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VOTER FRAUD ARREST TO BE MADE - SD
Mobridge SD Tribune ^ | 11/12/02 | LANA JOHNSON

Posted on 11/12/2002 2:48:59 AM PST by Elkiejg

Becky Red Earth-Villeda, also known as Maka Duta, the Flandreau woman hired by the South Dakota Democratic Party to recruit voters, will be arrested for alleged forgery of absentee ballot applications.

According to Attorney General Mark Barnett, Red Earth-Villeda is suspected of forging the signatures on 500 to 1,000 absentee ballot applications in 25 counties statewide, including Dewey County. She will face the multiple charges in Minnehaha County.

"Maka Duta will be arrested in the ordinary course of events," said Barnett. "No evidence has been obtained that shows she has cast or made an attempt to cast actual ballots."

Red Earth-Villeda was interviewed by investigators extensively on Wednesday, Oct. 30.

Hired as an independent contractor, Red Earth-Villeda was fired by the Democratic Party after it was discovered in early October that two of the people she "registered" were invalid. One such "registration" was discovered by Ziebach County Auditor Cindy Longbrake.

Longbrake received a ballot application for Denise Red Horse. The main problem with the application is that it was dated Sept. 21, 18 days after Red Horse had died in an automobile accident. An application for Red Horse was also received in Dewey County.

Dewey County Auditor Adelle Enright said another application for a deceased woman, Marjorie Clown, was also received by her office.

Currently, there are 30 South Dakota Department of Criminal Investigation agents working on the case.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: rats; thune; votefraud; voterfraud
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I don't buy for a minute the comment "no actual ballots cast" - why did she go to all that trouble if no ballots were cast??? WHERE IS THE RNC IN SUPPORT OF A RECOUNT FOR THUNE??
1 posted on 11/12/2002 2:48:59 AM PST by Elkiejg
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To: Elkiejg
But did those 500-1000 "people" vote? If they did, that would make up the difference Thune needs.
2 posted on 11/12/2002 2:51:32 AM PST by xm177e2
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To: xm177e2; Angelus Errare
Amazing. If "they" did vote, then this woman all by herself gave Johnson the election over Thune. Please oh please tell me that they throw out any and all fraudulent votes. We need Thune in the Senate.

*crosses fingers*
3 posted on 11/12/2002 2:53:48 AM PST by Green Knight
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To: Elkiejg
I believe that the forged ballot applications were detected before the election, so this bunch of ballots, on which the charges were based, were not cast.

However, 30 investigators looks to be a bit more than is necessary to arrest one woman. My guess is that the DOJ is still investigating.

As far as the RNC, they are keeping a low profile on this until it becomes apparent whether enough there were enough fraudulent votes to tip the election. They do not want Thune to appear Gore-ish, insisting on a recount in the hopes that enough votes can be found. That would give us another Florida, only instead of Jesse Jackson we would have demonstrations by Native Americans, which is NOT to be desired.

4 posted on 11/12/2002 2:53:50 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Elkiejg
Sing along with me, now:

"Indian vote lists five miles long,
All the Duta daaaaaaaay....."

<|:)~

6 posted on 11/12/2002 2:56:12 AM PST by martin_fierro
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To: Elkiejg
"The main problem with the application is that it was dated Sept. 21, 18 days after Red Horse had died in an automobile accident. An application for Red Horse was also received in Dewey County."

I'm more concerned about the relatives of Red Horse - Red Cloud and Crazy Horse. Did they vote? How many times?
8 posted on 11/12/2002 2:58:29 AM PST by Schmedlap
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To: inotdeadyet
My hope is Thune asks for a recount in a timely fashion if there is suspected vote fraud. The body is still warm. Also, Landrieu's defeat will make the LA issue irrelevant.
9 posted on 11/12/2002 2:58:42 AM PST by Credo
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To: Elkiejg; All
Cross-link:

-The Vote Fraud Archives--

And FYI--

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/786711/posts
An election scam (Thune - Johnson SD Senate Race)
freelancestar.com ^ | Monday, Nov. 11, 2002
Denise Red Horse, who died in a Sept. 3 car crash, somehow managed to apply for an absentee ballot on Sept. 21--in two different counties. Both applications were mailed from Democratic headquarters...

An election scam (Thune - Johnson SD Senate Race)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/784452/posts
South Dakota Suspicions
The National Review ^ | 11-07-02 | Byron York
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/783850/posts
What happened in Bon Homme Co., S.D.?
CNN ^
 
http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/aberdeennews/4459206.htm

 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/783963/posts
Arrest Expected in Voter Fraud Investigation (South Dakota)
South Dakota Attorney General ^ | 11/01/2002 | Mark Barnett
I just found an article that confirms that the Libertarian candidate DID drop out and DID throw his support to Thune. This minor little item barely made it to local papers, if at all.
http://www.argusleader.com/columnists/dkranz/10_20_02.shtml

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/784111/posts
So Dak More Registered Voters Than Population??
Myself ^ | 10/6/2002 | Myself

Did you hear Rush Say that the Senate will come down to the Dems attempts at Voter Fraud?


