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FReepers Against Voter Fraud
November20, 2002 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/20/2002 2:30:31 PM PST by sweetliberty

"The right of citizens to vote and have their vote count is the cornerstone of our democracy - the necessary precondition of government of the people, by the people and for the people. Enforcing the laws that guarantee voting rights and punish voting fraud is the duty of the Department of Justice. More than mere law enforcement, our responsibility to protect the access to and integrity of elections is the responsibility of upholding freedom itself.

America is a nation whose founding documents and most inspired words uphold the ideal of democratic self-government as a model for the world. The opening phrases of the Declaration of Independence declare that governmental power, if it is to be just, must be derived from the consent of the governed. The Constitution begins, purposefully and deliberately, with these three words: "We the people . . ."

America has failed too often to uphold the right of every citizen's vote, once cast, to be counted fairly and equally. Votes have been bought, voters intimidated and ballot boxes stuffed. The polling process has been disrupted or not completed. Voters have been duped into signing absentee ballots believing they were applications for public relief. And the residents of cemeteries have infamously shown up at the polls on election day.

Today, it is more important than ever before that we embrace the privilege that makes us unique among the peoples, nations and societies of human history. Our way of life is not a given, and our freedom is not an accident. Liberty is a rare gift for which millions have worked and suffered and sacrificed and died. It now falls to us to guard this gift from those who would destroy it. It falls to us, the free, to ensure that the cornerstone of our freedom - government of the people, by the people, and for the people - does not perish from the earth."

(Excerpted from remarks of Attorney General John Ashcroft at the Voting Integrity Symposim - October 8, 2002)

It has been quite a month and overall a victorious one for Republicans. The new year looms bright on the horizon with the promise of much needed changes taking place now that we have the majority in both the House and Senate and with the opportunity to finally have some conservative judges seated who will uphold the Constitution rather than legislating the socialist agenda of the Democrats from the bench and Tiny Tommy Daschle and his obstructionist thugs have been spanked soundly and sent to their room in a manner of speaking.

While we had several days of delirious gloating, drunk on the thrill of a hard earned and well-deserved victory, we know all too well that the election and the events leading up to it were not without incident and once again the deck was stacked against us as the Democrats tried every trick in the book in a shameless effort at stealing yet another election. With the blatant disregard for the law so characteristic of them when it obstructs their designs, they managed to get a liberal kangaroo court to uphold the replacement of Torricelli on the ballot in New Jersey beyond the legal deadline for doing so for no other reason than having determined that the scandal and corruption surrounding Torricelli rendered him incapable of winning. In Minnesota, prior to Paul Wellstone's ill-fated final flight, a plan was uncovered that had Democrats busing in students from out of state to take advantage of Minnesota's same day voter registration and vote illegally for Paul Wellstone. Even as this was being revealed, the campaign was underway to push a similar same day registration legislation in Colorado and California, thereby opening new opportunities for illegal voting in those states. In South Dakota Democrat operatives (sorry, I cannot bring myself to use the word "Democratic") paid a field worker in excess of $12,000 over a period of 3 months to register native Americans on the reservations. It was later discovered that many registration cards that had been turned in by that worker had been written in the same handwriting. Among the newly registered was at least one who was recently deceased. This and other irreglarities that were uncovered in South Dakota has led to 1 out of 10 ballots there being under investigation. Fish need water, plants need sunshine, an addict needs a fix and Democrats need power and these three cases are just samples of the extent to which they will go to get it.

