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This is why we Homeschool our children
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Posted on 11/14/2002 8:11:46 AM PST by chris_in_nj

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To: laurav
Do you have any recommendations of good articles on the anti-intellectualism in schools? I will read all the threads you posted, but that's my main interest, and I'm not sure where to start.

Do a search for John Taylor Gatto and/or Charlotte Iserbyt. That will give you all the info you need.

21 posted on 11/14/2002 9:36:51 AM PST by Lizavetta
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To: chris_in_nj
In the end, experts say it's the system that suffers.

You gotta be kidding me.

22 posted on 11/14/2002 9:42:58 AM PST by WriteOn
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To: chris_in_nj
I fear the compulsory, authoritarian, and ineffective public school monopoly on education is the heart of the problem. Whenever people have someone else to hold responsible for their own failings, they will do so -- that is simple human nature. The solution is obvious -- return the full responsibility, including financial, for education to parents and take it away from government.

Democratic government works best when people do things for themselves and their own children -- that is what helps them to become competent, responsible citizens. Churches and other non-profit entities could step in to educate those who are unable to purchase education as they did before state funding of education. We might need tax-funded vouchers for the poorest children on a temporary basis to stimulate the development of more private schools.

We now have over 100 years experience with a mandatory, Government school monopoly and the results are in: it has failed students and society and is responsible for weakening every civic virtue needed for a people to be able to govern themselves. It is time to dump government schools and for citizens to take back this very important activity. Tocqueville wrote about how citizens cooperating to take care of this type of need was the real engine of democratic governance.

23 posted on 11/14/2002 9:43:20 AM PST by politeia
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To: homeschool mama
As parents we have a responsibility to educate and raise our children how we see fit. That is why we homeschool.

Ditto!

24 posted on 11/14/2002 9:48:42 AM PST by cruiserman
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To: laurav
Start with John Holt's books.
25 posted on 11/14/2002 9:50:11 AM PST by cruiserman
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To: laurav
Here's some additional information
Lexington Institute

NonPartisan Action For a Better Redding

Quality of Education Commentary, Opinion, and Book Reviews

I will read all the threads you posted, but that's my main interest, and I'm not sure where to start.
There are HUNDREDS of links (within links) in my reply #6. There are articles that address the anti-intellectualism in schools. The book, "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" (Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt's, is an enormous tome of information on this country's education chaos.

Though I cannot, at the present time, locate my web link for the 'Writings of Robert (Bob) Holland", his articles on education's conditions are recommended. He is now affiliated with the Lexington Institute. It would be worthwhile exercise to do an internet search for his articles.


26 posted on 11/14/2002 9:54:21 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: chris_in_nj
Teachers truly are finding themselves between a rock and a hard place. On one hand, they're being told to raise standards by school boards. On the other, parents are asking them not to be too hard on their kids.

We homeschool, even though hubby has been a public high school teacher for 37 years. He'll be retiring in 2 years, if he can hold out that long. He teaches US and world history. The school district has dumbed down the books over the years like you would not believe. The current world history book devotes 70 pages to anything prior to 1600 and 500 pages for everything after. There are more words devoted to the attire of Louis XIV than there are to the Reformation. The US history book is just as bad. It is called something like The Americans ... From Reconstruction to Today. 10% of the book devoted to Civil War and before; 90% to Reconstruction and forward.

Last year he was in a protracted argument with the administration over the grade EARNED (earned, mind you!!) by one girl in his class. She EARNED a B+, primarily because she turned in a project late because she was on a long weekend skiing trip. Her parents demanded that she be allowed to do extra work to bring her grade up to an A. It was ugly, and in the end, she got her A.

27 posted on 11/14/2002 10:16:48 AM PST by RightField
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To: homeschool mama
Blessings and more blessings upon you and all homeschoolers.
28 posted on 11/14/2002 10:34:15 AM PST by Hila
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To: biblewonk
'Educators worry that these suits may force teachers to "dumb down" their curriculum'

... faster than they otherwise would have.

29 posted on 11/14/2002 11:35:19 AM PST by newgeezer
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To: fishtank
I think we need to divide into two countries, liberal and conservative. We are hopelessly divided and we might as well admit it and move on.
30 posted on 11/14/2002 12:35:16 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: Slyfox
You don't really want an answer to that. Some of were actually able to read when we came out.
31 posted on 11/14/2002 2:10:24 PM PST by sparkydragon
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To: Gorzaloon
parents will be punished when their unemployable offspring live with and off them _forever_.

No, they'll do just like their parents and get a check from the government containing money taken at gunpoint from you and I.

32 posted on 11/14/2002 2:15:00 PM PST by MrB
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To: RightField
Funny, I know of something like that that happened to someone I know. She turned in her project a day late, and was told that there were no exceptions, but finally convinced the teacher to grant an exception because she missed more than half the class (and therefore was technically absent) because she slept in late. This was so that she could be in the top 12 of our class.
33 posted on 11/14/2002 2:19:33 PM PST by sparkydragon
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To: sparkydragon
We tried. Now look what's happened.
34 posted on 11/14/2002 2:20:21 PM PST by sparkydragon
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35 posted on 11/16/2002 7:25:51 AM PST by day10
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To: chris_in_nj
Bump for later...
36 posted on 11/17/2002 9:18:54 PM PST by multitaskmom
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