Posted on 11/19/2002 7:22:47 PM PST by spycatcher
No, I know what you're talking about. You're creeped out. I'm not. I said so because these threads look terrible to a lot of normal people. You can't accept that I have a different opinion. I do a lot of things that creep out the puritan wing of FR. I go to bars and drink beer (Oh the horror)! I like pop/rock music. I like women that like to look sexy. A lot of FR puritans are creeped out by these likes and that's fine, different strokes for different folks. I've had some FR puritans say they can never be my friend because the beer thing. That's fine, I'm particular about my friends too, they can't be too self-righteous. We all have different standards. Maybe you believe alcohol and rock music is the tool of the devil. Maybe you think women who like to show off a little as being poossessed, I don't know. That's your standard. My standard for humor doesn't include false incest implications of particular people, nor am I offended by daughters who are reaxed with their fathers as Gore's daughter may be and as the female freeper I quoted in post #114 is. I let my opinion be known because no one else on my side did. You can't let it go. You're deeply offended that my standard for humor isn't the same as yours and since it's not the same you say I'm a stiff. Ask my friends if I'm a stiff.
Political image-making to make him appear sexy for young women is one thing, but this is way out there. I have no doubt his other daughter/advisor not in the photo was directing the "love shot" for the cameraman. Hey, they make the image, we deliver the punch line.
Yes, it's extreme in it's fakery but not wrong in it's pose in my opinion.
She's from Ireland, and you two are pretty much alone in the wilderness on this. I've sent the photo by itself to many people without the added humor and just like on the thread here 90% say "not appropriate" in American culture. And we all know what that means. The grown daughter is in what would be a position of sexual tension. In Ireland that may not be the case. Hey, some cultures see no problem with two hetero men holding hands and kissing on the lips as a greeting. But that's them.
When a politician puts out images to tell a story about his loving sexiness and screws it up, he should be prepared for jokes. Same with Angelina Jolie and her "innocent" brotherly love in the public eye. Everything may be completely on the up and up with all involved, but we have every right to comment on the sexual messages that are being sent relative to our cultural norms. If you don't understand it, that's OK with me. Just understand that you may not be as perceptive of the appropriateness of sexual messages as others. And once again, nobody is alleging anything sexual is actually in fact going on with the Jolies or the Gores...it's probably just french kissing ;) Sorry, I know you don't laugh -- that joke was for others.
You were attacked pretty vehemently by her and another poster on the first thread and pretty quickly. You didn't respond much. The reason you're not here is because you labeled it a caption thread. However this thread is not a caption thread since more posts are serious than are captions. All I did was say I think everyone is over-reacting since the thread turned so serious. Ireland is about the most conservative nation in Europe, by the way. I don't think that something like relaxing with a father would be a cultural difference between us.
I've sent the photo by itself to many people without the added humor and just like on the thread here 90% say "not appropriate" in American culture. And we all know what that means. The grown daughter is in what would be a position of sexual tension.
[sigh] Oh boy. Well, like I said, I disagree and I said so and I think it's important to show more than one point of view on things like this so that lurkers and independants can get a better view of conservative thought. I don't see anything wrong with that picture.
In Ireland that may not be the case. Hey, some cultures see no problem with two hetero men holding hands and kissing on the lips as a greeting. But that's them.
Like in San Fran? Ireland isn't Greece.
When a politician puts out images to tell a story about his loving sexiness and screws it up, he should be prepared for jokes.
Jokes on it's fakery maybe. Falsely implying incest is something I'd never do to a particular person.
Same with Angelina Jolie and her "innocent" brotherly love in the public eye. Everything may be completely on the up and up with all involved, but we have every right to comment on the sexual messages that are being sent relative to our cultural norms.
I don't know about that, morally. The bible speaks against gossip. It's a judgment call and I don't even know who Jolie is so I don't know the details. I would guess that this picture doesn't rise to the degree of that situation.
If you don't understand it, that's OK with me. Just understand that you may not be as perceptive of the appropriateness of sexual messages as others.
And you can be aware that you may be seeing things that don't exist.
And once again, nobody is alleging anything sexual is actually in fact going on with the Jolies or the Gores...it's probably just french kissing ;) Sorry, I know you don't laugh -- that joke was for others.
I laugh all the time at real humor.
Yeah,I read it. The question is did YOU read it? If you did and you still stand by it,one of us doesn't understand what "tension" means.
I think you missed the point behind that staged photo. It wasn't to make him seem sexy,it was to make him seem like a loving family man.
Karenna is constantly trying to Alpha-male sexualize him (for the voters of course).
I still don't see the problem. A young woman knows what other young women like. It's politics.
You are a freak.
The point is that his daughter's near obsessive involvement in her father's sexuality and virility are very public.
This is the first I've heard of it. Even so, if that's what her role is in his campaign, then that's what she does. It shouldn't mean anything else.
Did I mention you are a freak?