The idea for this thread was born following the Arkansas Hog Wild FReepers' discovery of organized intimidation tactics on the part of Democrat and NAACP operatives in Jefferson County, Arkansas as relayed by FReeper, stop_the_rats, a Republican poll watcher who gained undesired and unfair national notoriety during early voting, and by a Republican campaign worker who "infiltrated" the Clinton led, pre-election campaign "event" there. The original story was posted as part of the after-FReep report with more detail added in a post-election update. The story generated such outrage that the thread turned into a FReeper brainstorm as we labored over how we might counteract the dishonest methods employed by the Democrats to hijack elections. The effort yielded an abundance of references and it was generally agreed that voter fraud is, or at least should be, of great concern to all of us. There is a strong probability that the South Dakota election was stolen and in Arkansas the fraud machine was spinning out of control and may well have cost Tim Hutchinson his senate seat as well, despite the shadow cast over him in the wake of his divorce and remarriage. Chances are that we'll never know. Thankfully neither of these races ended up being the tie-breaker that would determine the balance of power in the Senate, but either could have been and had that been the case, you can bet it would have gotten really ugly and may have produced an entirely different outcome.

Even as the Democrats are still licking their wounds and wondering what on Earth happened on November 5, they are already scrambling and scheming and conniving as to ways to prevent our intercepting their next power grab in 2004. This is revealed in their ongoing efforts to block any attempt to validate a voter's legitimacy whether it be by requiring a legal form of ID at the polls, the repeal of motor voter legislation, cracking down on absentee balloting and early voting, doing away with same day registration or by the presence of poll watchers at polling places. In every case they play the race card crying "black voter intimidation" when in reality they are simply thrashing against the net that could trap those guilty of voting illegally thereby inhibiting travel on their familiar roads of voter fraud. Thankfully, Republicans were more diligent this year and undoubtedly made an impact. More questionable ballots were challenged, more questions raised, more accountability called for and more light shed on irregularities. Until recently, prosecution for voter fraud has been virtually unheard of, but that is starting to change. There have been hundreds of stories published over the past several weeks relating to voting irregularities and credible allegations of fraud. Some have led to criminal charges being filed and still others have led to investigations which are ongoing. While it is unlikely that all election fraud can be stopped, it is much harder for it operate under a spotlight, which is exactly why we must each do our part to make sure that the spotlight stays on those "shadowy" recesses where voting machines mysteriously vanish, ballot boxes are obscured from view and the demons of electoral darkness run amok.

It was suggested that the opening remarks of Attorney General John Ashcroft be used as the basis of our mission statement for this thread. In these precarious times when we are at war and we are threatened daily by terrorism, our liberty has become more precious than ever and we must be vigilant to protect it not only from foreign invaders, but also from those who would erode it from within by compromising the integrity of our elections. In order to succeed in a battle it is essential to know the enemy and attack at the point of greatest vulnerability. Included here is a list of links, which while by no means exhaustive, can serve to enlighten. Many of these stories are from Arkansas only because this was the springboard for this thread and we look forward to other FReepers adding stories from their own areas as well as any based in personal experience. The original thread also produced a wealth of resources as we discussed who we should contact if we became aware of voting irregularities or suspected fraud. Again the list of links is far from comprehensive and additions are welcome. Of course the whole point of this exercise is to get more conservative voters involved in changing the laws to close loopholes which make it easy to cheat, to promote the enforcement of existing election laws and to take part in the election process at the local level all with the goal of intercepting future fraud campaigns. In other words our goal is to STOP THE RATS FROM HIJACKING THE ELECTION PROCESS AND TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!

Many thanks to all the wonderful FReepers who contributed their time, energy and ideas to produce the foundation for this thread:

kcvl; kayak; zeaal; demosthenes the elder; terriergal; Brad's Gramma; Budge; TheLion; backhoe; ForGod'sSake; Congressman Billybob; nicmarlo; Ragtime Cowgirl; to ST.LOUIE1 for his graphics and of course to Jim Robinson who has given us this great forum and sense of purpose. A very special thanks and salute goes out to stop_the_rats for her patriotism and tenacity in facing down the enemy within. She is a warrior of whom we should be proud. What a great screen name AND battle cry for the mission of this thread!

Awareness- know thy enemy! If any of these links become outdated many of these articles are posted on the original FReep thread. If you let me know via FReepmail, I will make editorial adjustments accordingly before renewing the thread.

It's Voter Fraud Season Again!

