No, it didn't happen. I suspect this "new rendition" is actually the one "unearthed" by the BBC last year, shown in the US on Discovery Channel:


6 posted on 11/05/2002 2:51:25 AM PST by Cincinatus
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To: spetznaz
"They" did not say he was Crow-Magnon man -- they just produced a "scientific" rendition of him that made him look like a particularly thuggish and dim-witted version of Crow-Magnon.
7 posted on 11/05/2002 2:54:39 AM PST by Jeff F
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To: Cincinatus
Thanks for posting the picture. I was not able to find it.
8 posted on 11/05/2002 2:56:35 AM PST by Jeff F
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To: Cincinatus
Entirely appropriate, considering how many times his name has been uttered by people attempting to complete the projects published in this magazine.

LOL. I tried making a Tesla coil from PM plans when I was in grade school a long time ago. When it didn't work I uttered a few choice words that resulting in getting my mouth washed out with soap. PM was, and still is, entirely to blame for that bit of unpleasantness. :-)
10 posted on 11/05/2002 3:57:52 AM PST by pt17
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To: Timesink
All they had to do was to post the image from the Shroud of Turin. There have been numerous threads on the topic here on FR over the last few years (including a couple of my own), and I'm convinced that the image on the Shroud is the image of Jesus the Lord.

BTW, he was no 5' 1", 110 pound weakling, either. :) Far from it.

11 posted on 11/05/2002 4:01:42 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: Cincinatus
Here's another one chosen as millennium Jesus for the cover of National Catholic Reported (painting selected by art critic Sister Wendy). It's called "Jesus of the People" by Vermont artist Janet McKenzie.


12 posted on 11/05/2002 4:30:09 AM PST by newzjunkey
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To: Timesink
Where's my flying car? I WANT MY FLYING CAR!
13 posted on 11/05/2002 4:50:21 AM PST by martin_fierro
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To: newzjunkey
Looks like "The-Artist-Formerly-Known-As-Prince" Or maybe Bob Marley.
14 posted on 11/05/2002 4:52:11 AM PST by Cincinatus
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To: AbbaDabba
King James Isaiah 53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

Or from the NIV: Isaiah 53:2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.

While I agree it is silly to propose someones facial features when you don't even have the skull (it is in Heaven fully clothed with his skin-He Lives!), and we especially should not go to lengths to make his alleged appearance "ugly" the Scripture points out that Jesus was not physically attractive - by God's decision!

15 posted on 11/05/2002 6:14:47 AM PST by jimmyray
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To: Cincinatus
Or maybe Bob Marley

Per The Dialectizer:

John 2:1-25

1. And da damn dird day dere wuz some marriage in Cana uh Galilee; and da damn moda' of Jesus wuz dere, dig dis:

2. And bod Jesus wuz called, and his disciples, t'de marriage.

3. And when dey wants'ed wine, de moda' of Jesus said unto him, Dey gots no wine.

4. Jesus said unto her, Mama, whut gots ah' to do wid dee? mine hour be not yet come.

5. His moda' said unto de servants, Whutsoeva' he said unto ya', do it. Man!

6. And dere wuz set dere six boozepots uh stone, afta' de manna' of de purifyin' uh de Jews, containin' two o' dree firkins apiece.

7. Jesus said unto dem, Fill de boozepots wid booze. And dey filled dem down t'de brim. WORD!

8. And he said unto dem, Draw out now, and bear unto de governo' uh de feast. Man! And dey bare it. Man!

9. When de rula' of de feast had tasted da damn booze dat wuz made wine, and knowed not whence it wuz: (but da damn servants which drew de booze knowed;) de governo' uh de feast called da damn bridegroom,

10. And said unto him, Every joker at da damn beginnin' dod set fo'd baaaad wine; and when dudes have well drunk, den dat which be wo'se, dig dis: but dou hast kep' de baaaad wine until now, so cut me some slack, Jack.

11. Dis beginnin' uh miracles dun did Jesus in Cana uh Galilee, and manifested fo'd his glo'y; and his disciples recon'd on him. WORD!

12. Afta' dis he went waaay down t'Capuh'naum, he, and his moder, and his bredren, and his disciples, dig dis: and dey continued dere not many days.

13. And da damn Jews' passova' wuz at hand, and Jesus went down t'Jerusalem,

14. And found in de temple dose dat sold oxen and sheep and doves, and da damn changers uh bre'd sittin':

15. And when he had made some scourge uh small co'ds, he drove dem all out uh de temple, and da damn sheep, and da damn oxen; and poured out da damn changers' bre'd, and overdrew de tables;

16. And said unto dem dat sold doves, Snatch dese doodads hence; make not mah' Fader's crib an crib uh merchandise.

17. And his disciples remembered dat it wuz written, De zeal uh dine crib had fed da bud me down.

18. Den answered da damn Jews and said unto him, Whut sign shewest dou unto us, seein' dat dou duzt dese doodads?

19. Jesus answered and said unto dem, Destroy dis temple, and in dree days ah' gots'ta raise it down.

20. Den said da damn Jews, Fo'ty and six years wuz dis temple in buildin', and wilt dou rear it down in dree days?

21. But he rapped uh de temple uh his body. Slap mah fro!

22. When derefo'e he wuz risen fum de wasted, his disciples remembered dat he had said dis unto dem; and dey recon'd da damn scripture, and da damn wo'd which Jesus had said.