The daughter is kinda cute
Yeah but you can bet her brain is miswired. Would take half a lifetime to untangle it if you were lucky.
And this is when I invented The Tongue!
Watch out for #3Fan: "That's not funny! How dare you falsely accuse someone of sodomy!!! Where's your proof??? Outrageous!"
Sure it has. Goober had the image of a cold and distant intellectual. Honestly. The Dims think he's smart.
or the focus of his daughter's image-making though.
Being "sexy" is all a part of the whole package to try and convince people he is a actual human,instead of a puppet or a robot. The truth is he is a stupid,stupid man who is a "Idiot Savant" who can be taught to repeat phrases,but who will never understand what he is saying. This is why he seems "distant". He's working out of a alternate universe.
Did you see the couple on Larry King? They're just as scary as ever. Gore had seemed like a new version 5.0 on Letterman, but reverted back to the buggy 2.0 version on LKL.
No,I don't have cable tv.
They're just as scary as ever.
Him and Tipsy tongue-wrasslin' at the Dim convention was one of the scariest AND most repulsive things I have ever seen in my life. No wonder she's a pillhead.
Gore had seemed like a new version 5.0 on Letterman, but reverted back to the buggy 2.0 version on LKL.
"Black Fundie Preacher Goober" is my personal favorite. Sooner or later he will travel out to San Francisco though,and when he does,I suspect "Bath House Al" will be my new favorite. As good as he is at the preacher role, I suspect he would be a natural as "Bath House Al".
DITTO !!
With that comment unprovoked, I'm not sure you have the disposition to be an effective discusser of conservative issues.
Did I mention you are a freak?
Go to DU if you're going to act like a liberal.
I don't support the fakery. I also don't support blind false implications that makes us look like puritan nutcases though.
In other words you kept your self righteous crap to yourself and now prefer to talk behind her back so you can heap scorn without the consequences of having to defend your idiotic notions of father-daughter relationships.
Plus, a candid caring moment with a random family is not nearly as creepy as a staged olders daughter's head in daddy's lap to make him seem "warm and loving." And there was already an entire thread here devoted to the photo with a disruptive troll to toy with...unless maybe you're involved in a similar borderline situation and are just taking it too personally.
Unmarried, no kids. But been around enough to know that daughters relaxing with their fathers and a father holding hands with his daughter while walking across a yard is nothing to freak out over.
Maybe I should be more sensitive if that's the case. Just remember to be careful since 90% of the culture will think you're a weirdo.
I see you're back to your old self now that cyn left. No, 90% of the people on this thread may think that, but you're making the mistake of thinking that your friends and those on this thread represent the majority. If 90% of the people of America think this is creepy, why hasn't it been in the news anywhere. You people are over-reacting and turning something normal into something perverse and hurting our credibilty in the meantime.
Fantastic. That's a little more than what Gore did.
He acts gay. Gore hasn't done anything to deserve the false implications you've thrown at him.
Me obsessing? LOL Who's the one obsessing over a silly picture to the point of false implications? Who's the one that couldn't let my post stand of a difference of opinion? Who's the one that has a different explanation every few posts in an attempt to excuse his tendency to exaggerate? Let's see...Clinton, fakery, Nambla, Karenna, Leno, trash TV, Jolie...what's next?
Liberals are too intellectually challenged to do much other than call names. You have a lot in common with them. Go to DU so you can be around your intellectual brethren.
If anything, a liberal would ask who I am to judge you. You make sicko comments, expect to be called on it, freak.
Is the freeper that I quoted in post #114 a sicko freak? She lays her head on her dad's lap while watching TV and he strokes her hair sometimes. Oh the horror! You people that are turning something normal into something perverse are nuts.
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What? Nowhere have I said this is a sexual photo. I said it's not a sexual photo. Spycatcher said this photo was sexual, I didn't. I said if it's her job to make him appeal to younger women then that's her job, but this picture isn't part of that. This picture is a staged family photo as I've said several times. Read the thread and get your shit together before you go namecalling. Like I said, you don't have the intelligence for this.
I bet you have Dale Earnhardt memorials on your truck too, don't you?
More evidence of your ignorance. It's not just toothless hillbillys that watch NASCAR, NASCAR is the number 1 spectator sport and has been for a long time. Quit believing everything you hear in the liberal media. I don't own a truck. I guess you're one of those people who takes himself way too seriously to lower himself to the level of the average sports fan and relax a little. It shows. I picked a light-hearted handle because in politics, things change. I knew there'd be no mistaking my handle and it shows I'm not a overly wound shut-in like you may be.
The point is that his daughter's near obsessive involvement in her father's sexuality and virility are very public.
This is the first I've heard of it. Even so, if that's what her role is in his campaign, then that's what she does. It shouldn't mean anything else.
See what I mean, you're a sicko. Perhaps YOU SHOULD be a shut-in.
Real passion _>
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