The Nagging Problem of Election Fraud

Voter Fraud: Can It Be Stopped?

The Greatest Cover-up Of All: Vote Fraud In America

The Motor Voter Act and Voter Fraud

Absentee Ballot Fraud among Democrats in Florida an Old Story

An election scam

Should We Take Voter Fraud as Seriously as Business Fraud?

Voter Reform: Why Are Democrats Opposed To A Photo ID to Vote?

More allegations of vote fraud surface

Two convicted of voter fraud get probation

Voter Fraud In Arkansas (2000)

FRAUD in Arkansas!!! Voters Illegally Casting Ballots 2 Weeks Early in Organized Effort by Dems (2000)

Arkansan pleads guilty in vote fraud

Investigators Look Into Another Vote Fraud Case

1,000 Republican Students Denied Right to Vote

Arkansas GOP charges vote fraud

Missing Voting Mechanism Recovered

The Democrats Lost Ugly

Looking Back On Tuesday's Election Problems

The Oglala Sioux's Senator

Let’s Hear It for Fraud – And REAL Soon

Ghost Precincts

The Vote Fraud Archives

Need Vote Fraud articles, stories, and evidence? Here's a source...

Access One reason the Democrats get away with as much as they do is because they make a lot of noise. It is time WE make some noise of our own. There are a number of individuals, organizations and media sources who support our Constitution and seek to protect the integrity of our elections. Here are a few of them. Rather than clutter the body of this thread with a long list of email addresses, I will post the websites. Most of these have contacts and email addresses on them.

Department of Justice Voting Rights Home Page

FBI

American Conservative Union

Eagle Forum

Eagle Forum of Arkansas

The Heritage Foundation

ACLJ

Fox News

Drudge Report

Rush Limbaugh

Hugh Hewitt

Election Law Below is a very brief list of some election laws and guidelines which we have referenced recently. I am sure this section will grow considerably as others add their contributions.

Arkansas Election Code

Arkansas Election Faqs

State Requirements For Voter ID

Texas Pollwatcher's Guide

Vote Fraud and Election Issues (Lots of Links)

Limitations On Lawyers

Reporting Unlicensed Lawyers

Action What can FReepers do? For starters we can identify states that will have key races in the 2004 election. Is your state one of them? Let's start getting important information about the race, the candidates, the electoral history of the state, the laws in that state and how open they may leave the process to tampering, history of voter fraud in the state, conservative media outlets there, and whatever else you can think of that might be relevant to equip the electorate to head off problems in advance.

Democrats LIE! Their biggest and most effective lie is that Republicans are deliberately trying to prevent blacks and/or other minorities from voting. In effect, they're calling us racists. The truth is that it is them who seem to consider blacks and other minorities so inferior and ignorant and lackiing in initiative that they are incapable of voting without the benefit of THEIR "guidance" and "protection". Their greatest fear is that blacks will recognize how badly they've been duped and insulted by these people and leave the party in droves. We need to work with that. Black conservatives have perhaps the greatest responsibility for telling other black voters the truth about the Democrat party, although it is certainly something we should all work on.

Talk about election fraud. Bring it up whenever an opportunity presents itself. Keep a notebook at all times and if someone tells you anything pointing to vote fraud, get more details. Write down such things as county, precinct, candidates in the race, name of the witness and whatever else you can think of. If it seems credible, report it to someone.

Take part in the process. Here is a list of suggestions that stop_the_rats posted on another thread:

1. Plan to take election day off in 2004.
2. Be a poll worker. You get paid for this.
3. Be a poll watcher. Call your local Republican headquarters or the campaign office of one of your Republican candidates and volunteer to be a poll watcher.
4. Count absentee ballots. You get paid for this also.
5. Be a poll closer. It's a long day. Some people who can't poll watch because of work, could agree to come after work for 2 hours and close the polls to give poll watchers a break. Get final counts and make sure no "late" voters turn up.
6. Take lunches to poll workers and poll watchers.
7. Man the headquarters so if problems arise, poll workers or watchers have a place to call for help. Have a list of numbers: local election officals, state officals.
8. Find a person who will agree to "be in charge" of all the rules poll watchers and poll workers need to follow. Each state has rules and in some cases, state election representatives will come to your city and give a presentation.
9. Encourage others to get involved.
10. Smile; we have them worried!

