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Remember the recent fuss in a Florida school over a teacher who used the word "niggardly"?

Deja vu all over again.

1 posted on 11/18/2002 10:57:58 AM PST by marshmallow
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2 posted on 11/18/2002 10:59:06 AM PST by mhking
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That's the price Nick and his parents, Dennis and Regina Hurshman, say they have been paying since September when they sued St. Mary's and the Diocese of Charleston.

Evidently these parents believe that lawsuits are just another form of state lottery and should not be taken personally by the people whose money they want lawyers to steal for them.

3 posted on 11/18/2002 11:01:11 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: marshmallow
Geesh, I wonder if this kid refrains from listening to Eminem or Rap or whatever, he should be careful, he might hear worse words than "negroid". And I certainly hope he doesn't drink "Negra Modela" beer, nor his father!

How dare the Hispanics use the word "Negra"???
4 posted on 11/18/2002 11:08:38 AM PST by evolved_rage
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To: marshmallow
The parents made that decision when they decided to have kids. The options of the outcome were, in addition to the sex, black, white or, most likely, somewhere in between. Did they expect people not to notice? Is the complaint that the kid was simply misidentified by someone who was not an expert? If there was any harm done to the child it was because the parents failed to prepare him for that likely circumstance.
5 posted on 11/18/2002 11:10:56 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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Wasn't Florida. I'm sorry to say it was my home state of NC.
6 posted on 11/18/2002 11:11:51 AM PST by mommybain
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much ado about nothin IMO but hey anything to sue right

I liked this one, "They have stolen Nick's right to establish his own identity"

I think I'll be a female Japanese alligator wrestler for the rest of the day. hocus pocus - it be so...
7 posted on 11/18/2002 11:17:46 AM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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How can this case have standing if the child and his mommy and daddy don't sue rappers as well? The rappers use the the only form of the word that is truly offensive, and they get a free ride. I don't get it!
8 posted on 11/18/2002 11:18:55 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: marshmallow
The term comes from the theory that races developed in certain regions of the world. That theory said "Caucasoids" were from Europeans, "Mongoloids" from Asia and "Negroids" from Africa, south of the Sahara Desert.

If this 'theorey' is so wrong, and people may be sued for using this classification; why do companies ask me to fill a form out (voluntarily, right??) stating my race as being either Caucasian, Asian, Black, Hispanic or Other?

Besides, wasn't the teacher demonstrating a FACT? Saying that Mary appears Asian, Jeff looks Caucasian, Jamahl may be Arabic and Ken is likely Negroid is not an insult. It's observable fact.

10 posted on 11/18/2002 11:24:44 AM PST by Hodar
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From Merriam-Webster Online

Main Entry: ne·groid
Pronunciation: 'nE-"groid
Function: adjective
Usage: often capitalized
Date: 1859
: of, resembling, related to, or characteristic of the Negro race
- negroid noun, often capitalized

 

Sounds like a perfectly legitimate descriptor of the child, given his parentage.

11 posted on 11/18/2002 11:24:51 AM PST by Tree of Liberty
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It is down right sad and appalling how dumbed down the "educated" American politically correct parent has become.

This is one of those Frivolous Law Suits a proper judge would and should throw out of court. Mr. and Mrs. Hurshman owe both school and teacher an apology. I am so sorry for their son as he is who he is and what he is and rather than run from it, should be made proud of it. The parents are the ones harming the boy.

12 posted on 11/18/2002 11:26:09 AM PST by yoe
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The word "Negroid" came up during a lesson on the migration of people to North America.

In the 18th and 19th century, European anthropologists used "Negroid" as part of a system of human racial classification.

The term comes from the theory that races developed in certain regions of the world. That theory said "Caucasoids" were from Europeans, "Mongoloids" from Asia and "Negroids" from Africa, south of the Sahara Desert. Nick said he usually checks "other" when filling out information about his race because he doesn't consider himself either black or white.

"I'm tan," he said.

