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The Seemliness Issue
The Weekly Standard ^ | 11/18/2002 | Noemie Emery

Posted on 11/08/2002 9:59:32 PM PST by Pokey78

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1 posted on 11/08/2002 9:59:32 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: summer; Howlin; Miss Marple; JohnHuang2; MeeknMing; Sabertooth; terilyn
Ping!
2 posted on 11/08/2002 10:08:25 PM PST by Pokey78
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The Massachusetts Touch --
Or, Putting Your Foot In It, Big-Time

By Lawrence Henry
Published 11/8/02 12:03:00 AM www.theamericanprowler.org

Mitt won, and he won big, and throughout the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, Republicans have reason to cheer. It looks like the GOP may be able to make a comeback in future elections. And the reason is simple: Unlike William Weld, Mitt Romney actually owes his election to Republicans. And hopes are high that Mitt will devote himself to party-building, as Weld and his successors most conspicuously did not.

There's a kind of weird symmetry here between the gubernatorial races of 2002 and 1990. The party alignments are completely different. Boston University President John Silber ran as a Democrat, but he was far more conservative than Bill Weld. You thought Newt Gingrich had a mouth -- you never heard Silber. Weld won with the help of shocked Massachusetts liberals crossing party lines; he never owed anything to the GOP. Silber got the conservative and Republican votes, and then blew his lead in the last week with a blatant insult to beloved local TV news anchor Natalie Jacobsen.

I did not see or hear that broadcast (we got here a few months later), and do not know exactly what was said. But the man who told me the story, the former Boston housing commissioner and a trustee of BU, was so shocked at what Silber had said he couldn't repeat the words.

In Massachusetts, politics is not only personal, it's in-your-face personal. In the election just past, everybody called the candidates "Shannon" and "Mitt," and acted as though they knew them. And the candidates themselves, knowing the game, did everything they could to come across personally to the commonwealth's voters.

So when you look for what happened, you have to dig beneath the common answers about organization or get out the vote efforts or ideological positioning. You have to look for something that either resonates very positively for one candidate or very negatively for another.

Shannon O'Brien rang up one of those defining negative moments in her last debate with Mitt Romney, moderated by NBC's Tim Russert. With the discussion clearly headed toward a question about parental consent for abortions, Russert brought up the fact that teenagers could get tattoos without their parents' consent at age 16.

"Do you want to see my tattoo?" O'Brien cracked, a levity that appalled Russert -- and the watching and listening audience. Late-night talk radio, particularly irreverent in Boston, was full of that exchange that night.

In one careless moment, Shannon made herself bitchily unlikable, not to any of the doctrinaire voters who had already made up their minds, but to the ordinary folk who pay only scant and personal attention to politics. It cost her the election.

But that levity amounted to more than mere carelessness. It betrayed the core of what being a Democrat had ultimately become, in the aftermath of the Clinton era, the time when, to quote Gary Aldrich, the Dem insiders all saw themselves as "so f***ing smart." The act has worn itself out. Too many Democrats have displayed that attitude too many times.

For the doctrinaire types, once again, it didn't make any difference. But for the occasionals, the swing voters who decide elections, it finally grated on the senses. And a significant number of those people, all over the country, decided to knock the self-satisfied smirk right off their local Democrat's face.

P.S. Here in Massachusetts, as in the rest of the country, the media just doesn't get it at all. Bob Oakes, the perennial local anchor on WBUR, the NPR news station, marveled that a Libertarian had pulled 20 percent of the vote against Senator John Kerry. Oakes (who pronounces his name "Ewks") appeared not to know the personal motives involved in the voting booth, which were simple: People looked at the Senatorial race, Kerry's name with no Republican opponent, and said to themselves, "I'll vote for anybody against that bastard." And they did. I did, and I don't even remember the Libertarian's name.

3 posted on 11/08/2002 10:12:55 PM PST by MoralSense
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To: Pokey78
I seem to recal Chuckt Schumer grousing about the pubbies having a litmus test and that being unseemly in his leftist eyes. Wasn't it Schumer who spouted off about the pubbies trying to use a litmus test when declining to bring sinkEmperor's nominations to a vote? what a duplicitous bastard Chuckey is.
4 posted on 11/08/2002 10:13:09 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Pokey78
Nice analysis.

I think it was no accident either. Karl Rove and George W. did two essential things that led to this:

  1. They really did bring a new tone to Washington. While the Rats continued their food fight and lawlessness, W. treated all with respect, and acted with human kindness and integrity. Middle America had about given up on ever seeing someone in Washingon worthy of their trust or their friendship. They are happy to have that faith renewed. Some of us who follow politics too closely were chomping at the bit to send the Clintons to the penitentiary for life, and were disappointed. That's ok.
  2. They starved the Rats of issues. Sometimes moving more to the liberal side of issues than we conservatives would like, and thanks to the War on Terror, W. left the Rats with no major issues they could get a bite on.
This beat the Rats both in policy and in trust. A cornered Rat is not a pretty site, as this article attests to.
5 posted on 11/08/2002 10:17:24 PM PST by ThePythonicCow
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To: Pokey78
Clinton, Gore, Torrecilli, Lautenberg, New Jersey Supremes, Wellstone, Mondale, Leahy...

This article could more aptly be named "The Seediness Issue"

6 posted on 11/08/2002 10:19:17 PM PST by FatherOfLiberty
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To: Pokey78
BTTT for another great obituary of the Democratic Party.
7 posted on 11/08/2002 10:22:17 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: MoralSense
Question for ya: Would Mitt appoint a pubby to finish the term of one of the dem Senators should the whale or the other have to leave office or become incapacitated?... There are good thing not voiced about a Republican governor getting elected to the Mass-a-two-sh!ts office.
8 posted on 11/08/2002 10:22:25 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Pokey78
Bush could not hurt Leahy in Vermont, Schumer in New York, or Feinstein in California, but by taking down Cleland and fending off Kirk, he could push them all back into minority status, where they now have less power.

