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Say Goodnight, Bill
Time Magazine ^ | 11/10/2002 | Margaret Carlson

Posted on 11/11/2002 6:05:43 AM PST by jhouston

A lot has been made of George Bush's victory last week. But while controlling the White House and both houses of Congress is impressive, there was an additional triumph to savor: driving a stake through the Clinton era. Although he wasn't running, Bill Clinton was a major presence, raising funds, campaigning for candidates and generally trying to help his party regain its mojo. Tuesday's vote was a repudiation of his efforts. What's more, last week's rout may well quiet critics who continue to suggest that with help from his brother and the Supreme Court, Bush had stolen the 2000 election from Al Gore. This is Bush Country now.

Clinton compounded his problems at the infamous memorial service for Minnesota Senator Paul Wellstone. There he was, his face blown up on the Jumbotron, cheering and swaying as if he were at Woodstock IV, showing no disapproval then or later over the booing of Republican Senator Trent Lott, who had come to pay his respects. If Jesse Ventura, the ex-wrestler, can credibly take offense and, with impunity, order flags flying at half-mast to be raised early, you know it was unsavory. Here's how Congressman Tom Davis, chairman of the Republican Congressional Committee, summed it up: "Nothing gets Republican voters more hyped up than seeing President Clinton on the tube ... it got our base ginned up."

Coattails? Not on Bill. During the primaries, association with Clinton proved toxic. Three of his former Cabinet members lost. His intervention to help shore up black support for his wife in the New York State primary by getting his former Cabinet Secretary, Andrew Cuomo, out of the race led to one of the most impressive losses of the election. Comptroller Carl McCall lost to Governor George Pataki by 16 percentage points. In North Carolina, former Clinton chief of staff Erskine Bowles wouldn't even let the former Chief Executive visit. Where Clinton did go, candidates like Maryland's Kathleen Kennedy Townsend and Massachusetts' Shannon O'Brien lost. In Florida, where Clinton went to help Bill McBride, who was still within striking distance of Governor Jeb Bush, the ex-President failed decisively to get out the vote. Turnout actually dropped 17% from 1994, the last Democratic gubernatorial win.

Clinton wasn't, of course, the primary reason the Democrats lost, but there's no reason to think he would accept responsibility if he were. At a postelection dinner in his Harlem office, Clinton, his voice hoarse after three red-eye flights, said only that you can't beat a party with a message with a party without one, ignoring the fact that he is the master of blurring the differences, of shaking down the same wealthy donors as the opposition in exchange for a similar nonthreatening agenda.

A parallel shift in the culture suggests that Clinton-era values are no longer America's. Though a baby boomer, Bush rejects the instant-gratification ethic embraced by Clinton, the nation's first baby boomer President. Bush went from party-hearty frat boy to hard liquor­drinking Man in the Gray Flannel Suit (until he shaped up in his 40s) without stopping to dabble in the counterculture or go anywhere in a VW bus. He often laments not being one of the Greatest Generation he so admires (although he was no more up front about not going to Vietnam than was Clinton). Whereas Clinton liked going on MTV with 18-year-olds, Bush urges them and their parents to return to an "era of responsibility."

Clinton revered CEOs; they now appear regularly in televised perp walks. Clinton loved Hollywood; celebrities like Barbra Streisand had his ear and an invitation to the Lincoln Bedroom. Bush doesn't have movie stars over; he's in bed with Laura by 9:30. Hillary Rodham Clinton is the one politician to survive the association with Bill, although at a high personal price. If she decides to run for President, she may want to change her name yet again and become a Rodham once and for all.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; evenmargaretgetsit; funeral; legacy; memorialservice; minnesota
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More Clinton legacy.

The story is headlined with the infamous picture of Bill and Hillary yukking it up with Mondale.

