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Hanging Carr effigies offend some in area [Wichita Massacre]
The Wichita Eagle ^ | Wed, Nov. 06, 2002 | TIM POTTER

Posted on 11/07/2002 11:59:39 AM PST by Lassiter

A front-yard display of the Carr brothers hanged in effigy has been removed after some Wichitans found it racially offensive.

For several days, two dummies -- each with a dark face and a noose around its neck -- hung from trees in the front yard of a west Wichita house.

A sign beneath the dummies, with arrows pointing to them, said "Carr Bros," referring to the two Dodge City siblings found guilty Monday of capital murder in a Wichita killing spree. The Carrs are black and their victims were white, but prosecutors say robbery -- not race -- was the motive.

The Rev. Gill Ford, the NAACP regional director in Denver, said he heard about the display from the local NAACP branch. To many African-Americans, he said, a noose is especially repugnant, "It's going to be like the swastika to somebody who's been in a concentration camp.

"My hope is that the community of Wichita as a whole would condemn those kinds of actions," Ford said.

Michael Watley, a 35-year-old black carpet layer, said he found the display to be a very public and racially offensive symbol -- a jarring reminder of prejudice and lynchings in the nation's past.

"I know there is some prejudice here," Watley said, "but I didn't think it was to that level."

The resident who put up the display, who would not give his name, said he took the dummies and the sign down late Monday night after he was told that the display upset some people.

He said he didn't intend the display to be offensive and that he put it up as a statement of outrage over the brutality of the killings. People driving by and seeing the display gave him the thumbs-up sign, he said.

But Watley sees the Carrs and their crimes this way: "They're individuals, and it doesn't matter about skin color. What they did, they did on their own."

A Wichita radio station, KDGS-FM 93.9, received nearly 100 phone calls and more than 50 e-mails from listeners who heard about the display and found it offensive, said station program director Greg Williams.

Reach Tim Potter at 268-6684 or tpotter@wichitaeagle.com.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: blackracism; carr; jonathancarr; kansas; naacp; reginaldcarr; wichitahorror; wichitamassacre
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How exactly does one make an effigy of a black person without making the dummy black?
1 posted on 11/07/2002 11:59:39 AM PST by Lassiter
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To: KS Flyover
Carr bros. bump.
2 posted on 11/07/2002 12:01:04 PM PST by Lassiter
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To: Lassiter
Curiously, the Rev. Gil Ford and Watley were not offended by and did not condemn the actual murders, which were as racist and bloodthirsty as they get. No sensitivety there at all.
3 posted on 11/07/2002 12:06:53 PM PST by 3AngelaD
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To: Lassiter
You have to hang white dummies, then its not racial.
Then you use eubonics, in large letters to explain, slowly, that it was their knuckel dragging mentality and brutality that is being protested. Of course it wasn't a racial issue ... just becasue they raped and murdered white folks .... Give me a friggin break !
4 posted on 11/07/2002 12:10:38 PM PST by Marobe
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To: Lassiter
Let’s see, five white folks stripped of their dignity and brutally murdered; but a couple of stupid effigies are all the NAACP is talking about? "I realize there is some NAACP prejudice, but I didn't think it was to that level."
Seems these people have the victimization role down to fine art.
5 posted on 11/07/2002 12:22:53 PM PST by countryDon
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To: Lassiter
I guess they will really get bent out of shape when we hang up the real things!
6 posted on 11/07/2002 12:27:47 PM PST by blau993
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To: Lassiter
how sad the truth is off limits so often nowadays - to that brave and outraged resident I say KUDOS
7 posted on 11/07/2002 12:40:41 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Lassiter
Well of course it's offensive. Ettiquette dictates that you BURN people in effigee, not hang them.
8 posted on 11/07/2002 12:42:05 PM PST by discostu
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To: Lassiter

The Rev. Gill Ford, the NAACP regional director in Denver, said he heard about the display from the local NAACP branch. To many African-Americans, he said, a noose is especially repugnant, "It's going to be like the swastika to somebody who's been in a concentration camp.

Really, "Reverend" Ford?  You'd find an equivalence between the "African American Experience" and a concentration camp?  After 30+ years of racial set asides, an un even playing field, affirmative action, quotas, hate crime legislation, blindingly rapid rising standard of living, and seeing your "community" rise in stature to have the purchasing power of the fifth largest country on earth to be in someway comparable to a concentration camp?

