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Communist Chinese Heavily Penetrating Canada -- And People Thought I Was Nutty
American Partisan.com ^ | 11/10/2002 | Linda A. Prussen-Razzano

Posted on 11/10/2002 5:35:31 AM PST by ex-Texan

Communist Chinese Heavily Penetrating Canada -- And People Thought I Was Nutty

by Linda A. Prussen-Razzano

Several months ago, I focused attention on our peaceful northern neighbor, Canada, and the problems they were apparently having with the Communist Chinese. Inasmuch as the Communist Chinese successfully infiltrated every level of the Clinton Administration with a cash-for-access plan, a dual process was taking place in Canada.

Massive land purchases and alarming dual-use technology business buy-outs were documented in Project Sidewinder, compiled by Canadian Security Intelligence Service (the full report still hasn't been released). Communist Chinese were filtering through Canada, only to disappear somewhere in America.

Dual-use technology purchases of fiber optic gyroscopes, funneled through Canadian businesses to China, were exposed by custom agents. My concern over these activities, and my assertion that they were part of a coordinated effort, made some people speculate that I had tipped my bag and lost a few of my proverbial marbles.

Nevertheless, Chinese spies were successful in infiltrating the Atomic Energy of Canada, Ltd., (AECL) and making off with plans for their Slowpoke nuclear reactor. The AECL has recently been forced to shelve it's own plans to sell the reactor abroad because China's stolen copy is much less expensive. According to a Globe report dated January 24, 2000, China didn't even have the courtesy to change the reactor's name, calling their own a "Slowpoke." How did they gain access to this technology? A source indicated, "What they didn't buy, they stole." (Globe, January 24, 2000). Sound familiar? When I attempted to focus attention on Senator Tom Daschle's plan to give the Soviets $1.2 billion on military aid (of which they ultimately received $444,000,000), decrying their continued cooperation with China's military build-up, some folks were positive I had turned daffy.

Nevertheless, in August of 1999, China purchased 2 billion in Su-30MKK fighter jets, which are now in use, and on December 25, 1999, accepted delivery of a Russian Sovremenny Class destroyer, Type 956. We pay them millions to keep their military solvent, and China buys billions in Russian military technology. Who is kidding who?

When I chided Congress for not listening to FBI Director Louis Freeh's 1997 testimony before the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, regarding his concerns for expanding encryption code allowances, some folks thought I was uninformed.

Nevertheless, the United States is now pressing China's government to comply with new encryption regulations by February 1, 2000, in the hopes of getting the encryption horse back in the barn:

"Under regulations that take effect on Monday, all foreign and mainland companies or individuals using encryption technology, which protects electronic communication from eavesdropping, must register with the government." (South China Morning Post, "Encryption Rules Focus of US Talks," Reuters in Washington, January 29, 2000).

Given their past record of non-compliance, we have nothing to fear, right?

When I insisted that our disastrous policy of continued engagement with China could only hurt the United States, some folks were sure I was overreacting.

Nevertheless, "Andy Marshall, who takes charge of threats evaluation section of the US Department of Defense, recently said that he was worried that 'a nonsymmetrical war' would break out [over Taiwan] in which US weak points would be thoroughly exposed. Under Marshall's instructions, former Deputy Assistant Defense Secretary Bai Bang-rui designed a war game with China as the opponent, which showed that although the US had the most powerful armament in the world, more often than not it became the loser in a fight against the PLA." (BBC Summary of World Broadcasts, January 17, 2000).

Don't mind me. I'm just counting my marbles.

Carolyn Katzan contributed to this article.

www.american-partisan.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: canadianborders; chinesethreat
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Covert Chinese penetration of our society is a major problem. It's time to close our borders!
1 posted on 11/10/2002 5:35:32 AM PST by ex-Texan
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To: ex-Texan
Would the Canadian version of George Bush please step forward!
2 posted on 11/10/2002 5:43:59 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: ex-Texan
re:
"..It's time to close our borders!.."

Nonesense.

It's time to be aware of what's going on around you and stop
being so complacent regarding your neighbor's "odd" activities.

Isolationism and closing of borders works as well as forbidding
your teenage kid of heavy petting to prevent promiscuity and
pregnancy. Preserve freedom of movement by paying attention
to details.

Stop expecting your government to protect you from all that's dangerous.

Egads, even the "conservatives" have been brainwashed..........

 

3 posted on 11/10/2002 5:51:05 AM PST by Deep_6
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To: ex-Texan
It will take America years to recover from the destructive effects of the Clinton Administration, but now that the U.S. is back on track, we will recover and surge ahead. Thank God for George Bush--now and especially this Thanksgiving!

