Violence prompts closer look at plight of divorced fathers

The Star-Ledger ^ | November 25, 2002 | DAVID CRARY

[RogerFGay]

One divorced father committed suicide on the steps of San Diego's courthouse, while another set his car afire outside Alaska's child support office. Others, in an all-too-common scenario, killed their ex-wives, their children, then themselves.

Men who snap in such violent ways have few defenders. Yet fathers' rights groups, joined by a few academic experts, see a common denominator in these recent bursts of rage, and ask whether America's family court system could be partly at fault by deepening the despair of many divorced men.

[Saundra Duffy]

but the father-child bond is treated as a second-rate relationship

You're right, pal, that is very wrong. God bless you. Hang in there. Your kids need you.

[Intimidator]

That would be nice but alot of mothers use the high child support to 'punish' the dad for whatever ill feelings they feel towards him.

[Rebelbase]

"I'm sure no one would argue that this gives me license to go shooting anyone"

Who has a license to go around shooting anyone anyway?

[Catspaw]

Let's be positive. At least in this article, Roger the Swede didn't try to deify John Mohammed as a poor, misunderstood non-custodial father who was compelled to murder 11 or so people in five or six states because his ex-wife done him wrong.

[Xenalyte]

Maybe the problem is really rampant and far too-easy divorce.

What you said. Do you have enough asbestos, or would you like to borrow some of mine? It's about to get WARM in here.

[MEGoody]

"Maybe the problem is really rampant and far too-easy divorce."

Exactly.

[EternalVigilance]

Thank you. I will...they mean the world to me.

We're going to be spending the weekend together...can't wait.

[Rebelbase]

Feminist.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Thats true. He did it in the last one, and then I guess he felt too much heat from it.

I guess rewording it a little and taking out the John Muhammed lionization piece makes it a little more palatable here.

[Saundra Duffy]

I don't think it's always about the amount of money the Dad's have to pay. I think it's about the harassment that goes on by the ex and the court system in cahoots with each other. It's a nightmare beyond belief! If you have a vicious ex wife - AND THERE ARE LOTS OF THEM OUT THERE - and throw in a corrupt, inept and evil court system which treats the Dad like crap - you have the makings for a disaster. Of course, there's no excuse for violence but this system perpetuates it just the same.

[EternalVigilance]

Who has a license to go around shooting anyone anyway?

Bond. James Bond.

I know, I know...that was too easy... ;-)

[Rebelbase]

Ha, don't lose your sense of humor! Have a Happy Thanksgiving+1 with your kids.

[EternalVigilance]

I have a friend who was recently divorced (he caught her screwing around with another guy). No kids, thankfully. But part of the divorce decree was that he was supposed to pay off all of HER credit card bills.

But that's not the worst of it. He has not done well financially since the breakup, to the extent he has gone without electricity for the past couple of months, just to have enough money to eat, meet the mortgage and pay her something.

But that wasn't enough for her. She dragged him into court last week, and it was a very left-wing judge, who knew my friends political persuasion and that of his attorney (the lawyer is also the county GOP chairman for a very large urban county).

To make a long story short, the judge told him that if he didn't get a job, any job...even if it was at McDonalds...he was going to cite him for contempt and send him to jail for a year.

Unbelievable that this sort of thing can go on in America...but it does.

[Catspaw]

He wasn't working? Did he have some medical condition that prevented him from getting a job?

[EternalVigilance]

He has been severely underemployed in his profession. As I said, its not as if he hasn't paid her anything. (Not that the traitorous ***** deserved anymore of his money anyhow).

Hard for me to understand how a judge can force someone to get a job that is outside their profession...but I guess they can.

[Stand Watch Listen]

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[Chancellor Palpatine]

"Seriously underemployed" generally equals not going out and hustling up a job when times get bad, then laying around the house in torn underwear and ragged socks.

When times get tough, that is when men generally need to explore other options and do some "caretaker" type work in order to stay focused while hunting up new careers.

I hear that when men fall into the "not working quite enough" pit, their women lose respect for them as men, and will be more available to others.

[cherry]

"Others, in an all-too-common scenario, killed their ex-wives, their children, then themselves"

just who are we supposed to feel sorry for....some disgruntled exspouse who doesn't get his way and SLAUGHTERS his entire family...or maybe just the family he killed....duh???

this guy wants us to believe that its men given the bad end of child custody that end up being so murderous...the truth is that men kill their child-less girlfriends and ex's just as routinely....

maybe its time to start wondering why men are so very violent....

I am sure it has nothing to do with the male violence towards women peddaled and bought my millions of men in this world...no, it couldn't be that.

and no, it couldn't be the continual flood of bashing and hatred and disrespect that is spewn from the likes of Tommy "the lie " Lykas...or the "Man SHow" or even these sport shows that show absolutely no respect for women in any but as servents to their needs...

its this mind-set that "I am man" and " I will have my way" no matter what that prevades our society and reinforced daily ....

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Its a slap in the face to the vast majority of men who manage to deal with their divorces sanely, and who manage to not become losers.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

I'm willing to bet that very few viewers of "The man Show" go out and act like loser psychopaths. if anything, watching silliness like that implies a sense of humor - which is a good thing.