Some might want to take it a step furthur, if that is an option in your area, and be an election judge. Or you may have specific talents and training that you could donate to the cause, such as legal assistance and advice.

Finally; ask questions. FReepers have an uncanny ability to ask the right questions in most any situation AND to find answers and we have an inexhaustable resource right here on Free Republic. Here are just a few questions to start with.

"If fraud is suspected, how do we find out who is behind it?"

"How do we work to get cooperation between poll watchers and workers and clarify expectations on all sides BEFORE an election?"

"How can you prove fraud? What is legal in a given state (photos, tape recording, witness statements, compiling a list of names, video taping)?"

And last, but certainly not least, pray!

"If My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land." (2 Chronicles 7:14)

"Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord" (Psalm 33:12a)

FReepers; your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to get out there and STOP THE RATS!


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To: conservativemusician
"A little jail time would be quite satisfying, for lack of a more appropriate punishment."

I can't tell you how satisfying it would be to see the two of them in orange jumpsuits! But then I probably don't need to tell you. Hehehe...

441 posted on 11/27/2002 8:53:54 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Mudboy Slim
He is more like a middle linebacker. His neck at birth was bigger than his 18 month older sister. If he falls down while trying to do something, he gets up and bangs his head on what he fell from. Then he tries it again. If you don't lift him which gets harder to do each month, he will grab your legs with his two vise grips posing as hands and bang his head against your knee and leg until you lift him up. My poor wife comes home with bruises after a visit or after they visit us.

Somehow his dad's wrestling skills got passed on. Without any training he can take his older sister down and pin her. He has the greatest reversal move I have ever seen. If she takes him down, he does his reversal move pins her. So now she uses push/shove and run techniques. She is tough and in great shape, but he has been stronger since he was a year old.

I nicked named him Bam Bam for obvious reasons. My grand daughter started calling him Bam Bam and my DIL didn't like the nickname. Then she took him in for his yearly check up with the PED. He did his things with the PED, the PED was a football player and they got along great. He started calling him Bubba.

Since then we call him Bubba Bam Bam, and our poor DIL has joined us.
442 posted on 11/27/2002 8:55:21 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: conservativemusician; Fish out of Water; hellinahandcart; Interesting Times; CPT Clay; Dog Gone; ...
Those of you spending time with family over Thanksgiving have an excellent opportunity to increase awareness of voter fraud. And be sure to report back on your findings. LOL!


443 posted on 11/27/2002 9:00:56 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Grampa Dave
Heh heh...actually JakeyBoy's probably an outside backer, too...but Boris's boy is definitely a Nose Tackle...dude's off the chart in weight and head size, and way up there in height...LOL!! He just turned one about a month ago...MUD

BTW..."Simple Man"
(To be sung to Charlie Daniels Band's "Simple Man")

I ain't nuthin' but a simple man...RATS call me a redneck, reckon that I am...
But there's things goin' on make me mad down to the core!
I gotta work like a Dawg...I'm enslaved to DeeCee...
Where crooked politicians sell our Nukes to Chinese,
And I'm madder than Hell and I ain't gonna take it no more!
Reagan told our kids to, "Just Say No!"
But then Ol' Slick Willie jokes, "Let's have another toke!"
Tells us 'bout his briefs, then laughs while his intern goes down.
Well, if I had my way with this Apostle From Hope,
I'd take a big tall tree and a short piece of rope,
I'd hang 'im up high and let 'im swing 'til the Leftists' Cow!!!