23. Now when he wuz in Jerusalem at da damn passover, in de feast day, many recon'd in his dojigger, when dey saw de miracles which he dun did.

24. But Jesus dun did not commit himself unto dem, cuz' he knowed all men,

25. And needed not dat any should testify uh man, dig dis: fo' he knowed whut wuz in man. 'S coo', bro.

16 posted on 11/05/2002 7:18:21 AM PST by martin_fierro
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To: newzjunkey
Ah, the good old NC(INO)R. What a travesty that little charade was.
17 posted on 11/05/2002 7:27:24 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Timesink
WWJDIY
18 posted on 11/05/2002 8:15:08 AM PST by TC Rider
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To: Timesink
Different Face for Cover of Popular Mechanics

Why not? He's the most popular mechanic (and carpenter) I know...

19 posted on 11/05/2002 9:06:46 AM PST by mhking
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To: Timesink; Admin Moderator
Aren't we only supposed to do links to the Times? Or am I having a spell? ; * )
20 posted on 11/05/2002 9:09:41 AM PST by dubyagee
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To: Timesink
As Luke 2:40 puts it: And the child grew and became strong; he was filled with wisdom, and the grace of God was upon him.

I've always figured that the sallow, effeminate depictions of Jesus weren't right. After all, the guy was a carpenter in a time when everything was done by hand.

He'd have had big, strong, workman's hands and arms. He'd have had a face that was sharp-featured like the image on the Shroud of Turin -- something to set him apart.

He apparently met the expectations of those who though of the Messiah as a military conqueror -- meaning he was probably not smaller than average, possibly larger -- he certainly had whatever it is about natural leaders that fairly shouts, "follow me."

21 posted on 11/05/2002 9:26:17 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Timesink
Probably looked a lot like one of these guys:

Joseph Lieberman, Paul Newman, Ted Koppel, Harrison Ford, Efrem Zimbalist, Jr., Kirk Douglas, Kevin Costner, Stephen Breyer, Yitzhak Rabin, Michael Landon, Lorne Greene, Mike Wallace, Benjamin Netanyahu, William Shatner, Douglas Fairbanks, Cary Grant, Leonard Bernstein, Paul Simon, Ariel Sharon, David Frost, Morley Safer, Ari Fleischer,

Steve Balmer, Jack Benny, Alan King, Casper Weinberger, Carl Reiner, George Burns, Red Buttons, Sam Levinson, Bernard Goldberg, Robert Downey Jr., Dustin Hoffman, Michael Douglas, Peter Sellers, Tony Curtis, Edward G. Robinson, Wolf Blitzer, Mel Torme, Paul Wellstone, Peter Falk, Leonard Nimoy, Jerry Springer, Arlen Spector, William Cohen,

Barry Goldwater, Robert Rubin, William Roth, Howard Metzenbaum, Hyman Rickover, Robert Reich, Russ Feinberg, Stanley Mosk, Arthur Burns, Milton Friedman, Bill Kristol, Victor Borge, William Kristol, Warren Rudman, etc.

Click on My LostTribe Screen Profile for the reason why.

22 posted on 11/05/2002 9:30:10 AM PST by LostTribe
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To: r9etb
>He'd have had big, strong, workman's hands and arms.

Maybe. But there is no Biblical evidence whatever to support the myth that he spent his life (after age 12) pounding nails.

23 posted on 11/05/2002 9:32:00 AM PST by LostTribe
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To: LostTribe
But there is no Biblical evidence whatever to support the myth that he spent his life (after age 12) pounding nails.

Not true. Mark 6:3 says, "Where did this man get these things?" they asked. "What's this wisdom that has been given him, that he even does miracles! Isn't this the carpenter? Isn't this Mary's son and the brother of James, Joseph,[1] Judas and Simon? Aren't his sisters here with us?" And they took offense at him.

At any rate, we do know he didn't really make an appearance as a spiritual leader until the wedding at Cana -- he had to have done something before then, and given that Joseph was a carpenter, it's reasonable to assume Jesus was, too.