Don't think this isn't being reported. There are stories all over the country about it.


11 posted on 11/12/2002 3:06:40 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Elkiejg
According to the state of South Dakota, 100% of registered Native Americans voted. ...maybe more
13 posted on 11/12/2002 3:24:37 AM PST by navigator
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To: inotdeadyet
I believe that voter fraud in an election that results in a Federal seat should result in a genuine zero-tolerance Federal penalty: the Death Penalty.
14 posted on 11/12/2002 3:29:35 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: navigator
According to the state of South Dakota, 100% of registered Native Americans voted. ...maybe more

There you have it. The RNC is hiding when they should be roaring lions.

15 posted on 11/12/2002 3:30:38 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Elkiejg
Thune ought to request a recount simply because he is justified within the political process to do so. He doesn't have to make a big deal of it, screaming Gorisms ("every vote counts," etc.). Because of the tight margin of the voting results, he is perfectly well within the bounds of practicality and election procedures to do so. And then he ought to sit quietly and await the results and, if it turns out negatively, graciously accept the results. I don't see where this will, in any way, effect his political viability or mark him as a poor loser.

And if a recount occurs, it is my hope that massive election fraud perpetrated by the dems is uncovered.
16 posted on 11/12/2002 3:42:50 AM PST by Shenandoah
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To: Elkiejg
Hold it, this is just more white man oppressing the nativehyphenamerican. She was living as one with the birds of the sky and the creatures of the earth when she was recruited to buy...er, uh, cast... um, do something with the ballots. She was exemplifying diversity within the demoncrap party as one of the first nativehyphenamericans to help implement the fraudulent demoncrap agenda. That's all, no need to be concerned, its only fairness.
17 posted on 11/12/2002 3:46:26 AM PST by RushLake
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To: RushLake
She was living as one with the birds of the sky and the creatures of the earth ...

That's because she was actually in the Great Beyond at the time she voted. Well, all right, maybe it was her spirit that voted.

18 posted on 11/12/2002 3:50:50 AM PST by livius
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To: Elkiejg
I think that they needed to have alot of illegal voting, the problem was in order to get enough in to tip the election, they had to show a huge number of indian voters registered between the primary and election day. If they had not, they would look suspect that 80 or 100percent of registered voters turned out for the election. Those numbers won't jive with past percentages or other counties around the state.

If they had not gotten over 10,000 new voters registered, they would only be able to add as many votes as there were current registered voters. They ran into a problem at the end because Thune did so well. In some of the polling places around reservations they are showing almost all registered voters voted--remember they added thousands--and it looks like in one precinct more voters voted than there are eligible voters in the county. Fraud is glaring and I am hoping we hear news in next two weeks of what happens next.
19 posted on 11/12/2002 3:53:28 AM PST by Reb Raider
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To: Elkiejg
With the Republicans in control of Congress now is the time for real election reform. The Democrats have been stealing elections for years and have been in control of 80% or more of all elections in this country that long.
We need real reform. Truth be known we have a lot of offices in this country elected by illegals and those voting more than once and dead people. Lets clean it up while we have the chance.
20 posted on 11/12/2002 3:58:31 AM PST by gunnedah
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To: Miss Marple
I believe that the forged ballot applications were detected before the election, so this bunch of ballots, on which the charges were based, were not cast. However, 30 investigators looks to be a bit more than is necessary to arrest one woman. My guess is that the DOJ is still investigating.

Not only that, but the timing of this arrest looks to me like investigators are encouraging Thune to ask for a recount. If the investigators thought this was no big deal, they would've waited until the deadline had passed before making an arrest it seems to me.

21 posted on 11/12/2002 4:02:18 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: inotdeadyet
and she will do her very best to get re-elected the same way on dec 7th.
22 posted on 11/12/2002 4:06:14 AM PST by cajun-jack
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To: livius
That's because she was actually in the Great Beyond at the time she voted. Well, all right, maybe it was her spirit that voted.

I am more confused than usual. Are the evil white mans going to invade the happy hunting ground to arrest Becky Red Earthhyphenwhatsherface? I need to apologize. I've been apologizing to africanhyphenamerican victims all my life for being white. I guess its ok to apologize to the nativehyphenamericans now too.

23 posted on 11/12/2002 4:06:37 AM PST by RushLake
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To: inotdeadyet
Sen. Mary Landreu made it to office via vote fraud.

Well, yeah, but that's Louisiana.

