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Researchers say red wine reduces risk of Alzheimer's Disease - Beer doubles risk
AFP via Babelfish translation ^ | November 12, 2002

Posted on 11/12/2002 10:20:34 AM PST by HAL9000

The red wine reduced the risks of insanity, the beer increases these risks

Tuesday November 12, 2002 - 16h39 GMT

WASHINGTON, Nov. 12 (AFP) - To regularly drink red wine reduced of more than half the risks of insanity while the beer has the opposite effect, doubling the probabilities of being touched in particular by the disease of Alzheimer, according to a study carried out in Denmark and published Tuesday in the United States.

"These results are interesting because they could mean that certain substances of the wine reduce the supervening of the insanity", the author of the study thought, Dr. Thomas Truelsen, by considering "the development of treatments or methods of prevention based on these substances".

"That does not want to say that people must start to drinking wine or drinking some more", nevertheless Dr. Truelsen informed, whose study is published in the Neurology review.

The researchers under the direction of Dr. Truelsen, of the Institute of preventive medicine in Kommunehospitalet of Copenhagen, put forth the assumption that the flavonoïdes, a natural antioxydant present in the red wine, could be the source of this beneficial effect on the risks of insanity.

On the other hand, the Danish researchers noted that the occasional beer consumption was associated at the increased risk to be touched by the insanity. Among the participants in the study, those which consumed beer each month presented twice more risks to be touched than those which drank any never or very seldom.

For this study, the doctors recorded the drink practices of 1.709 inhabitants of Copenhagen in the Seventies. In the Nineties, they controlled these people of more than 65 years to obtain statistics on the frequency of the insanity affecting this group. In twenty years, 83 participants were struck of insanity.

One of the limits of the study is the absence of taking into account of the diet of the participants, underlined the neurologist John Brust of Harlem Hospital Center in New York, in a leading article published in the same review, while being appropriate that "it is a study showing that there is something of specifically beneficial in the wine".

Other research "suggests that the wine drinkers have food practices better than the beer drinkers and strong alcohols", pointed out Dr. Brust. "Certain results also show that the vitamin E can reduce the risks to develop the disease of Alzheimer. These factors were not taken into account in the study ", it added.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alzheimersdisease; beer; insanity; oenology; wine; zymurgy
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1 posted on 11/12/2002 10:20:34 AM PST by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
OK, so that means I have to drink two glasses of red wine for every beer, just to stay even. I can live with that.
2 posted on 11/12/2002 10:21:41 AM PST by r9etb
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To: HAL9000
My math says that if I drink twice as much wine as beer, they offset each other???? Wheeeeee
3 posted on 11/12/2002 10:22:16 AM PST by cynicom
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To: r9etb
r9

Brilliant minds think alike.

4 posted on 11/12/2002 10:23:21 AM PST by cynicom
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To: HAL9000
Does anyone else find it a little odd that the article is printed in French?
5 posted on 11/12/2002 10:24:17 AM PST by Destructor
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To: HAL9000
Everything else aside...I pity the poor souls in the control group!
6 posted on 11/12/2002 10:24:56 AM PST by steve in DC
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To: r9etb
Just be sure to also drink a lot of coffee because that's healthy too.
7 posted on 11/12/2002 10:25:02 AM PST by FITZ
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To: r9etb
Beer causes dementia; wine prevents it. Beer makes you fat; wine makes you thin. Folks just have to get over this beer thing! (Paid for by Citizens for Cheap Wine in Grocery Stores)
8 posted on 11/12/2002 10:25:50 AM PST by Tax-chick
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To: HAL9000
"Hold muh ... um ... uh ..."
9 posted on 11/12/2002 10:26:46 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: mhking
hold my .... uh, I forget
10 posted on 11/12/2002 10:26:46 AM PST by fnord
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To: HAL9000
I've already forgotten what I just read....must...have....wine.....
11 posted on 11/12/2002 10:28:15 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; FreedomPoster; Timesink; AntiGuv; ...
"Hold muh beer 'n watch this!" PING....