The caption on the picture is;

"KEY MOMENT: Clinton yuks it up at the Wellstone memorial service"

1 posted on 11/11/2002 6:05:43 AM PST by jhouston
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To: jhouston
Wow. Even Margaret is catching on.
2 posted on 11/11/2002 6:13:17 AM PST by martin_fierro
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To: jhouston

J HOLT/MINNEAPOLIS STAR TRIBUNE/ZUMA PRESS

KEY MOMENT: Clinton yuks it up at the Wellstone memorial service

3 posted on 11/11/2002 6:13:50 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: jhouston; Mia T
During the primaries, association with Clinton proved toxic.

Margaret Carlson thinks this is something new?

4 posted on 11/11/2002 6:13:58 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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Why are we not surprised to see Bill yuck it up at a memorial service?

Didn't we see this Clinton laughing when Ron Brown died?

Oh, I forgot, the media didn't want us to see that so most people never did.

5 posted on 11/11/2002 6:14:40 AM PST by 07055
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To: jhouston
And let's hope that we can say goodnight to the other Clintoon barnacles: Carville, Begala, Shrum, etc.
6 posted on 11/11/2002 6:15:02 AM PST by tom paine 2
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To: jhouston
Is this the same Margaret Carlson who was vying for chief suck-up sycophant on the Capital Gang?
Wow.
The worm has turned.
7 posted on 11/11/2002 6:15:48 AM PST by Izzy Dunne
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To: jhouston
Ms. (Buck-tooth) Carlson would gladly lick Clinton's cigar, if she had the chance to, but even she has to admit that the former Pervert in Chief is an albatross around the DumocRATS necks.
8 posted on 11/11/2002 6:16:08 AM PST by jerod
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Hitlery's hair looks hideous LOL did she not get madeover before the funeral?

What comes around always goes around... and the Hitlery witch is sure looking danged evenfuglier nowadays...40 face lifts could not fix.

9 posted on 11/11/2002 6:16:17 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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I can't believe TIME is doing this piece.

This is the leftist liberal way to cast aside and move on to trying to fake the world with a fresh slate of "centrist" YEAH RIGHT! demoncrats.

10 posted on 11/11/2002 6:18:07 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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Wasn't Mondale a centrist dem? He is as dumb as stones to let the Clinton's near him. But then again politically HE THOUGHT they were "it" as they had the hollywood $$$$$$$$$.
11 posted on 11/11/2002 6:19:59 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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All right... Who replaced Margaret Carlson's brain??? This isn't what she told us during all those Clinton years... Somebody file a missing persons report!
12 posted on 11/11/2002 6:21:20 AM PST by DB
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To: 07055

13 posted on 11/11/2002 6:22:13 AM PST by ErnBatavia
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To: jhouston
"Coattails? Not on Bill."

Bill Clinton has coatails made out of the same material that college football jerseys were made of years ago. They were designed to tear away if a tackler grabbed material instead of the runner.

14 posted on 11/11/2002 6:23:22 AM PST by Movemout
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Mondale is centrist if you think Jessie Jackson is right wing... ;-)
15 posted on 11/11/2002 6:23:28 AM PST by DB
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He [Mondale] is as dumb as stones to let the Clinton's near him.

Maybe not.
It's just possible that he DID NOT WANT THE JOB.
But couldn't stand up to the party bigwigs.

16 posted on 11/11/2002 6:26:30 AM PST by Izzy Dunne
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It is something new if it appears in Time. This is a sign that the Rat bosses are dumping Slick Willie.
17 posted on 11/11/2002 6:26:43 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: DB
Was he ever centrist? Even in the good ole days when democrats had some class AKA before Clinton's??? I don't know why I thought he was not so left....
18 posted on 11/11/2002 6:27:09 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Priceless but not surprising.
19 posted on 11/11/2002 6:28:43 AM PST by blackbart1
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To: tom paine 2
Remember how TOWN HALL DEBATE GRASSROOTS WJ CLINTON fooled all in the beginning of his national scene? The dems will just repeat their corruption with new lying faces is all.
20 posted on 11/11/2002 6:28:50 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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