24 posted on 11/12/2002 4:06:40 AM PST by Skooz
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To: Elkiejg
Someone can tell me if I am wrong, but I don't think this can help Thune in any way. If 10,000 fraudulent voters are found, we can prosecute them, but we cannot "withdraw" the votes because we don't know who they voted for (secret ballot and all that). Similarly, if corrupt election officials allowed illegal voters to vote, we can go after them, but we can't change the vote totals.

I hope they find the illegal voters and the people who let them vote (or voted for them) and put them in jail. Any simple fines would be paid by the DNC, but a legitimate threat of jail time would curb this kind of thing. But I don't see how the election could be challenged at this point due to voter fraud.
25 posted on 11/12/2002 4:09:48 AM PST by TN4Liberty
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To: Elkiejg
the application was dated Sept. 21, 18 days after Red Horse had died

Red Horse slow. Take many day, application arrive.

26 posted on 11/12/2002 4:12:30 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Miss Marple
I agree totally with you on South Dakota-- we are only going to ask for a Recount when we know Thune will win.

Throwing some DemocRATS members of McAuliff's "Get-Out-The-Dead" Task Force-- South Dakota Chapter in jail sounds pretty good to me. Hope that they are doing a VERY THOROUGH investigation.

27 posted on 11/12/2002 4:18:14 AM PST by RobFromGa
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To: TN4Liberty
Most of this fraud is based on paper. Recall that absentee voting has jumped from 5% of the total vote in SD to about 30% of the total vote in SD over the years. Fraudulent votes may be erased from the legitimate total, never mind for whom the vote was cast. A recount merely checks the math and ensures no votes were uncounted. That may not help Thune. Identification of fraudulent votes will help Thune immensely. This may end up in a federal court.
28 posted on 11/12/2002 4:18:42 AM PST by Movemout
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To: Elkiejg
I don't buy for a minute the comment "no actual ballots cast" - why did she go to all that trouble if no ballots were cast??? WHERE IS THE RNC IN SUPPORT OF A RECOUNT FOR THUNE??

I don't buy it either; and I've written already to the RNC, telling them to support a recount due to already known fraud and due to the likely possibility of additional fraud. They haven't responded to my e-mail last week.

29 posted on 11/12/2002 4:22:52 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I think that the penalties for Vote Fraud should very long for the individuals involved, AND that the Party, IF LINKED TO THE FRAUD, should have to sit out the Post-Season for the next two years, and also forced to change leadership.
30 posted on 11/12/2002 4:23:25 AM PST by RobFromGa
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To: Miss Marple
I think your absolutely right. No reason to be gorish.
31 posted on 11/12/2002 4:24:27 AM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: Elkiejg
As someone said here on FR a couple of weeks ago: "If voting worked, it would be outlawed."

32 posted on 11/12/2002 4:53:45 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Elkiejg
Thune asking for a recount won't necessarily change the numbers. What is needed is a match of cast ballots to living bodies in those two or three areas. By the way, why is the fraud just showing up on indian reservations?
33 posted on 11/12/2002 4:57:02 AM PST by ampat
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To: Elkiejg; diotima
bump
34 posted on 11/12/2002 4:57:12 AM PST by bert
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To: Elkiejg
What is Johnson's pronouncement on all these suspicious voting patterns? Have the media taking the adversarial position and in asking him appropriate questions? Or is he getting and taking a free pass?

On a larger scale, is there an institutional bias in the media in favor of more registration over accurate (non-fraudulent) registration? (Hmm, guess the answer to this one is obvious...)

35 posted on 11/12/2002 5:18:01 AM PST by SteveH
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To: RobFromGa
I think that the penalties for Vote Fraud should very long for the individuals involved, AND that the Party, IF LINKED TO THE FRAUD, should have to sit out the Post-Season for the next two years, and also forced to change leadership.

You're right. Actions such as these make the Democratic Party a criminal enterprise...hardly fit to lead anything but a chain gang...but of course they would find a way to corrupt that too.

36 posted on 11/12/2002 5:23:03 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Elkiejg
why did she go to all that trouble if no ballots were cast???

Because the DNC pays a bounty for each application completed.

37 posted on 11/12/2002 5:41:16 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: backhoe
I have run the subject of vote fraud in South Dakota through GoogleNews. There is an interesting split. The in-state papers all say, as does this article, that the fraud did not affect the election. The out-of-state papers all say the opposite.

Denial, in short, is the defense mode within the state. But if South Dakota officials are not willing or able to get to the bottom of this and produce honest and reliable results from their election, the US Senate can do the job for them. The Senate has the power to refuse Johnson and seat Thune because of corruption in the S.D. election, regardless of whether S.D. ignores the corruption and claims that Johnson was the winner.

