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Caption this - Al Gore with the ladies
Time Mag ^ | 11/19/02 | self

Posted on 11/19/2002 7:22:47 PM PST by spycatcher



TOPICS: Political Humor/Cartoons
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not that algore himself will ever let us forget what he is all about:
Al Gore says he was terrorized by "busloads of people" http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/792226/posts?page=57
151 posted on 11/22/2002 9:14:29 PM PST by cyn
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To: spycatcher
I think he's saying, "Honey, I gotta blow one. Do you think you can get her to move before she keels over??
152 posted on 11/22/2002 9:15:02 PM PST by mrb1960
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To: spycatcher
But the idea that in the same picture the real loving body contact is redirected to the daughter on the lap with her hair draped across his crotch is disturbing to say the least. I tried to tell #3Fan that when humans get creeped out by something, their natural reaction is to use humor, but he got lost on that point.

No, I know what you're talking about. You're creeped out. I'm not. I said so because these threads look terrible to a lot of normal people. You can't accept that I have a different opinion. I do a lot of things that creep out the puritan wing of FR. I go to bars and drink beer (Oh the horror)! I like pop/rock music. I like women that like to look sexy. A lot of FR puritans are creeped out by these likes and that's fine, different strokes for different folks. I've had some FR puritans say they can never be my friend because the beer thing. That's fine, I'm particular about my friends too, they can't be too self-righteous. We all have different standards. Maybe you believe alcohol and rock music is the tool of the devil. Maybe you think women who like to show off a little as being poossessed, I don't know. That's your standard. My standard for humor doesn't include false incest implications of particular people, nor am I offended by daughters who are reaxed with their fathers as Gore's daughter may be and as the female freeper I quoted in post #114 is. I let my opinion be known because no one else on my side did. You can't let it go. You're deeply offended that my standard for humor isn't the same as yours and since it's not the same you say I'm a stiff. Ask my friends if I'm a stiff.

Political image-making to make him appear sexy for young women is one thing, but this is way out there. I have no doubt his other daughter/advisor not in the photo was directing the "love shot" for the cameraman. Hey, they make the image, we deliver the punch line.

Yes, it's extreme in it's fakery but not wrong in it's pose in my opinion.

153 posted on 11/22/2002 9:18:04 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: mountaineer
To quote a friend of mine: "Duuude! That is just wrong!" said in a disgusted tone. The Clinton/Gore daddy daughter dynamic is beyond wierd and goes into sick and wrong.
154 posted on 11/22/2002 9:23:11 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: #3Fan
What about the freeper I quoted in post #118?

She's from Ireland, and you two are pretty much alone in the wilderness on this. I've sent the photo by itself to many people without the added humor and just like on the thread here 90% say "not appropriate" in American culture. And we all know what that means. The grown daughter is in what would be a position of sexual tension. In Ireland that may not be the case. Hey, some cultures see no problem with two hetero men holding hands and kissing on the lips as a greeting. But that's them.

When a politician puts out images to tell a story about his loving sexiness and screws it up, he should be prepared for jokes. Same with Angelina Jolie and her "innocent" brotherly love in the public eye. Everything may be completely on the up and up with all involved, but we have every right to comment on the sexual messages that are being sent relative to our cultural norms. If you don't understand it, that's OK with me. Just understand that you may not be as perceptive of the appropriateness of sexual messages as others. And once again, nobody is alleging anything sexual is actually in fact going on with the Jolies or the Gores...it's probably just french kissing ;) Sorry, I know you don't laugh -- that joke was for others.

155 posted on 11/22/2002 9:28:00 PM PST by spycatcher
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To: Xphantasos

156 posted on 11/22/2002 9:38:52 PM PST by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher
She's from Ireland, and you two are pretty much alone in the wilderness on this.

You were attacked pretty vehemently by her and another poster on the first thread and pretty quickly. You didn't respond much. The reason you're not here is because you labeled it a caption thread. However this thread is not a caption thread since more posts are serious than are captions. All I did was say I think everyone is over-reacting since the thread turned so serious. Ireland is about the most conservative nation in Europe, by the way. I don't think that something like relaxing with a father would be a cultural difference between us.

I've sent the photo by itself to many people without the added humor and just like on the thread here 90% say "not appropriate" in American culture. And we all know what that means. The grown daughter is in what would be a position of sexual tension.

[sigh] Oh boy. Well, like I said, I disagree and I said so and I think it's important to show more than one point of view on things like this so that lurkers and independants can get a better view of conservative thought. I don't see anything wrong with that picture.

In Ireland that may not be the case. Hey, some cultures see no problem with two hetero men holding hands and kissing on the lips as a greeting. But that's them.

Like in San Fran? Ireland isn't Greece.

