Posted on 11/23/2002 12:09:30 AM PST by flamefront
thanx for dusting this one off, honway. makes my blood boil.
iirc, this was alleged to be oklahoma congressman istook intimidating a witness. who was the witness?
I also notice that you were invited to further discuss this subject HERE but have apparently declined to do so.
Why?
Hussaun Alhussaini
Your site does not permit access with my "Anonymizer Protection" enabled. I purchased the program just so I could vist your site anonymously. I have surfed all over the web and your site there is the only that I can't access anonymously.
Why is that?
Folks, if you haven't been to Darling Lili's HERE, I would recommend you not go there until an explanation is given as to why you can not go there anonymously.Isn't there sophisticated software associated with that capability?
The one thing I don't understand about all this -- if Al Qaeda and/or Iraq are behind the OKC bombing, how could GW Bush NOT know this by now? And if he knows it, why hasn't he told us? What the heck is he waiting for??
Absent appropriate public pressure, my guess is that there will be no House or Senate hearings on the OKC bombing.
Sources close to the Pentagon study say Timothy McVeigh did play a role in the bombing but peripherally, as a "useful idiot." The multiple bombings have a Middle Eastern "signature," pointing to either Iraqi or Syrian involvement."
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The quote is from an article in the 3-20-1996 Strategic Investment Newsletter. At the time, William Colby, former CIA Director, was an editor for the publication. I believe his status as editor contributes to the credibility of the article.
It looks like the evidence supports the Pentagon report conclusion.
http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/mcveigh/part08.htm
PETITION FOR WRIT OF MANDAMUS OF PETITIONER-DEFENDANT, TIMOTHY JAMES McVEIGH AND BRIEF IN SUPPORT MARCH 25, 1997
19. May 6, 1996 Letter to Joseph H. Hartzler concerning an article in Strategic Investment magazine which referenced a classified Pentagon study concerning the bombing of the Murrah Building. This letter requested information concerning this classified study. See D.E. 1923 (Vol. III Exhibit "P").
Some dismiss it as being akin to Elvis sightings, but a few top Defense officials think Oklahoma City bomber Tim McVeigh was an Iraqi agent. The theory stems from a never-before-reported allegation that McVeigh had allegedly collected Iraqi telephone numbers. Why haven't we heard this before about the case of the executed McVeigh? Conspiracy theorists in the Pentagon think it's part of a coverup.
TXnMA (No Longer!!!)
From the Washington Times:
Lurking in the Jayna Davis files
Frank J. Gaffney Jr.
November 19, 2002On Sunday, the New York Times breathlessly reported on its front page (above the fold, no less) that, "The Bush administration has begun to monitor Iraqis in the United States in an effort to identify potential domestic terrorist threats posed by sympathizers of the Baghdad regime."
According to the Times, "A large number of government agencies are part of the new operation, including the Pentagon, the FBI, the Central Intelligence Agency, the immigration service, the State Department and the National Security Agency. "
For those of us who have long been worried about the threat posed in this country by Iraqi intelligence operatives and their allies, it is heartening to hear an unnamed "senior government official" cited as saying: "This is the largest and most aggressive program like this we've ever had. We think we know who most of the bad guys are, but we are going to be very proactive here and not take any chances."
Unfortunately, it appears that at least some of the agencies charged with addressing the threat posed by Saddam's operatives and their sympathizers fail utterly to comprehend the challenge the targeted groups and individuals constitute. For example, the New York Times reports that "according to the CIA," there is no evidence Iraq has engaged in terrorist activity against the United States" since 1993, when Iraqi agents tried to assassinate former President George H.W. Bush in Kuwait.
This statement is deeply disturbing. It not only suggests a lack of appreciation of the present danger. It also evinces an obliviousness to the historical record that raises a question as to whether the existing intelligence and law enforcement agencies are up to the task at hand.
That record includes the impressive investigative research conducted by Jayna Davis, a former reporter with Oklahoma City's KFOR television station. Since the Murrah Building was destroyed in April 1995, Miss Davis has been tirelessly collecting, sifting and analyzing evidence ( including some 80 pages of affidavits from more than 20 eyewitnesses and 2,000 supporting documents) of precisely the sort that the CIA says does not exist. Among Miss. Davis' more telling discoveries are the following:
(Click on link for remainder of article)
Washington Post 08/25/93: William Claiborne
Excerpt:
More than 80 members of Congress have asked President Clinton to end what they called the "potentially dangerous and unfair policy" of resettling captured Iraqi soldiers in the United States along with deserving civilian Iraqi refugees.
Nearly 1,000 Iraqi soldiers captured by U.S. forces during the 1991 Persian Gulf War have been resettled at public expense in cities across the United States. They are among nearly 3,000 Iraqi refugees -- the majority of them civilians -- who have been resettled in the United States from internment camps in Saudi Arabia.
Another 3,000 Iraqi former POWs and their families are scheduled to be moved here on humanitarian grounds, the complaining House members said.
In August, Iraqi military forces rolled into northern Iraq and crushed the resistance effort. U.S. forces evacuated more than 6,000 Iraqis and Kurds to a NATO air base in Turkey before flying them to Guam.
During their five-month stay in Guam, the refugees were taught American civics--including, Frenzen notes with irony, the right to face one's accuser in court. They also submitted to FBI interviews.
Frenzen contends that disgruntled resistance workers, motivated in some cases by petty personal disputes with his clients, intentionally misled the FBI about their backgrounds. But because the FBI's reports of those interviews are classified, federal authorities will not disclose why the refugees are considered potential threats to national security. The INS has granted asylum to their wives and children.
Amen. The way I understand it, McVeigh only attended ONE militia meeting in his whole life, and was thrown out after the first 15 minutes and told never to return. Nichols had attended meetings, but he was told not to come back for having brought McVeigh. The press knew this of course, but for some reason didn't find it important.
Do you have any links that show an image of the Republican Guard tatoo that John Doe 2 had on his shoulder? I need to know what the tatoo looked like.
Seattle terror cell & Jafar a.k.a. "Jeff" Siddiqui bump.
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