Well, you know what's wrong with the world today,
People done gone thrown their values away,
They livin' by the "Law of Slick Willie" not the "Law of the Land."
Well, the Good Book says it so I need no more proof...
"A Lie's Still a Lie and The Truth's Still The Truth."
Bill better watch what he's sayin', Law's closin' in on him,
Can't you Sheeple see it?! Slick's a Felon, Men!!!!

Now I'm the kinda man who wouldn't harm a mouse,
But if I ketch somebody breakin' in MUD's House,
I gotta full-blown ars'nal waitin' on the other side!
So don't go a pushin' me against my will,
I don't wanna fight ya but I durn sure will,
So if you don't want trouble you better just pass me on by!
Becuz as far as I'm concerned There Ain't No Excuse,
For Slick's Rapin', Mad Bombin', and Power Abuse,
But I gotta way to put an end to all that madness...
We'll just put them Lib'rals back on the Boat,
Send 'em all First-class and make sure that it floats,
Send 'em all 'round the world and leave 'em wherever they like best!

Well, you know what's wrong with the world today,
People done gone put their Bibles away...
They livin' by the "Law of Dem Lib'rals" not the "Law of the Land."
Well, the Good Book says it, so I need no more proof,
A Lie's still a Lie and The Truth's Still The Truth!!
Bill better watch what he's sayin', Right's closin' in on him...
Right's Hell-Bent on Justice...SLICK'S A TRAITOR, MEN!!

Bill, watch where you're goin', Slim's just around the bend...
Mudboy's bent on Justice, Yer Butt's Hist'ry, Man!!

SlixMYbitch...MUD

444 posted on 11/27/2002 9:02:56 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: sweetliberty
Here's one for the archives:

Steve Forbes, Fact and Comment, FORBES, 12/09/02

Stalin-like Contests

Two scandals plague our elections. One is voter fraud; the other, gerrymandering. The latest abuse involves questionable balloting in South Dakota that swung the election to the incumbent Democratic senator. But the problem is widespread. Political operatives cast absentee ballots in the names of those who are incapacitated in nursing homes. Millions of people are on registration rolls, including illegal aliens, who shouldn't be. Hundreds of people in 2000 voted in both New York and Florida. Gross election law violations on Election Day 2000 were exposed in St. Louis. And on and on it goes.

At the very least, voters should be required to show identification. Yet even this straightforward idea rouses intense opposition from Democrats. With a straight face they say that having to provide ID would discourage low-income and minority voters. What really worries them: The move would help prevent fraud.

The other scandal is rigging congressional district lines to protect incumbents. Computers now enable pols to gerrymander districts to minimize competition. The worst example of this is in California. After the 2000 census, boundaries were redrawn to protect every incumbent, Democrat and Republican alike. One unintended competitive race cropped up when Gary Condit became embroiled in a national scandal. Only about 35 of the 435 congressional districts had genuine competition, and in 78 districts incumbents faced no major-party opposition. We still have competitive gubernatorial and senatorial races because politicos haven't yet figured out how to redraw state boundaries--although the New Jersey Supreme Court may have provided an answer: Ignore the Constitution and the written law, and do what you want to do anyway.

While some other states supposedly had nonpartisan procedures in place for redrawing congressional and legislative districts after a census, Iowa seems to have been the only one that made that goal a reality.

Incumbents are also protected by our increasingly arcane, antichallenger campaign finance laws. Would-be opponents know that they must be ready to spend tens of thousands of dollars on lawyers and accountants alone. Federal law is enough to make anyone think twice about running against an entrenched congressman. One big irony: Our Founding Fathers thought the House of Representatives would be the most sensitive barometer of public opinion, because representatives have to face the voters every two years.