Someone needs to explain to the family that both of these designations are correct. In reference to the historical "Negroid", the teacher was giving the correct information. However, the boy is correct in saying that he is "tan", as "black" and "white" are misnomers when applied to skin color. My 5 year old bi-racial son has also stated that he's "tan" and it seems obvious to him and everyone else in the family that this is correct. I don't belive the teacher used good judgement in pointing out any pupil as an example. However, an apology from the teacher seems the appropriate response. The other families are right in distancing themselves from this family in light of the obvious attempt to strike it rich with the lawsuit. Kind of makes you wonder what they would want to do if their son had been called a "mulatto"?

13 posted on 11/18/2002 11:28:06 AM PST by asformeandformyhouse
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"Remember the recent fuss in a Florida school over a teacher who used the word "niggardly"?

I remember some blacks made a big fuss when someone in the U.S. government used the word "niggardly" in a budget document, as I recall. These folks should lighten up and invest in a dictionary.

14 posted on 11/18/2002 11:29:35 AM PST by lstanle
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While Negroid is not, IMO, any more a racist word that Caucasiod, I would like to know the context in which the teacher used that word.
17 posted on 11/18/2002 11:40:40 AM PST by Dimensio
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People like Nick should be able to identify with one race or as many as they wish, Graham said.

I think I have a very small amount of native american blood in me. Does that mean I can live tax free and leech money off of taxpayers too? My skin is white, but I am a mixture of Swedish, German, English and who-knows-what-else. Funny... I just consider myself to be an American. When is being a plain old American going to pay off for me? Though I feel sorry this young man was reportedly offended and "hurt" by his misunderstanding of the word and the label applied to him, this is another case of people being too darned sensitive for their own good. They all need to get over it and move on.

I believe everything would have been fine had the parents had a talk with the teacher, a talk with their son, and settled the misunderstanding. Instead, they chose to make this a huge issue which probably hurt their son more than the teacher's remark.

18 posted on 11/18/2002 11:42:44 AM PST by SaveTheChief
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The parents wanted the teacher fired. Nothing less than that would have been acceptable, and probably that wouldn't have been sufficient if the kid's self esteem remained depressed. . Definitely lose-lose for the school. Its now up to a below-average intelligence jury pool to sort this out.
21 posted on 11/18/2002 11:44:00 AM PST by Nonstatist
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"I knew since the day Nick was born that there was going to be some kind of racial incident," Dennis Hurshman said. "But I never expected it to occur in a Catholic classroom."

It sounds to me like this father was bound and determined that somewhere, someone, at sometime was going to be a racist and spent 14 years waiting for the "incident" to happen. Almost like willing it into existance so he could point his finger and scream discrimination. Wonder what kind of $$ their asking for in their lawsuit....

25 posted on 11/18/2002 11:51:30 AM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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In the 18th and 19th century, European anthropologists used "Negroid" as part of a system of human racial classification.

They still do. I took a forensic anthropology course at Colorado State University in the mid 1990s. The textbook that was used for bone identification listed the three distinct types of skulls as "Negroid," "Mongoloid" and "Caucasoid."

27 posted on 11/18/2002 12:01:21 PM PST by Drew68
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If his friends since kindergarten didn't come to the party because of the use of that word, they must not have been very good friends. Also, since when do kids that age care what the teacher has to say?
28 posted on 11/18/2002 12:08:24 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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"Aselage said the diocese attempted in "good faith, in every way humanly possible, to listen, investigate and resolve this matter." But April Sampson, the Hurshmans' attorney, said she called diocesan attorneys five times and sent four letters seeking to mediate the dispute, but never got a response."

What was there to mediate? A teacher made an insensitive remark in good faith and intended no offense. The schoold investigated, probably told the teacher to be more careful in the future, and apologised. Case closed. There was nothing else to mediate by the school - the family just thought they were entitled to money for nothing. And if this caused the kid the problems the parents are alleging, then he's got a lot more probems than can be caused by an unfortunate remark by a teacher.

29 posted on 11/18/2002 12:14:10 PM PST by joebuck
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I'll bet the teacher who said this is getting used to the word *sshole".
30 posted on 11/18/2002 12:17:28 PM PST by pabianice
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