Yes. Top priority must be given to closing and securing our borders. Why is the use of the military for this purpose a problem? Why the hesitation?

Furthermore, the whereabouts of all aliens must be known, and all illegal aliens must be expelled.

4 posted on 11/10/2002 5:51:17 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: ex-Texan
it's too late in Canaduahztan!

Chinese have taken over whole regions of the GTO,from spadina ave. now chinatown- to Markham,a sprawling northern suburb,all signs are Chinese,they even refuse speak english!

you have to drive through it to believe it
5 posted on 11/10/2002 5:52:00 AM PST by wiseone
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To: Deep_6
Yeah but, Deep, one of the ligitimate purposes of the federal government is national defense. It seems that securing and protecting the borders is a big part of national defense. Why would you not be in favor of that?
6 posted on 11/10/2002 5:55:00 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: ex-Texan
>>...What they didn't buy, they stole...<<

A local fiber optic company had a Chinese employee that stole confidential material and fled to China. Company has won a judgement in US Courts against China. Rotsa Ruck in ever seeing the money though.

I'm willing to bet that's going on all over the country.

7 posted on 11/10/2002 6:01:35 AM PST by FReepaholic
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To: Savage Beast
re:
"..It seems that securing and protecting the borders is a big part of national defense...."

There's another thread dealing with making encrypted messaging illegal, read that. It's
in the name of "national defense" also.

While the front door is bolted and locked to all; coming and going; YOU included,
the infiltration is through the back door. Ooooooo-kay.......

Let's make it mandatory to have in our possession at all times, a National
Identification card. Now you could feel safe, knowing that your government
will check each and every one of us at any time, to insure that no unscrupulous
foreigner has infiltrated our land.

What's next? Tattoos on our foreheads?

Stop demanding that your government controls everything for the sake of
"national defense", you're asking for trouble.

 

8 posted on 11/10/2002 6:06:27 AM PST by Deep_6
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To: wiseone
Heck, Richmond in BC IS Chinatown lol

But in fairness to the Chinese community in Canada, the vast majority are simply immigrants like any other. The problem is it would be easy for spies to blend in and there is little cooperation from Asian communities with police or other authorities.
9 posted on 11/10/2002 6:08:44 AM PST by Skywalk
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To: Deep_6
Preserve freedom of movement by paying attention to details.

"Eternal vigilance" is the key, but I am afraid of our own citizens...some of whom display very bad judgement by continually voting for candidates that wish to curtail our liberties. We risk everything either way.

Our swiss-cheese borders are problematic, but so would be every person keeping tabs on his/her neighbors. We need common sense plus a deep love and appreciation for our freedoms. I don't know how to teach the former, and in general people only learn appreciation for what they have after they've lost it.

10 posted on 11/10/2002 6:12:15 AM PST by Aracelis
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To: Savage Beast
There is no Canadian version of W. I spend a fair amount of time on business in Montreal where even my friends consider me a political barbarian. They are so far down the socialist road that it will take a war that hits them hard and then a few political generations to pull them back.
11 posted on 11/10/2002 6:20:23 AM PST by wtc911
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To: Deep_6; Savage Beast
<< What's next? Tattoos on our foreheads? >>

Let's not delude ourselves, shall we?

Every American forehead has effectively been tattooed ever since the traitor Roosefeldt and his gang of fellow bastard offspring of the American Communist Party -- and that gang's fellow travellers -- whose control of the bureaucratic levers of feral-gummint power and of Our Beloved FRaternal Republic's Courts has, since the mid 1930s, been close to Absolute -- first introduced the final hallmark of the totalitarian state.

The illegal, criminal, unlawful and unconstitutional national identity system by which every one of US is numbered and branded and which we all carry in the form of the "social security" card.

And this article but hints at the enormity of the loathesome and fearsome chinese communists' penetration; via the willingly compliant offices of the unfriendly state to Our North; into America's business and military secrets.
12 posted on 11/10/2002 6:29:43 AM PST by Brian Allen
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To: Deep_6
This is ridiculous. We can allow some people to migrate into the US, but we have to secure our borders and monitor the people who come in. We have very specific laws that make people go thru certain hoops to stay in our country, (Are they followed- NO- and that is a crime). There should never be uncheck immigration. That is suicide !!!
13 posted on 11/10/2002 6:32:50 AM PST by Maxy
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To: Piltdown_Woman
We need common sense plus a deep love and appreciation for our freedoms. I don't know how to teach the former, and in general people only learn appreciation for what they have after they've lost it.