When a politician puts out images to tell a story about his loving sexiness and screws it up, he should be prepared for jokes.

Jokes on it's fakery maybe. Falsely implying incest is something I'd never do to a particular person.

Same with Angelina Jolie and her "innocent" brotherly love in the public eye. Everything may be completely on the up and up with all involved, but we have every right to comment on the sexual messages that are being sent relative to our cultural norms.

I don't know about that, morally. The bible speaks against gossip. It's a judgment call and I don't even know who Jolie is so I don't know the details. I would guess that this picture doesn't rise to the degree of that situation.

If you don't understand it, that's OK with me. Just understand that you may not be as perceptive of the appropriateness of sexual messages as others.

And you can be aware that you may be seeing things that don't exist.

And once again, nobody is alleging anything sexual is actually in fact going on with the Jolies or the Gores...it's probably just french kissing ;) Sorry, I know you don't laugh -- that joke was for others.

I laugh all the time at real humor.

157 posted on 11/22/2002 9:50:02 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: spycatcher
Eewwwwww, you win.
That's the one I couldn't find...
158 posted on 11/22/2002 10:20:29 PM PST by Xphantasos
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To: Objective Reality
That was kind of my point? That normal, grown women will usually only feel comfortable enough to rest their head in the lap of a man with whom they feel some degree of sexual tension? Did you read my post?

Yeah,I read it. The question is did YOU read it? If you did and you still stand by it,one of us doesn't understand what "tension" means.

159 posted on 11/23/2002 5:05:47 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: spycatcher
Political image-making to make him appear sexy for young women is one thing,but this is way out there.

I think you missed the point behind that staged photo. It wasn't to make him seem sexy,it was to make him seem like a loving family man.

160 posted on 11/23/2002 5:08:39 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: mountaineer
She's in her twenties, isn't she?
161 posted on 11/23/2002 5:35:20 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: #3Fan
While I wouldn't go as far as saying their relationship is incestuous, I'd say it is strange.

Karenna is constantly trying to Alpha-male sexualize him (for the voters of course).

I still don't see the problem. A young woman knows what other young women like. It's politics.

You are a freak.

The point is that his daughter's near obsessive involvement in her father's sexuality and virility are very public.

This is the first I've heard of it. Even so, if that's what her role is in his campaign, then that's what she does. It shouldn't mean anything else.

Did I mention you are a freak?

162 posted on 11/23/2002 5:42:20 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: spycatcher
"Oh, I got Wood! Wait, I *AM* Wood."
163 posted on 11/23/2002 5:45:19 AM PST by rvoitier
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To: Tailback

The daughter is kinda cute

Yeah but you can bet her brain is miswired. Would take half a lifetime to untangle it if you were lucky.

164 posted on 11/23/2002 5:47:53 AM PST by fso301
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To: #3Fan
The problem is that these people are trying to manipulate us for their own personal gain. They think we're idiots. I, for one, don't like being manipulated and will heap as much scorn as I can muster on any one who tries. Support such as yours, although appropriate under most other circumstances, simply encourages this type of behavior.
165 posted on 11/23/2002 6:13:28 AM PST by KevinB
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To: #3Fan
I didn't respond much to the Irish girl on the other thread because she still enjoys putting her head in daddy's lap too, and I didn't want to make it personal with her. Plus, a candid caring moment with a random family is not nearly as creepy as a staged olders daughter's head in daddy's lap to make him seem "warm and loving." And there was already an entire thread here devoted to the photo with a disruptive troll to toy with...unless maybe you're involved in a similar borderline situation and are just taking it too personally. Maybe I should be more sensitive if that's the case. Just remember to be careful since 90% of the culture will think you're a weirdo.
166 posted on 11/23/2002 8:14:54 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: sneakypete
The "loving family man" issue has never been a problem, or the focus of his daughter's image-making though. It's just a convenient excuse here to get the real propaganda through. The big kiss with Tipper for instance, and the cover of Rolling Stone wasn't to make him seem loving, it was to make him seem lovely to women. Those atttempts both backfired too. His daughter is desperate to create an Alpha Male image for him where the ladies her age swoon and faint. She thinks if just we could see how he's as sexy as Bill Clinton, we would all vote for him -- but she can't actually use models draped on his lap and and kissing him. Here the family is simply being used as willing stand-ins. Tipper is practically anonymous in this photo, and many don't know his younger daughter.
167 posted on 11/23/2002 8:36:25 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher

And this is when I invented The Tongue!

168 posted on 11/23/2002 8:42:16 AM PST by gitmo
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To: Xphantasos; gitmo; #3Fan
Angelina Jolie and her brother James


169 posted on 11/23/2002 9:15:00 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher

170 posted on 11/23/2002 9:17:46 AM PST by Outraged At FLA
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Here's the million dollar question: If Al Gore was an unsexy female candidate would she breast feed her older son for the cameras on MTV to get the college male vote?
171 posted on 11/23/2002 9:25:18 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: Outraged At FLA; #3Fan
LOL...you're in trouble now!