Congressman Billybob

"to Restore Trust in America"

38 posted on 11/12/2002 5:44:21 AM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: Shenandoah
And if a recount occurs, it is my hope that massive election fraud perpetrated by the dems is uncovered.

I believe that there was to be an automatic recount since the vote totals were so close.

39 posted on 11/12/2002 5:58:41 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Congressman Billybob
Appreciate your comments and link... this?

The Senate has the power to refuse Johnson and seat Thune because of corruption in the S.D. election, regardless of whether S.D. ignores the corruption and claims that Johnson was the winner.

Jarred loose some half-forgotten lessons from school long ago. Let's hope they will do the right thing.

40 posted on 11/12/2002 6:00:39 AM PST by backhoe
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To: TN4Liberty
If those 10,000 were in the pricincts that voted 94-6 for Johnson the election is overturned.
41 posted on 11/12/2002 6:01:49 AM PST by CPT Clay
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To: TN4Liberty
Absentee votes come in two envelopes. The outside one identifies the voter, so he/she can be identified on the voter rolls. So, with those votes it IS possible to identify the fraudulent vote.

In person voters cannot be sorted out. However, if it is shown that 9% of the votes in Glotz County were fraudulent, there IS a remedy. Say the total vote in Glotz was 4,000, with 2,800 for Johnson and 1,200 for Thune, a net gain to Johnson of 1,600 votes. The 9% fraud means 360 bad votes.

Odds are, those are all Democrat votes, but that cannot be proven, given the secret ballot. So the remedy cannot be just to subtract 360 from Johnson's total. However, if the 360 is subtracted from the whole County total, it drops to 3,640. Hold the Johnson-Thune ratio constant from Glotz County, and the votes become 2,558 for Johnson and 1,092 for Thune, for a net gain to Johnson of 1,466.

So the correction for fraud in Glotz County would drop Johnson's net margin by 134 votes. Do the same thing in all the counties where fraud is established, and Thune wins -- either in the S.D. recount, or in the US Senate recount in January.

Congressman Billybob

"to Restore Trust in America"

42 posted on 11/12/2002 6:06:30 AM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: bert
Thanks for the heads up!
43 posted on 11/12/2002 6:09:01 AM PST by diotima
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To: inotdeadyet
My hope is Thune asks for a recount in a timely fashion if there is suspected vote fraud.

If???

Vote fraud is never irrelevant.

Thanks for you comments. I agree with you. One, I posted before thinking. My problem is not with the concept of resisting vote fraud - it's with the application of it. The Republicans in the Thune case are walking a fine line. They need some ironclad evidence of vote fraud if they're going to attempt to overturn the apparent results of an election. Not only do they need to be able to move this through a court, but they need to get their message out through the media that the democrats routinely commit election fraud. Someone a lot smarter than me has to navigate Thune through the gate of public opinion. If he doesn't do this right, it could really look bad.

The relevance quote was in relationship to the Landrieu race. I recognize that she is in office primarily due to vote fraud. This is because the Republicans wimped out in 1996. If Terrel wins convincingly, any democratic vote fraud would be rendered irrelevant but it still needs to be investigated & pronto.

44 posted on 11/12/2002 6:10:40 AM PST by Credo
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To: Vic3O3; cavtrooper21
Voter fraud ping!
45 posted on 11/12/2002 6:10:43 AM PST by dd5339
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To: Elkiejg
It is obvious that the left-wing liberal press feels that Wynona Ryder shop-lifting some wearing apparell is far more important than Minnie Ha ha stealing an election. The penalties for vote fraud should be dealt with harshly.
46 posted on 11/12/2002 6:16:19 AM PST by Temple Owl
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To: Elkiejg
Marjorie Clown

Maka Duta filed a fake application for Marjorie Clown?

I thought Maka Duta was a pretty funny name to begin with, but she found one even better. Beats registering Fido Dog or Trixie Cat, I guess.

47 posted on 11/12/2002 6:21:55 AM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: Reb Raider
If wide spread voter fraud is found, the only thing that can be done is to throw out the votes of the entire districts involved. There is no way that a number of ballots can be eliminated from the vote total.

How can you distinguish who voted for who? Ballots do not have names on them. Its against the law.

It is a lost cause as far as Thune is concerned. What we need to do now is to investigate how wide spread this voter fraud is, who was involved and prosecute them to the full extent of the law.

However, due to them being Native Americans, they will get a pass. Mark my word on that.

48 posted on 11/12/2002 6:23:46 AM PST by rstevens
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To: Elkiejg
If they discovered 500 to 1,000 phony signatures in South Daokata alone, just imagine how many they haven't caught everywhere else.
49 posted on 11/12/2002 6:26:43 AM PST by jpl
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To: jpl
The above should read "South Dakota".
50 posted on 11/12/2002 6:27:06 AM PST by jpl
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