I agree but would be interested in what specific action can be taken (in your opinion) that provides protection we cannot bring about through individual efforts? What are we to do about our borders and alien controls?

14 posted on 11/10/2002 6:38:40 AM PST by toddst
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To: toddst
I agree but would be interested in what specific action can be taken (in your opinion) that provides protection we cannot bring about through individual efforts? What are we to do about our borders and alien controls?

Aside from firming up our borders (National Guard?) and repatriating illegal aliens, I don't know. I don't see any easy answers...

15 posted on 11/10/2002 6:45:09 AM PST by Aracelis
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To: Deep_6
"Stop demanding that your government controls everything for the sake of 'national defense', you're asking for trouble."

Of course, you're right about this. A clear vision of the possibilities of uncontolled government is yet one more gift of the Clinton Administration.

However, the securing of our borders is as basic and non-threatening to the citizenry as is a powerful and efficient military.

Identification cards and tattoos are unnecessary. Fingerprint and iris-identification computer databases would serve the same purpose.

I do not advocate such things for U.S. citizens. In fact, I oppose them as strongly as possible.

However, I would favor such a thing for aliens--for every non-citizen in the U.S. If you would not, why not?

16 posted on 11/10/2002 6:53:18 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: Maxy
Control of the borders is only impossible to people happily exploiting illegal immigrants. It's amazing the United States had very good control of our borders for more than two hundred years. Most developed countries still maintain good control of their borders.
17 posted on 11/10/2002 6:55:49 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Savage Beast
Would the Canadian version of George Bush please step forward!

He'd only win a couple of provinces at best...

18 posted on 11/10/2002 7:00:21 AM PST by JimRed
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To: Skywalk
Speaking of Chinese immigrants in Richmond, I had many a wonderful dinner at Chinese restaurants there during an extended stay in Toronto.

One in particular--I wish I could remember the name--was absolutely fabulous--and so were the Chinese immigrants who operated it!

One waitress in particular I'll never forget. She was so nice.

One evening, after the shark's fin soup and a glorious sago dessert, I told her that I had never had Peking duck.

She talked with the manager, and they told me that if I would come back the next night, they would prepare it for me de-luxe!

I did.

Even though the menu said that it was for two, they served it to me though I was alone and charged me for one person only.

They treated me like a king.

I was so grateful to them. They were embarrassed by my effusive expressions of gratitude, and that I regretted.

I have never forgotten. They were as lovely as any people I have ever met.

19 posted on 11/10/2002 7:06:25 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: wtc911
Then we're just going to have to save them from themselves.

Furthermore, there's no way we're going to let that hunk of real estate go down the drain. (Sorry, Cannucks. Just stating the obvious.)

20 posted on 11/10/2002 7:08:55 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: Brian Allen
I certainly agree with you about Franklin Roosevelt, Brian. (My parents thought he was wonderful. If they were alive today, they would definitely think otherwise.) The 2002 election was, among many other things, the strongest rebuke yet to the F. Roosevelt Administration and what it did to the United States--the strongest rebuke, yes, but not strong enough.
21 posted on 11/10/2002 7:13:30 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: ex-Texan
I believe Canada has a very friendly immigration policy. Their population is around 25 millions and aging. They need new blood to work and pay taxes to support their expensive social welfare system.

They used to give citizenship to anyone who was willing bring $500,000 to Canada. Not sure if this policy still exists. Anyway, right before Hong Kong was handed back to China, a lot of Chinese from Hong Kong bought their citizenships and moved their families to Canada. I wonder if this is still happening?
22 posted on 11/10/2002 7:14:28 AM PST by Fishing-guy
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To: Maxy
Everyone, please read post #13 by Maxy. This is required reading.

An exerpt:

"We can allow some people to migrate into the US, but we have to secure our borders and monitor the people who come in."
Now. Someone hand Maxy a megaphone.
23 posted on 11/10/2002 7:17:42 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: ex-Texan
It's all part of the long term plans of the International Communist Conspiracy to have the US tie up its resources protecting its immediate borders. That frees up the rest of the borders of the world for Communist aggression. The US has limited military resources and when they are pulled from the DMZ in Korea, from Taiwan, from the Phillipines and other places the dominoes shall begin to fall.
24 posted on 11/10/2002 7:18:58 AM PST by Gary Boldwater
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To: Piltdown_Woman
But what's wrong with firming up our borders and repatriating illegal aliens? And why the National Guard? Why not the military?
25 posted on 11/10/2002 7:19:49 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: Deep_6
Yeah.