Or did you really mean a death camp?  Where Millions of Jews, Gypsies, Mental Defectives and various other "Undesirables" were worked until near fatal exhaustion or were exposed to ghastly medical experiments and then were gassed or shot in the head?

You know, I've got to say, you've lost me in that comparison.  Maybe you should re-examine the statement as it seems like it might have been made by someone with an umbrage disorder.

It's an effigy of two animals who committed a horrific act.  You've got something missing from your soul if upon seeing this you somehow relate to the Carrs and feel offended.  You've long exhausted my compassion for your "plight" and are rapidly expending that of my fellow Americans.

 

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

9 posted on 11/07/2002 12:54:03 PM PST by South Hawthorne
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To: countryDon
Remember, the snipers were definitely white gun-lovers. No doubt about it at all. However, once they turned out to be black Muslims, it's "oh, nevermind." President Bush is criticized for mentioning that Saddam wanted to assassinate his father, yet, he is called racist for defending this nation from Iraq.
10 posted on 11/07/2002 1:05:38 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: mhking
ping
11 posted on 11/07/2002 1:09:10 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Lassiter
Better they should hang their effigies in effigy.....
12 posted on 11/07/2002 1:09:47 PM PST by tracer
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To: 3AngelaD; Travis McGee
Exactly !

Stay Safe !

13 posted on 11/07/2002 1:12:03 PM PST by Squantos
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To: Owl_Eagle
What you said.
14 posted on 11/07/2002 1:13:29 PM PST by Xenalyte
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To: Xenalyte
To: f.Christian

Now I follow, thank you. Actually, I don't disagree with this at all since I see the left as abandoning the uncertianty of democracy and majority rule for the assurance technocracy and expert rule.

152 posted on 9/10/02 12:17 PM Pacific by Liberal Classic

and...

To: f.Christian

Dakmar...

I took a few minutes to decipher that post, and I must say I agree with a lot of what you said.

fC...

These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values(private/personal) GROWTH(limited NON-intrusive PC Govt/religion---schools)!

Dakmar...

Where you and I diverge is on the Evolution/Communism thing. You seem to view Darwin and evolution as the beginning of the end for enlighted, moral civilization, while I think Marx, class struggle, and the "dictatorship of the proletariat" are the true dangers.

God bless you, I think we both have a common enemy in the BRAVE-NWO.

452 posted on 9/7/02 8:54 PM Pacific by Dakmar


15 posted on 11/07/2002 1:15:50 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
Huh?
16 posted on 11/07/2002 1:16:42 PM PST by Xenalyte
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To: Lassiter
Michael Watley, a 35-year-old black carpet layer, said he found the display to be a very public and racially offensive symbol

Pretty specialized... is there that much demand for black carpet?

17 posted on 11/07/2002 1:18:45 PM PST by Sloth
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To: Xenalyte
Evolution...Atheism-dehumanism---TYRANNY(pc/liberal/govt-religion/rhetoric)...

Then came the SPLIT SCHIZOPHRENIA/ZOMBIE/BRAVE-NWO1984 LIBERAL NEO-Soviet Darwin/ACLU America---the post-modern age of switch-flip-spin-DEFORMITY-cancer...Atheist secular materialists through ATHEISM/evolution CHANGED-REMOVED the foundations...demolished the wall(separation of state/religion)--trampled the TRUTH-GOD...built a satanic temple/SWAMP-MALARIA/RELIGION(cult of darwin-marx-satan) over them---REDACTED and made these absolutes subordinate--relative and calling/CHANGING all the... residuals---technology/science === TO evolution via schlock/sMUCK IDEOLOGY/lies/bias...to substantiate/justify their efforts--claims...social engineering--PC--atheism...anti-God/Truth RELIGION(USSC monopoly)--and declared a crusade/WAR--JIHAD--INTOLERANCE/TYRANNY(breaking the establishment clause)...against God--man--society/FREEDOM/LIBERTY/SCIENCE!!

18 posted on 11/07/2002 1:23:43 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: Xenalyte
To: Marathon

Missionaries have said for years that American educational/media institutions are far more closed than in places like Russia. This underscores their point. What was it someone said, to find real communists these days you have to visit an American university?

2 Posted on 03/27/2000 10:56:24 PST by Marathon

19 posted on 11/07/2002 1:27:41 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
I'm afraid I'm missing something, but I'm not sure why you keep posting cut-n-pastes to me.
20 posted on 11/07/2002 1:35:50 PM PST by Xenalyte
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