If you want on or off this list, please let me know!

12 posted on 11/12/2002 10:28:48 AM PST by mhking
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To: Mr. Bird
Read, read wine.... stay close to meeeee!!!
13 posted on 11/12/2002 10:29:28 AM PST by JAWs
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To: HAL9000
Burp. Uh, I mean BUMB.
14 posted on 11/12/2002 10:33:59 AM PST by hillsborofox
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To: HAL9000
Is Mad Dog 20/20 considered a "wine product"?
15 posted on 11/12/2002 10:35:52 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: HAL9000
Sheesh, I can't remember what I was going to say....pass me muh beer please.
16 posted on 11/12/2002 10:38:05 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: gov_bean_ counter
No. More like a wino product.
17 posted on 11/12/2002 10:38:54 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: HAL9000
But what about whisky, or sterno juice, or gasoline, or...?
18 posted on 11/12/2002 10:39:00 AM PST by Vidalia
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To: FreedomPoster
Good answer!!
19 posted on 11/12/2002 10:39:56 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: HAL9000
...beer increases these risks

I'm doomed.

20 posted on 11/12/2002 10:40:06 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Vidalia
But what about whisky, or sterno juice, or gasoline, or...?

or dirty bath water.

21 posted on 11/12/2002 10:40:44 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: HAL9000
consumed beer each month presented twice more risks to be touched than those which drank any never or very seldom.

That would be Irish Alzheimers. We never forget our grudges:)

22 posted on 11/12/2002 10:43:45 AM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: FreedomPoster
But according to the study, they are more likely to remain sane. Maybe the winos have been sneaking beer on the side. Could be the formaldehyde in the Mad-Dog though.
23 posted on 11/12/2002 10:53:54 AM PST by Jaded
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Is Mad Dog 20/20 considered a "wine product"?

No more than Boones Farm

24 posted on 11/12/2002 10:54:26 AM PST by NC Conservative
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To: HAL9000
The interesting thing about this is that it must be something in the wine, and the beer, other than the alcohol, which determines these effects. Find out what it is, and avoid the, presumably, bad stuff in beer, and take supplements of the, presuably, good stuff in wine. Although a small amount of ethanol seems to be good for you also.

25 posted on 11/12/2002 10:57:12 AM PST by El Gato
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To: mhking
(hiccup) I'd like to propose a toast.........now, if I could only remember where I put my booze
26 posted on 11/12/2002 11:08:00 AM PST by Dallas
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To: El Gato
Good observation. Since the study points to red wines, and not white, my first guess would be tannins in the grape skins, since red must is fermented with the grapes before pressing (allow everything in the skin and pulp to soak into the must), and white must is fermented after pressing (which occurs right after crushing for whites).

Also, wort is boiled, then chilled, prior to fermentation. Must is not, and it is fermented alot longer (and slower) than wort.

Wine also contains a higher proportion of sulphites, but if it was sulphites, it shouldn't matter wether its red or white.

Could also be that fruit and fruit products are better than grain and grain products.
27 posted on 11/12/2002 11:22:07 AM PST by jae471
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To: El Gato
it must be something in the wine

It might be the demographics of wine drinkers vs. beer drinkers causing the difference. For example, if you study cigar smokers you will find that they live longer than non-cigar smokers. It isn't a substance in the cigar, it's that cigar smokers tend to be wealthier and can afford a more relaxed lifestyle with better health care.

28 posted on 11/12/2002 11:23:58 AM PST by Reeses
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To: HAL9000
[sigh]

Once again worthless junk offered up as science via the abuse of statistics.

It could just as easily be said "Living in Sweden causes a 4.8% chance of going insane."

There is a huge difference between associative elements (things are are related) and elements that are cause. This smells of a researcher looking to drum up support for more grant money.
29 posted on 11/12/2002 11:23:59 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: HAL9000
I think Homer said it best....

http://www.eventsounds.com/wav/notvbeer.wav
30 posted on 11/12/2002 11:30:59 AM PST by Baraboo Law Jr.
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To: HAL9000
Merci!
31 posted on 11/12/2002 11:32:11 AM PST by SwinneySwitch
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To: HAL9000
Beer causes insanity?

