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Al-Qaeda Chatter on UseNet?
Free Republic Exclusive ^ | Nov. 21, 2002 | Johnathan Galt

Posted on 11/21/2002 5:06:10 PM PST by JohnathanRGalt

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To: Gorzaloon
What happens is a spammer gets his peepee whacked with a mallet by his ISP, and he throws a tantrum, trying to flood the nanae newsgroup in a fit of pique. They also issue forged cancels.

Makes sense. That explains why news.admin.net-abuse.email would a target. Why do they attack alt.test or gnu.gnusenet.test?

I wonder what program they're useing to generate the nonsense text?

21 posted on 11/21/2002 5:34:29 PM PST by JohnathanRGalt
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To: MrDaddyLongLegs; All
SORRY! I SHOULD OF WARNED YOU ALL
HERE IS THE STORY AND LINK

The body of Bonnie Witheral, an American nurse who was shot dead by an unknown gunman at a clinic in Sidon


Spate of attacks raises Arab terrorism fears


AMERICANS came under attack across the Middle East yesterday, prompting fears of a new wave of terrorist strikes at vulnerable Western targets in the Arab world.
An American nurse was killed by a gunman in Lebanon. Two US soldiers were shot and injured in Kuwait by a fugitive policeman. In Saudi Arabia a gunman burst into a McDonald’s restaurant and set it alight.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-488755,00.html
22 posted on 11/21/2002 5:34:40 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: JohnathanRGalt
BUMP!
23 posted on 11/21/2002 5:36:49 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: cmsgop
bttt

Uppity? not me

24 posted on 11/21/2002 5:37:06 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Bahbah
:)- No problem! I thought that there were actually some kind of settlements in Lebanon- like maybe a missionary settlement or something- and I just hadn't heard about it.

Thanks for responding to my post-:)

25 posted on 11/21/2002 5:38:22 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Gorzaloon
Would it be normal for a spammer to have addresses in Israel, France, Canada and Herndon, VA?
26 posted on 11/21/2002 5:39:04 PM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Hmmmmmmmmm...........Interesting stuff. Does the FBI know about this stuff? Is this what they've been talking about when they mean "chatter" or is this the usual nonsense that the internet breeds?

I went to one of the Threads you recommended........
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=%25Dea9.662%24Za.34883734%40newssvr16.news.prodigy.com

If this is in fact code it's pretty complex for non-english speaking foreigners. The al Qaeda were pretty anal about keeping notebooks. Notebooks with observations on how long dogs took to die when exposed to cyanide gas; notebooks with chemical formulas; notebooks with inventories of weapons and who had checked them out; etc., etc. Were there any notebooks recovered that covered standard code words for their operatives to use?

Some clean farmers inside the rural store were talking near the thin monolith. Don't even try to change the butchers hatefully, hate them cruelly. Nowadays, it cares a spoon too lost without her upper house. He will fill blank enigmas on the glad quiet summer, whilst Abu stupidly believes them too. These days, go kill a tailor! I was tasting to talk you some of my sick dusts. All lazy dirty onions will loudly sow the shopkeepers.

Farmers=?; store=?; monolith=?; butchers=?; spoon=?; upper house=?; enigmas=?; tailor=?; dusts=?; onions=?; shopkeepers=? There has to be a decoder for all this uninteligible crap.

27 posted on 11/21/2002 5:39:36 PM PST by DoctorMichael
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To: TLBSHOW
Thank for the PICTURE. It is what is going on.
28 posted on 11/21/2002 5:42:38 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Hmmmm . . . Quite possibly correct. One of the newsgroups I used to read on a regular basis is often unreadable for weeks and months on end because of these flooding attacks.

I always dismissed it as the work of some kook named Thomas Boschloo who lives in the Netherlands and apparently has some kind of grudge against the group. But now I see the words 'Moustapha' and 'Boschloo' often appear together in these posts. It was a big mistake to educate ragheads at our universities, and it is an even BIGGER one that we're still doing it. We're teaching them how to kill us for crying out loud.

29 posted on 11/21/2002 5:45:54 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Diddle E. Squat; hole_n_one
Somehow the actual picture carries more impact than a lame description. Go ahead and look. It's coming to America.
30 posted on 11/21/2002 5:48:01 PM PST by Sender
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To: Ben Hecks
Would it be normal for a spammer to have addresses in Israel, France, Canada and Herndon, VA?

Even if they are not forged, usually these mean little. Many spammers have software that probes for open relays or formmail scripts that can be hijacked.

I have a couple of attempts on my site every day.

