Battle of the Alamo - Thirteen Days to Glory

University of Texas ^ | Unknown | Stephen L. Hardin

[ErnBatavia]

Great post, Sam......I remember a few months ago, on another Alamo thread, some witty Freeper's line:

Travis looked over the wall and saw the horde of approaching Mexicans, turned back and said, "Boys, are we pouring concrete today?"

:)

[Publius6961]

Was it the Discovery Channel that just rewrote Custers battle at the Little Big Horn with modern forensic evidence ? They were going to do the same thing to the Alamo so watch out for another attack on an American Icon.

Done deal.

I saw it and it was pretty disgusting.
Davy Crocket tried to "sneak out" and was shot like a dog out in a field somewhere.

All based on an apparent forgery that was painfully contrived to seem authentic, and allowing a series of "ifs" to be true...

They cobbled together a revised picture of the battle that is right up there with Second Hand Smoke, Global Warming and Africa's "Eve".

[tubebender]

They did the same thing on Custers Battle but the Alamo story line sounds like a real hack job.

[VOA]

Two things that freaked me out about The Alamom when I visited in 1996:

1. The number of Spanish/Hispanic names of the defenders on the wall

2. The story of the small band that sneaked into the compound to meet their
fate with the defenders.

And I'd never heard these things even though I grew up one state away (Oklahoma)
and was a pretty enthusiastic student in history classes.

[SAMWolf]

There were a lot of Mexicans who didn't like the idea of Santa Anna's dictatorship and fought against him.

[RikaStrom]

They did the same thing on Custers Battle but the Alamo story line sounds like a real hack job.

I'm glad I didn't see the Custer's Battle one, but if what they did to the Alamo was any indication, good grief.

They "stroked" that evidence into doing what they wanted...providing that the series of "if" statements were all true as Publius said.

[VOA]

the Governor of Arizona, Bruce Babbitt went to San Antonio and proclaimed the Alamo,
"a symbol of racism against Mexicans."

Thanks for more evidence that Babbitt is a freakin' moron.
Guess he must not have read the list of killed defenders at The Alamo...
and noticed the Spanish/Hispanic surnames.

Last I heard via The Los Angeles Times, Babbitt was busy helping to push
a ritzy housing development on a piece of coastal California that had
been "verboten" for development due to environmental concerns.

I will always cherish the time John Stossel got Babbitt to melt down in about 30 seconds
on his "Mr. Stossel Goes to Washington" special...when Babbitt freaked out over the
prospect of being asked about all the mis-accounting of payments to Native Americans.

Babbitt...what a symbol of The Party Of Mendacity...The Democrats.

[johnny7]

They didn't rewrite Custers battle, they just added some info.

Custer attacked over 3000 warriors with less than 300 men in his group.

Most were not veterans of indian fights and panicked. Read about the battle, go there, see it and then post your reply.

I will answer any questions.

[RikaStrom]

I'm sorry johnny, I wasn't making any direct comments about the Custer Battle, as I didn't see the Discovery Channel special. I'm only questioning whether it had been "tweaked" since the same production company and network made them both.

I was making reference to the Alamo program and what was done with it.

[TEXASPROUD]

Texas size ping to squantos, and a hearty thank you to Sam.
This is one of the reasons I chose my screen name

[MamaB]

You did a great job. When my brother was in the Air Force many years ago and was stationed out there, he would spend hours and hours at the Alamo. He said you could "feel" the ghostly figures of the brave men who fought at the Alamo. Why do people want to change history. If they do that, then it is not history but fiction! When I started college, I wanted to major in history but did not. I "love" to read about history. One of the best writers about the old west is William Johnstone. Check out his "Eagles" series. He is great and is good about writing back to his fans. I think he lives in Louisiana. He also has the terrific "Ashes" series.

[SAMWolf]

I love the "Ashes" Series!

Ben Raines where are you now that we need you.

[SAMWolf]

Custer definately screwed up big time at the Little Big Horn. He split his forces, left behind the Gatling guns, attacked a superior force, had inadequate intelligence and the list goes on.

[docmcb]

It would be hard to find a beter example of nobility than the thirty-two men from Gonzales who entered the Alamo midway through the siege. Except maybe the courier James Bonham who rode back into the Alamo to tell them that the relief force they were counting on, under Fannin, wasn't going to arrive.

[RikaStrom]

The Eagle series is terrific, I wish there were more of them.

Also excellent are the Mountain Man series.

LOL, I'd live in Tri-States any day.

[VOA]

It would be hard to find a beter example of nobility than the thirty-two men from
Gonzales who entered the Alamo midway through the siege.

Very similar to something I occassionally bring up with some of the immigrant students
in our lab during bull-sessions about American politics.

I tell them that the actor Jimmy Stewart actually went on a weight-gaining regime
so that the Army Air Corps would allow him the privilege of flying B-17's
and possibily get a seat load of flak for his troubles.
They look at me like "what kind of crazy man was he?".

I tell him that Stewart wass, fortunately, the sort of crazy man the USA has found
at the right time and place for all it's history.

[MamaB]

I started reading Johnstone's books many, many years ago and got hooked on them. The only series I do not like is the "Cat" one. Not my style. Have you read the "Rig Warrior" series of 3 books. There is one about terrorists which is so current although it was written in the 80's, I think. Have you read "Prey" and "Hunted"? They are very interesting. As you can tell, I am a big fan of Johnstone. I wonder if he is on FR!!! Yep, where is Ben Raines when this country needs him!!!!! Like he said in one of the books, the Tri-States philosophy is common sense which liberals do not have very much of. If anyone out there has not read any of Johnstone's books, now is a good time to start.

[RikaStrom]

LOL, I have a collection and no one is allowed to borrow them. I threaten people with pain of dismemberment if one of my Johnstone books goes missing.

I have "Prey"; "Hunted" and the prequel "Watcher in the Woods". The entire Mountain Main and Last Mountain Man series. All of the Ashes books, The Rig Warrior set, the "Codename" set (there are only four of them) and I think all of his horror novels, except maybe one. The one set I don't have that I am still looking for are the Blood Bond series. It's also a western but I am not sure how many books are in it, it's so very hard to get his stuff used.

The only books I didn't much care for are the new westerns he's doing.. The Last Gunfighter. But you know, I figure I like everything else... LOL.

I am a huge fan of his and I would not be at all surprised if he lurked FR. I would love to see some form of his common sense government come into action.

[SAMWolf]

Johnstone also wrote an excellent book called "Breakdown", about a possible second American Revolution.

[Sparta]

Ben Raines and William W. Johnstone bump!!!