Beer goggles pretty much proves that research.

32 posted on 11/12/2002 11:39:56 AM PST by hattend
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To: Destructor
Makes you wonder if the Germans will bring out an article saying beer makes you smarter and wine causes insanity.
33 posted on 11/12/2002 11:41:58 AM PST by tdadams
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To: HAL9000
This is pure garbage. I know oldsters (over 80) , some that drink Early Times whiskey every day, and some that don't drink any alcohol. It's up to the individual genes!!
34 posted on 11/12/2002 11:43:14 AM PST by timestax
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To: HAL9000
So does red wine actually reduce the risk of Alzheimer's or has the drinking of red wine been correlated with a lower instance of Alzheimer's? Big difference - correlation does not imply causation.
35 posted on 11/12/2002 11:55:21 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Destructor
Hey, the French aren't wine producers, are they? No conflict here...

Does anyone else find it a little odd that the article is printed in French?

36 posted on 11/12/2002 11:56:44 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: fnord
"Holdez-vous mon merlot" is the phrase I believe you're looking for.
37 posted on 11/12/2002 11:59:11 AM PST by Norman Conquest
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To: timestax
Wine makes you "laid back" beer makes you "rowdy" most of the stories that we find funny on this list, involve beer drinkers. One could say on the outside looking/watching how it would seem beer drinkers are touched with the insanity.
38 posted on 11/12/2002 12:06:41 PM PST by Thisiswhoweare
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To: HAL9000
"Hold my beer. Pass the Merlot."
39 posted on 11/12/2002 12:10:20 PM PST by nonsporting
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To: tdadams
I'd look for it any day now.(chuckle)
40 posted on 11/12/2002 12:11:46 PM PST by Destructor
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To: Non-Sequitur
I'm doomed.

Alzheimers??????? Is that when you forget where you set your last beer, so you just go get another one?

I think I may have it.

41 posted on 11/12/2002 12:11:57 PM PST by Ditto
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To: timestax
Personally, I am following the drink of George Burns and the late Queen Mother.

Gin martinis, 2 every day. Worked great for them!

42 posted on 11/12/2002 12:12:27 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: r9etb
OK, so that means I have to drink two glasses of red wine for every beer, just to stay even. I can live with that.

If I drank two glasses of red wind and a beer, I doubt if I'd notice the Babelfishy translation.

43 posted on 11/12/2002 12:34:10 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: HAL9000
Drink Beer...

And you can meet new friends everyday...sometimes two and three times a day.

And you can hide your own Easter eggs.

44 posted on 11/12/2002 12:40:54 PM PST by N. Theknow
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To: gov_bean_ counter
or dirty bath water.

Who's in the shower? Seriesly?

45 posted on 11/12/2002 12:54:09 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Reeses; El Gato
It might be the demographics of wine drinkers vs. beer drinkers causing the difference.

This was exactly my first thought upon reading the thread title. Unless they stringently controlled for lifestyle and demographic factors, this study is junk science with a capital JUNK.

46 posted on 11/12/2002 1:04:11 PM PST by Mr. Silverback
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To: RadioAstronomer; longshadow; PatrickHenry
Uh oh, some of us may be in trouble.
47 posted on 11/12/2002 1:07:27 PM PST by Aracelis
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To: Piltdown_Woman
Alzheimer's Disease - Beer doubles risk

Damn, I forgot what I was gonna say.

48 posted on 11/12/2002 1:23:42 PM PST by San Jacinto
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To: Piltdown_Woman
oh, crap, wine gives me heart burn, and I love my beer.
I am going to , uh forgot what I was.....
49 posted on 11/12/2002 1:25:47 PM PST by vin-one
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To: HAL9000

50 posted on 11/12/2002 1:30:52 PM PST by realpatriot71
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