24 posted on 11/05/2002 9:37:55 AM PST by r9etb
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To: newzjunkey
Looks like one of the Carr brothers, just convicted in KS! Thugly!
25 posted on 11/05/2002 9:38:39 AM PST by irgbar-man
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To: RightOnline
I thought of that, too. Where DO they get these insane ideas? 110 pounds? Arrghhh!!!
26 posted on 11/05/2002 9:48:07 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: Jeff F
No doubt this will be about as convincing as the last forensic anthropologic depiction of Jesus as being Crow-Magnon man. Perhaps these guys will soon reveal their latest scientific finding proving Jesus sported a bad case of exema, halitosis, seborrhia, and psoriasis.

Jesus Christ: Lord, Savior, Denture Wearer!


27 posted on 11/05/2002 9:53:57 AM PST by Timesink
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To: TC Rider
WWJDIY

IY?

28 posted on 11/05/2002 9:58:53 AM PST by Timesink
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To: newzjunkey

Jesus got a fast car
He's got a ticket to anywhere
Maybe you can make a deal
Maybe together you can get somewhere...

29 posted on 11/05/2002 10:06:38 AM PST by Timesink
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To: dubyagee
Aren't we only supposed to do links to the Times? Or am I having a spell? ; * )

No, the Times is cool. It's the Washington Post that's all anal-retentive.

30 posted on 11/05/2002 10:07:39 AM PST by Timesink
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To: Timesink
Jesus is what I feel in my heart no what I see with my eyes.
31 posted on 11/05/2002 10:08:54 AM PST by highpockets
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To: Timesink
Just a guess but DIY is an often used abbreviation for "Do It Yourself"

Thus "What Would Jesus Do It Yourself"


Think its one of those "You had to be there" kinda things ...
32 posted on 11/05/2002 10:13:30 AM PST by Tunehead54
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To: Timesink
Using the tools of forensic anthropology, scientists in the accompanying article concluded that the historical depiction of Jesus as a white man with flowing locks was inaccurate.

For this you need forensic anthropology, whatever that is?

The Jesus, Mary, etc look Italian in paintings by Da Vinci, but German in paintings by Friedrich. Something about painting from posed living models, maybe?

33 posted on 11/05/2002 10:19:40 AM PST by Salman
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To: Timesink

34 posted on 11/05/2002 10:23:45 AM PST by fishtank
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To: Cincinatus
Sadly, Cincinatus, uttered as they smash their thumb or finger...
35 posted on 11/05/2002 10:25:12 AM PST by J. Semper Paratus
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To: AbbaDabba
Even the Bible says that he was probably one from whom men turned away when they saw him...

There is a Biblical foundation for Jesus being very unattractive.

Isaiah 52:2 "...he had no form or comliness that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him." Vs. "...as one from whom men hide their faces..."(Revised Standard Edition.)

36 posted on 11/05/2002 10:47:41 AM PST by J. Semper Paratus
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To: Timesink

Are you gonna go my way?

37 posted on 11/05/2002 10:55:31 AM PST by dead
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To: Timesink
DIY is for Do It Yourself.

Thus:

What, Would Jesus Do it Yourself?

(not meant to be sacrelegious or blasphemous, I think our Lord Savior would smile actually. I see Jesus as a hands-on 'do it yourself' kind of guy)
38 posted on 11/05/2002 12:15:03 PM PST by TC Rider
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To: jimmyray
I love it when someone can back up assertions with the Word. Good job JimmyRay, and also you have provided an angle i had never before thought of.
39 posted on 11/05/2002 12:40:58 PM PST by spetznaz
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To: fishtank

40 posted on 11/05/2002 1:13:59 PM PST by Timesink
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To: r9etb
But there is no Biblical evidence whatever to support the myth that he spent his life (after age 12) pounding nails.

Not true. Mark 6:3 says, "Where did this man get these things?" they asked. "What's this wisdom that has been given him, that he even does miracles! Isn't this the carpenter? 

The problem with this traditional interpretation is that Jesus had been gone for a very long time, and they responded this way merely because it was the way they LAST remembered him. A lot can happen in 20 years, and Jesus himself said he "came to do the Fathers business".  Doesn't sound like carpentry to me, while in a very long holding pattern.


At any rate, we do know he didn't really make an appearance as a spiritual leader until the wedding at Cana -- he had to have done something before then, and given that Joseph was a carpenter, it's reasonable to assume Jesus was, too.

I don't really know where he went during those many years, and neither do you you.  But to assume he did nothing different and went nowhere else seems very unimaginative.  There are many reports of his being elsewhere during that time, all of which have at least as much credibility as the totally unsubstantiated idea that he went nowhere and did nothing. 

41 posted on 11/05/2002 6:12:49 PM PST by Mare Tranquilitatus
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To: Timesink
Dear Popular Mechanics and NYT:

Have a nice day.

42 posted on 12/26/2002 5:57:52 AM PST by Petronski
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To: Tunehead54
Would Jesus be a Black and Decker man, or a Dremel man?
43 posted on 12/26/2002 6:03:36 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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