What's the answer? Term limits, for one. Genuine campaign finance reform--you may give a candidate as much as you want as long as there is full, prompt disclosure--would also be helpful. Since judges like to make law these days, perhaps the Supreme Court could mandate that the Iowa approach be used in the other 49 states.
445 posted on 11/27/2002 9:04:15 AM PST by bert
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To: sweetliberty
Bump!
446 posted on 11/27/2002 9:05:47 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: bert
Thanks for the addition. Do you happen to have a link for that?
447 posted on 11/27/2002 9:08:10 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Mudboy Slim
That's a good one, but then I'm kinda partial to Charlie Daniels.
448 posted on 11/27/2002 9:12:13 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
bump
449 posted on 11/27/2002 9:15:31 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: Mudboy Slim
WOW! They printed it in it's entirety? Amazing. They got room for a guitar playin' conservative in the Old Dominion?

Now I'd just hafta convince the missus...
450 posted on 11/27/2002 9:15:46 AM PST by conservativemusician
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To: sweetliberty
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours as well!

Orange is definitely Hilda's color!LOL

The picture of them holding up the card with the numbers on it would be priceless!
451 posted on 11/27/2002 9:18:36 AM PST by conservativemusician
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To: conservativemusician
"The picture of them holding up the card with the numbers on it would be priceless!"

Indeed!

452 posted on 11/27/2002 9:20:36 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Mudboy Slim
OUr grandson is in the top 90%, and he ain't fat. It is muscle. He has got the best rhythm for an all most all white boy (little Indian other stuff in the DNA)that I have seen.

His mother is an exercise instructor and uses music to teach routines with. He has been around this music all his life. He can shake his booty better than most of her students. The Grand daughter is great and dances and moves like her mother, but he is a riot to see a little Bubba dancing and moving like he does when he hears the music. His poor Dad, our son, just rolls his eyes when this happens.
453 posted on 11/27/2002 9:21:46 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Mudboy Slim
OUr grandson is in the top 90%, and he ain't fat. It is muscle. He has got the best rhythm for an all most all white boy (little Indian other stuff in the DNA)that I have seen.

His mother is an exercise instructor and uses music to teach routines with. He has been around this music all his life. He can shake his booty better than most of her students. The Grand daughter is great and dances and moves like her mother, but he is a riot to see a little Bubba dancing and moving like he does when he hears the music. His poor Dad, our son, just rolls his eyes when this happens.
454 posted on 11/27/2002 9:21:59 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: sweetliberty
Great idea! Thanks for the ping.
455 posted on 11/27/2002 9:27:49 AM PST by windchime
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To: sweetliberty; All
Happy Thanksgiving to all bump.
456 posted on 11/27/2002 9:31:05 AM PST by windchime
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To: sweetliberty
Those of you spending time with family over Thanksgiving have an excellent opportunity to increase awareness of voter fraud.

This really made me giggle. I'll be with my family over Christmas...stalwart Florida Dems...heheheheh!

If I even attempted to raise this subject with them, I'm sure that would have me "cut out of the will." :-) I'm the little conservative black sheep of the family, as is! LOL!

{{{{{{{{{{{{sweetliberty}}}}}}}}}}}}

457 posted on 11/27/2002 10:03:58 AM PST by dansangel
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To: dansangel
I feel for you! I remember the frustration when my little sister went through her liberal phase while Clinton was occupying the white house. She seemed to think that everybody was making too much fuss about nothing, but thankfully she came to her senses after observing Al Gore and his obvious attempt to steal the election. My family is otherwise very conservative, although my daughter is mad at Bush.
458 posted on 11/27/2002 10:19:57 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
My family is otherwise very conservative, although my daughter is mad at Bush.

My only child, my daughter, is even further to the left than my parents. It makes for some pretty intense discussions when she and my son-in-law come to visit (as in **tomorrow**!)

.45MAN and I have been able to get through to them on some issues (how ridiculous and anti-Constitution gun control is), but they hold firm on others. They are convinced our POTUS is a war-monger who cares nothing for the poor or the environment. (Blind liberal brain-washing!)

It's my mission to keep working on them!

459 posted on 11/27/2002 10:26:07 AM PST by dansangel
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To: sweetliberty
The link to Steve Forbes Fact and Comment
460 posted on 11/27/2002 10:29:00 AM PST by bert
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