Watch out for #3Fan: "That's not funny! How dare you falsely accuse someone of sodomy!!! Where's your proof??? Outrageous!"

172 posted on 11/23/2002 9:30:33 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher
LOL, to assume is to be American.. LOL..
173 posted on 11/23/2002 9:34:43 AM PST by Outraged At FLA
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To: CARepubGal
I just realized how the daughter is perfectly framing and highlighting her breasts with both arms. How innocent and accidental a pose. I'm surprised now she wasn't cupping them as she looks back into Al's eyes.
174 posted on 11/23/2002 9:45:30 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher
"Tipper! Come over here and help me get off the couch. I got all sweaty again and I'm stuck..."
175 posted on 11/23/2002 9:47:59 AM PST by Redcloak
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To: spycatcher
The "loving family man" issue has never been a problem,

Sure it has. Goober had the image of a cold and distant intellectual. Honestly. The Dims think he's smart.

or the focus of his daughter's image-making though.

Being "sexy" is all a part of the whole package to try and convince people he is a actual human,instead of a puppet or a robot. The truth is he is a stupid,stupid man who is a "Idiot Savant" who can be taught to repeat phrases,but who will never understand what he is saying. This is why he seems "distant". He's working out of a alternate universe.

176 posted on 11/23/2002 10:27:33 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
I'm just saying that women voters don't think he doesn't love his family, they just aren't sure yet if they can "love him" as a person/candidate like they did Clinton.

Did you see the couple on Larry King? They're just as scary as ever. Gore had seemed like a new version 5.0 on Letterman, but reverted back to the buggy 2.0 version on LKL.

177 posted on 11/23/2002 10:33:47 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: Redcloak
"Tipper! Come over here and help me get off the couch. I got all sweaty again and I'm stuck..."


178 posted on 11/23/2002 10:38:35 AM PST by spycatcher
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Did you see the couple on Larry King?

No,I don't have cable tv.

They're just as scary as ever.

Him and Tipsy tongue-wrasslin' at the Dim convention was one of the scariest AND most repulsive things I have ever seen in my life. No wonder she's a pillhead.

Gore had seemed like a new version 5.0 on Letterman, but reverted back to the buggy 2.0 version on LKL.

"Black Fundie Preacher Goober" is my personal favorite. Sooner or later he will travel out to San Francisco though,and when he does,I suspect "Bath House Al" will be my new favorite. As good as he is at the preacher role, I suspect he would be a natural as "Bath House Al".

179 posted on 11/23/2002 10:56:37 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: blake6900
This picture looks like the "drunk son" took it... 150 posted on 11/22/2002 9:08 PM PST by blake6900 [ Post Reply

DITTO !!

180 posted on 11/23/2002 1:49:18 PM PST by timestax
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To: sneakypete
ROFLMAO! The Gores are a very odd family unit indeed.
181 posted on 11/23/2002 6:04:08 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Karenna is constantly trying to Alpha-male sexualize him (for the voters of course). You are a freak.

With that comment unprovoked, I'm not sure you have the disposition to be an effective discusser of conservative issues.

Did I mention you are a freak?

Go to DU if you're going to act like a liberal.

182 posted on 11/24/2002 9:39:12 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: KevinB
The problem is that these people are trying to manipulate us for their own personal gain. They think we're idiots. I, for one, don't like being manipulated and will heap as much scorn as I can muster on any one who tries. Support such as yours, although appropriate under most other circumstances, simply encourages this type of behavior.

I don't support the fakery. I also don't support blind false implications that makes us look like puritan nutcases though.

183 posted on 11/24/2002 9:41:09 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: timestax
bump
184 posted on 11/24/2002 9:43:08 PM PST by muggs
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To: spycatcher
I didn't respond much to the Irish girl on the other thread because she still enjoys putting her head in daddy's lap too, and I didn't want to make it personal with her.

In other words you kept your self righteous crap to yourself and now prefer to talk behind her back so you can heap scorn without the consequences of having to defend your idiotic notions of father-daughter relationships.

Plus, a candid caring moment with a random family is not nearly as creepy as a staged olders daughter's head in daddy's lap to make him seem "warm and loving." And there was already an entire thread here devoted to the photo with a disruptive troll to toy with...unless maybe you're involved in a similar borderline situation and are just taking it too personally.

Unmarried, no kids. But been around enough to know that daughters relaxing with their fathers and a father holding hands with his daughter while walking across a yard is nothing to freak out over.