REAL conservatives don't have any need for government. Someone steals your car? Shoot him. A man is accused of rape? Form a lynch mob. A billion ChiComs threaten invasion? Form a neighborhood pool for an ICBM silo.

Because we all know that REAL conservatives have no use for any government in any form - even things such as securing our borders, providing for national defense, or running the courts, as it was meant to do.

26 posted on 11/10/2002 7:22:06 AM PST by ConservativeNewsNetwork
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To: JimRed
"He'd only win a couple of provinces at best..."

But look on the bright side. George barely squeezed by in Florida in 2002. There's a great and brilliant leader lurking somewhere in Canada right now, maybe even reading our FR posts.

Come forth!

27 posted on 11/10/2002 7:24:41 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: Fishing-guy
The answer to yourquetion about the liberal immigration policy which opens Canada's borders is: It still is going on today.

They have reduced the "cash and carry" quota to a mere $ 250,000 or the promise of gainful employment.

No problem at all for any reasonably effective Chinese spy.

28 posted on 11/10/2002 7:30:57 AM PST by ex-Texan
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To: Skywalk; conniew
The villains aren't the Chinese immigrants (by and large). The villains are Chretien and his government and a certain energy company which are in bed with the Communist Chinese in oil operations in the Sudan and Lord knows what else.

Honestly, the Canadian version of George Bush better step up before Alberta and other parts of Western Canada decide to go it without Ontario and Quebec.

29 posted on 11/10/2002 7:32:35 AM PST by Siobhan
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To: Savage Beast
This is the Canadian George Bush. Bush is the one proposing legal status for all our illegals and open borders. Huge numbers of illegal Chinese also end up in the US. Been to Vancouver BC lately? The Chinese own the place.
30 posted on 11/10/2002 7:35:50 AM PST by willyone
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To: wiseone
Yes, I can confirm this....the next federal election will see a great increase in Chinese elected members of parliment.

Why you say...simple math...Toronto has the largest number of the parliment seats, and Toronto is predominately Asian, Chinese and east Indian.

The Chinese are flooding into Toronto at the rate of 200,000 per yr (my estimate)take that rate over the last 10 years, plus their birth rate and one can see that politics in Canada is changing with every 747 that lands.

And, of course abortion kills off the Europeans, it is simple math, 1500 million Chinese + 1200 million Indians against 20 million European Canadians...last caucasian out please close the door....
31 posted on 11/10/2002 7:36:43 AM PST by thinking
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To: Piltdown_Woman
The answers are easy. The hard part is getting the balls to implement them. Might offend someone don't you know.
32 posted on 11/10/2002 7:41:00 AM PST by willyone
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To: Gary Boldwater
You been smoking something? What communist conspiracy? It is all being done by trade now. We send the Chinese untold billions and they buy Soviet weapons and fund problems around the world. Shut down China mart and most other stores. Have you ever tried to find anything made in the USA? Greed is what will destroy this nation. No oyhers but our own.
33 posted on 11/10/2002 7:46:02 AM PST by willyone
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To: willyone
No, but Bush needs to change his tune on legal status for all our illegals and open borders.. Now that he's gotten this mandate, maybe he will. If he doen't, we, the people, need to...insist.
34 posted on 11/10/2002 7:53:52 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: Savage Beast
But what's wrong with firming up our borders and repatriating illegal aliens? And why the National Guard? Why not the military?

Perhaps I expressed myself badly. I DO believe we must firm up our borders and repatriate illegals.

In my opinion, the National Guard would be the best choice for patrolling our borders because they are often called out to assist in local and regional crises. Our military has not (to my knowledge) been used for these purposes. I am hesitant of any use of our military here at home EXCEPT in the case of defense against physical attacks from outside our borders.

35 posted on 11/10/2002 7:54:03 AM PST by Aracelis
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To: willyone
The answers are easy. The hard part is getting the balls to implement them. Might offend someone don't you know.

I agree...the PC crowd has really hamstrung us. Instead, we now debate the "rights" of illegals, when they should only be deported.

36 posted on 11/10/2002 7:56:19 AM PST by Aracelis
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To: Savage Beast; coteblanche
Would the Canadian version of George Bush please step forward!


38 posted on 11/10/2002 8:05:57 AM PST by jla
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To: Savage Beast
We are working on it Beast. Their are several who could respond to the call.
39 posted on 11/10/2002 8:09:39 AM PST by albertabound
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To: thinking
The Chinese are flooding into Toronto

And Vancouver, B.C.