Three strikes, you're out.

9 posted on 11/08/2002 10:25:00 PM PST by greydog
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To: MHGinTN
Would Mitt appoint a pubby to finish the term of one of the dem Senators should the whale or the other have to leave office or become incapacitated?

Yes. And don't think Kerry and Kennedy don't know it. It puts a serious crimp in Kerry's Presidential hopes, for one thing.

10 posted on 11/08/2002 10:26:12 PM PST by MoralSense
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To: Pokey78
President Bush has class...
Democrats are crass.

The difference between these two decided this election.

11 posted on 11/08/2002 10:34:26 PM PST by dixiechick2000
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Thanks, Pokey. This writer is 100% correct. I live in Florida, we didn't like being made fun of for 3 months that we were idiots who couldn't punch a ballot. We all knew what game was being played, no matter how the media kept saying "let the votes count".

All week I have been listening to the media spout the reason they lost is because they have no message. No, that's not true. The reason they lost is they are INDECENT. They have no sense of propriety, and they offend people. I personally don't think it has that much to do with ideology. They have been labeled as the party of Clinton, and everyone knows what a pig he is.

And they still don't get it. They still don't understand what they have done wrong. It won't end. And it will doom them, because the fact of the matter is, they don't know how to behave decently, and when they spit on the color guard and the boys scouts and throw elections into chaos by bending rules and laugh at funerals, they don't understand why anyone would think it is a big deal.

And because they don't recognize it when it happens, they can't correct it. Their strident and obnoxious manner turns people off, and they never will figure that out.

12 posted on 11/08/2002 10:42:51 PM PST by I still care
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To: I still care; Kevin Curry

We'll have to give the Democrats some more time, what with their Libertarian shock-troops working to corrupt the people who hire the corrupt politicians; one more generation of moral-liberal indoctrination and no one will bother to care one way or another.

13 posted on 11/08/2002 10:47:55 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
You may have inadvertently put your finger on why Pelosi will be satisfactory to the dem's cause: the libertarians will apear more pubby-like and the leftist dems will have a ready-made siphon for votes in order to elect dems!
14 posted on 11/08/2002 10:55:18 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Pokey78
Excellent article.

Two important points worth noting:

1.) The real turning point in the Republicans' attitude was the attempted theft of the 2000 election.

2.) Much of what the Rats have done which motivated the Pubs would have been covered up in the past. Now we have talk radio and FR. Thank you Rush, and thank you JR.
15 posted on 11/08/2002 11:02:06 PM PST by Jeff Chandler
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Good case for the Republicans being activated

As for DemoRats being repressed:
A) "Sniper" Team
..1) War on Terror
..2) Immigration
..3) Dominated news for weeks/ suppressed Dem propaganda
..4) Sniper "Team" was Gay "Pride" on parade
..5) Psychologically suppressed the black vote to some degree

B) Stormy Weather

16 posted on 11/08/2002 11:04:46 PM PST by TeleStraightShooter
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To: I still care
The reason they lost is they are INDECENT. They have no sense of propriety, and they offend people. I personally don't think it has that much to do with ideology. They have been labeled as the party of Clinton, and everyone knows what a pig he is.

And they still don't get it. They still don't understand what they have done wrong. It won't end. And it will doom them, because the fact of the matter is, they don't know how to behave decently, and when they spit on the color guard and the boys scouts and throw elections into chaos by bending rules and laugh at funerals, they don't understand why anyone would think it is a big deal.

Nicely done.

JH2, you've got a week's worth of Quotes of the Day here.




17 posted on 11/09/2002 1:45:45 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: dixiechick2000
President Bush has class...
Democrats are crass.

The difference between these two decided this election.

Class, crass--what's the difference? (if you are Japanese and hear those two words, there isn't any)!

18 posted on 11/09/2002 2:00:24 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: Pokey78
Clinton himself took a huge hit on Tuesday, sinking his reputation as a political rock star and mastermind. Everywhere he campaigned he left a trail of defeated candidates. He went to Florida to get revenge on Jeb Bush, who seemed to be in a squeaker. After he left, Bush opened a large lead. Clinton's beaming face at Paul Wellstone's memorial also went a long way toward sinking Walter Mondale, and helped feed the backlash. (This also should put an end to the great debate stemming out of the 2000 election, namely: Could Clinton have won it for Gore if Gore had used him? The answer is in now: It's no.)
19 posted on 11/09/2002 2:07:37 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: Pokey78
Excellent article, Pokey ! I'm away from my computer right now or I'd use my ping list. :O( Maybe someone else will use their big ole list?

Here is a note I sent to the DNC on their website just a little bit ago:

.....I'm HAPPY the GOP kicked Democrats a**es November 5th.

The GOOD news is you guys don't get it and never will. Your "Divide Amerika" tactics backfired. You opposed everything that good Americans are for. You offer NO positive plan, but BASH the GOP and their plans. Americans are SICK and TIRED of your sh** and are seeing through it.

God Bless President Bush and ALL the GOP that I voted for on my straight ticket GOP vote, and those that won victories nationwide, snubbing you a**holes into your rats nest once again!

Up yours forever!

PS: Please keep Barbara Streisand as your poster child. We have fun at her expense. And Dicky Gephardt loves her Sooo much too. I loved the part where he said he listens to her. Bwhahahahaha!

Sorry 'bout the languange. I just couldn't help myself just this one time. :O0
20 posted on 11/09/2002 4:59:35 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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