Maybe I should be more sensitive if that's the case. Just remember to be careful since 90% of the culture will think you're a weirdo.

I see you're back to your old self now that cyn left. No, 90% of the people on this thread may think that, but you're making the mistake of thinking that your friends and those on this thread represent the majority. If 90% of the people of America think this is creepy, why hasn't it been in the news anywhere. You people are over-reacting and turning something normal into something perverse and hurting our credibilty in the meantime.

185 posted on 11/24/2002 9:50:58 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: spycatcher
Angelina Jolie and her brother James

Fantastic. That's a little more than what Gore did.

186 posted on 11/24/2002 9:52:38 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: spycatcher
LOL...you're in trouble now! Watch out for #3Fan: "That's not funny! How dare you falsely accuse someone of sodomy!!! Where's your proof??? Outrageous!"

He acts gay. Gore hasn't done anything to deserve the false implications you've thrown at him.

187 posted on 11/24/2002 9:54:21 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
Your obsessing has now led to you projecting. Time to see the shrink
188 posted on 11/24/2002 10:26:16 PM PST by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher
Your obsessing has now led to you projecting. Time to see the shrink

Me obsessing? LOL Who's the one obsessing over a silly picture to the point of false implications? Who's the one that couldn't let my post stand of a difference of opinion? Who's the one that has a different explanation every few posts in an attempt to excuse his tendency to exaggerate? Let's see...Clinton, fakery, Nambla, Karenna, Leno, trash TV, Jolie...what's next?

189 posted on 11/24/2002 11:05:37 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
I didn't know there was anything liberal about calling a freak a freak. If anything, a liberal would ask who I am to judge you. You make sicko comments, expect to be called on it, freak.
190 posted on 11/25/2002 10:29:10 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
I didn't know there was anything liberal about calling a freak a freak.

Liberals are too intellectually challenged to do much other than call names. You have a lot in common with them. Go to DU so you can be around your intellectual brethren.

If anything, a liberal would ask who I am to judge you. You make sicko comments, expect to be called on it, freak.

Is the freeper that I quoted in post #114 a sicko freak? She lays her head on her dad's lap while watching TV and he strokes her hair sometimes. Oh the horror! You people that are turning something normal into something perverse are nuts.

191 posted on 11/25/2002 1:27:14 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: ConservativeMan55
Just type the picture's url in this HTML command
<img src=URL>:

192 posted on 11/25/2002 1:31:30 PM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: #3Fan
I called you a freak because you say it is perfectly okay to sexualize photos between a man and his daughter because that's just "politics". I bet you have Dale Earnhardt memorials on your truck too, don't you?
193 posted on 11/25/2002 4:09:26 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: muggs
bump
194 posted on 11/25/2002 8:05:41 PM PST by timestax
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
I called you a freak because you say it is perfectly okay to sexualize photos between a man and his daughter because that's just "politics".

What? Nowhere have I said this is a sexual photo. I said it's not a sexual photo. Spycatcher said this photo was sexual, I didn't. I said if it's her job to make him appeal to younger women then that's her job, but this picture isn't part of that. This picture is a staged family photo as I've said several times. Read the thread and get your shit together before you go namecalling. Like I said, you don't have the intelligence for this.

I bet you have Dale Earnhardt memorials on your truck too, don't you?

More evidence of your ignorance. It's not just toothless hillbillys that watch NASCAR, NASCAR is the number 1 spectator sport and has been for a long time. Quit believing everything you hear in the liberal media. I don't own a truck. I guess you're one of those people who takes himself way too seriously to lower himself to the level of the average sports fan and relax a little. It shows. I picked a light-hearted handle because in politics, things change. I knew there'd be no mistaking my handle and it shows I'm not a overly wound shut-in like you may be.

195 posted on 11/25/2002 10:48:56 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
I'm an overly wound shut-in? LOL. Just leave me alone you freak. BTW, I don't live all that far from Daytona...I know all about you Earnhardt freaks.
196 posted on 11/26/2002 5:19:51 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: #3Fan
BTW, here is what someone posted, and this was your response.

The point is that his daughter's near obsessive involvement in her father's sexuality and virility are very public.

This is the first I've heard of it. Even so, if that's what her role is in his campaign, then that's what she does. It shouldn't mean anything else.

See what I mean, you're a sicko. Perhaps YOU SHOULD be a shut-in.

197 posted on 11/26/2002 5:23:03 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: muggs
BUMP
198 posted on 11/26/2002 10:42:11 AM PST by timestax
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To: spycatcher
Woody Real passion _>
199 posted on 11/26/2002 10:59:38 AM PST by SERE_DOC
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To: spycatcher
ROFL! this thread is outta control , bro
200 posted on 11/26/2002 11:29:39 AM PST by mikenola
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