Herndon, VA is where Network solutions and AOL live. France is spam-friendly (Wannadoo.fr is one of the worst spam spigots on earth; Their abuse department is useless.) Canada has long been a troublesome source, even before spam mail, they ran telemarketing boiler room operations there.

31 posted on 11/21/2002 5:50:51 PM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: TLBSHOW
thanks
32 posted on 11/21/2002 5:51:44 PM PST by dennisw
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To: cmsgop
Dude Thats Bizzare, It reads like a thousand poems strung together. The FBI should have a looksy.......

The FBI has had a look-see. What they've done with the information is beyond my reach.

33 posted on 11/21/2002 5:52:29 PM PST by meyer
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Looks like some of the stuff the Scientologists post in code.
34 posted on 11/21/2002 5:54:27 PM PST by dinodino
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To: TLBSHOW
re post #22:

LINKS OF INTEREST:

***US. DEPARTMENT OF STATE: "WORLDWIDE CAUTION" (112002)***

USA TODAY.com (AP): Sidon, Lebanon. "AMERICAN MISSIONARY KILLED IN SOUTH LEBANON" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "...The clinic provides medical care and help to local people and Palestinian refugees in camp nearby. "Bonnie died because she loved the people of Sidon," he told reporters outside the center. "May God forgive them," Dagher said of the attackers. Muslim clerics have criticized the Unity Center in the past, accusing it of preaching Christianity and trying to indoctrinate Sidon's youth...") (ARTICLE NOTE: The victim is identified as Bonnie Penner, age 31, wife of Gary Whitherall.) (112102)

FOX NEWS.com: "TWO GIs SHOT BY KUWAITI POLICEMAN" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "KUWAIT CITY - Two U.S. Army soldiers were shot and seriously wounded on Thursday, when a Kuwaiti policeman opened fire after a highway traffic stop, the Kuwaiti government said. The Kuwaiti Interior Ministry said the policeman, identified as a junior officer, fled to Saudi Arabia shortly after the shooting.") (112102)

35 posted on 11/21/2002 5:56:04 PM PST by Cindy
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To: JohnathanRGalt
That explains why news.admin.net-abuse.email would a target. Why do they attack alt.test or gnu.gnusenet.test? I don't know about the .gnu group, but alt.test is specifically for trying such things, and testing the posting abilities of newsreaders, and uploads, etc, so it makes sense they would try a dry run there.

Hipcrime was the writer.program that was later perverted into a weapon, something like AOHELL, if anyone remembers that..Heh heh.

BUt nanae gets hit a lot with such things. Last time the poster was using some unsecured relay in India. This latest I have not seen , because I stopped downloading headers when I saw the message count. My newsserver will filter them all out overnight.

Why even MY posting name is in some of the datafiles, and shows up once every blue moon in these. To the 14-year-old self abuser, putting something fearful like Arabic or terrorist sounding names in such a file would be irresistable.

36 posted on 11/21/2002 5:57:10 PM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: Sender
Young teens are not only are active in this forum, they are encouraged to participate.

It's not too much to expect that a simple warning be placed in advance of posting such a graphic photo, or a hot link to the pic as D. Squat suggested.

I'm not suggesting censorship, however, a pic such as that does NOT need to be simply tossed in a thread without any consideration to any of the members of this forum.

37 posted on 11/21/2002 5:57:50 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Of course, what I do not understand is why they would bother with this crap. For instance, why don't they encrypt all their communications, usenet and otherwise, with PGP? It's simpler and more secure to boot.
38 posted on 11/21/2002 5:58:53 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Gorzaloon
Herndon, VA is where Network solutions and AOL live. France is spam-friendly (Wannadoo.fr is one of the worst spam spigots on earth; Their abuse department is useless.) Canada has long been a troublesome source, even before spam mail, they ran telemarketing boiler room operations there.

These are just a sampling, there are hundreds more.

The IP in Herndon, VA is owned by RoadRunner (another moderately large ISP). France and Canada also have large, vocal, populations of Muslims as well as spammers. I often trace Palestinian hackers back to ISPs in Israel.

Right now, it appears to be a mystery. I think more research is needed.

39 posted on 11/21/2002 6:07:06 PM PST by JohnathanRGalt
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To: LibWhacker
Of course, what I do not understand is why they would bother with this crap. For instance, why don't they encrypt all their communications, usenet and otherwise, with PGP? It's simpler and more secure to boot.

In these posts, they often use PGP to verify their signature, so the receiver of the message knows exactly where the nonsense text came from -- check a few of them out.

Don't know why they don't just encrypt the whole message (but maybe it is encrypted).

40 posted on 11/21/2002 6:11:03 PM PST by JohnathanRGalt
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