40 posted on 11/10/2002 8:10:29 AM PST by Eala
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To: Siobhan
Honestly, the Canadian version of George Bush better step up before Alberta and other parts of Western Canada decide to go it without Ontario and Quebec.

Calling or moron Prime Minister "the Canadian version of George Bush" is like calling Bill Clinton "the '90s version of Ronald Reagan"!

On the bright side, the Canada Chapter is planning to make Da Moron's life a bit uncomfortable on November 18th as we storm Parliament Hill in our biggest FReep ever!

Stay tuned for details!

41 posted on 11/10/2002 8:11:14 AM PST by conniew
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To: SrBahamonde
If you love the Chinese restaurants in Toronto just think how much you could enjoy the cuisine in Beijing!

There is very good cuisine available in Beijing, let me assure you. But very different from anything you'd get in a "Chinese" restaurant here (except maybe the Peking duck -- rich, but good...). Sunday breakfasts down south are also excellent -- very like dim sum.

I wonder if it's true that the Chinese enjoy dining on aborted fetuses? I just read that within the past two days here on FR.

If they do, they kept them out of sight when I was there. LOL. (ugh)

42 posted on 11/10/2002 8:13:44 AM PST by Eala
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To: Savage Beast
It will take America years to recover from the destructive effects of the Clinton Administration, but now that the U.S. is back on track, we will recover and surge ahead. Thank God for George Bush--now and especially this Thanksgiving!

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How in the world is the U. S. back on track? Is ther another U.S, and another Bush somewhere that I don't know about and to which you are referring?

43 posted on 11/10/2002 8:19:11 AM PST by RLK
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To: Savage Beast
It will take America years to recover from the destructive effects of the Clinton Administration, but now that the U.S. is back on track, we will recover and surge ahead. Thank God for George Bush--now and especially this Thanksgiving!

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How in the world is the U. S. back on track? Is ther another U.S, and another Bush somewhere that I don't know about and to which you are referring?

44 posted on 11/10/2002 8:20:05 AM PST by RLK
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To: tscislaw
Company has won a judgement in US Courts against China.

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Unenforcable in a country that doesn't recognize American law.

45 posted on 11/10/2002 8:22:23 AM PST by RLK
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To: Savage Beast
I have never forgotten. They were as lovely as any people I have ever met.

Chinese restaurants and the people who run them are among the greatest people and institutions in the world. The people there are hard-working and warm. It's my observation that the average Chinese restraurant sends five kids through engineering school.

46 posted on 11/10/2002 8:32:20 AM PST by RLK
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To: SrBahamonde
If you love the Chinese restaurants in Toronto just think how much you could enjoy the cuisine in Beijing! I wonder if it's true that the Chinese enjoy dining on aborted fetuses? I just read that within the past two days here on FR.

They don't eat fetuses. They do eat dogs, something I refuse to do.

47 posted on 11/10/2002 8:36:32 AM PST by RLK
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To: RLK
>>...Unenforcable in a country that doesn't recognize American law...<<

Yeah. Maybe they can sieze some of their assets in the US.

48 posted on 11/10/2002 8:38:29 AM PST by FReepaholic
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To: willyone
I like your comments. Trade actually weakens the Chicoms as the people will get more and more tastes of freedom. Western diets and movies will make them fat, weak and stupid. Where has Chinese nuclear technology come from? Where has their latest space technology come from? The actual nuts and bolts may be Ruskie, but the cutting edge knowledge to make the stuff work well came from the minions of Bill Clinton - Loral, security relaxations at the DOE, etc. Clinton is the greatest agent the Commies ever had, next to FDR. The Canadian flag has a red, multipointed star on it, cleverly disguised as a Maple Leaf. It doesn't fool me. WalMart is America at its best - by crushing Socialistic/Communist labor unions and making the Chinese economy dependent on exporting cheap Christmas ornaments and garden furniture. There's still many things that are produced in the USA, just not chintzy bric-a-brac. I drive a wonderful American made Toyota and always "buy American" whenever possible.
49 posted on 11/10/2002 8:54:46 AM PST by Gary Boldwater
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To: Piltdown_Woman
I don't see any easy answers...

Well I don't either. However, we can make an investment in a proper border barrier (whatever that is.) That plus much tighter immigration controls will improve the situation tremendously IMO.

50 posted on 11/10/2002 8:55:17 AM PST by toddst
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