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Freep this poll on Homeland Security.
CNN ^

Posted on 11/25/2002 11:32:19 AM PST by Sparta

Cnn.com has a poll on Homeland Security. Freep it. It's down on the lower right hand side.


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1 posted on 11/25/2002 11:32:19 AM PST by Sparta
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To: Sparta
Freeped and bumped!

Leni

2 posted on 11/25/2002 11:41:15 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: Sparta
Of course, the Democrats, Greens, Communists, and Libertarians will all vote "no".
3 posted on 11/25/2002 11:44:04 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
I meant Department of Homeland Security. LOL!!!
4 posted on 11/25/2002 11:45:10 AM PST by Sparta
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To: Sparta
As a public service, please tell us how we are supposed to respond...are we in favor of blind loyalty to President Bush and the GOP (the party of smaller government), or do we favor expanding the size of the federal government with the creation of a new 170,000 person department with unprecedented powers of intrusion?

Just wondering.

5 posted on 11/25/2002 11:45:15 AM PST by Cacophonous
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To: Cacophonous
Vote how you want for this one. Personally, I voted no.
6 posted on 11/25/2002 11:46:11 AM PST by Sparta
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To: Sparta
i'm not sure what the proper "freep" response is to that...
7 posted on 11/25/2002 11:46:19 AM PST by kpp_kpp
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To: Sparta
FReeped 'n' BUMPED.
8 posted on 11/25/2002 11:46:20 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: Sparta
Freeped....

Created: Mon Nov 25 11:17:57 EST 2002
 
Do you believe the new Department of Homeland Security will improve domestic security?
Yes Yes votes   47% 22508 votes
No No votes   53% 25031 votes
Total:  47,539 votes





9 posted on 11/25/2002 11:47:32 AM PST by Darlin'
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To: Sparta
I did too. There is, on this site, a "FreePC" answer to most of these polls.
10 posted on 11/25/2002 11:50:27 AM PST by Cacophonous
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To: Sparta
A consolidation of current departments and agencies could be an excellent thing. Unfortunately, The Department of Homeland Defense is another additional cabinet level office, which adds to the problem.

I voted no.
11 posted on 11/25/2002 11:50:49 AM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: Cultural Jihad
Of course, the Democrats, Greens, Communists, and Libertarians will all vote "no".

Perhaps, and I cannot speak to their motivations. But so will those of thus that want a smaller, less intrusive Federal Government, as described in the Constitution.

12 posted on 11/25/2002 11:52:10 AM PST by Cacophonous
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To: All
If I were able to, I'd vote no. For some unknown reason, when I go to the website, I don't have any yes or no dots on my computer to vote. :)

I don't get this bill. How is a new office, with up to 200,000 employees, supposed to make government smaller? How is a new office supposed to make Americans feel safer when this government won't enforce our borders?

13 posted on 11/25/2002 11:59:27 AM PST by IamHD
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To: Sparta
Badly worded poll, our feckless leaders security or ours? The two are entirely unrelated.
14 posted on 11/25/2002 12:02:18 PM PST by steve50
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To: steve50
Our security of course.
15 posted on 11/25/2002 12:05:32 PM PST by Sparta
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To: Cacophonous
I voted no.
16 posted on 11/25/2002 12:07:30 PM PST by mysterio
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To: All
DemonRAT Underground is yet to "dupe" this poll, so step to it. BTW: They're whining about how Bush is a dictator while praising their idol Comrade Clinton.
17 posted on 11/25/2002 12:07:34 PM PST by Sparta
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To: *FREEP!
FReeped and bumped.
18 posted on 11/25/2002 12:17:38 PM PST by anymouse
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To: Sparta
I voted yes, but deep down I think I did because I hope it will. They will spend un told billions on this.

Secretely, I do not think it will.
19 posted on 11/25/2002 1:45:11 PM PST by tall_tex
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To: kpp_kpp
I would guess No. The wager that a massive government bureaucracy will help protect us by compiling a supersized database of the things we buy and the stuff we write on the internet seems like a long-shot to me.
21 posted on 11/25/2002 5:10:56 PM PST by kcar
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To: Sparta
Wonder if the DU know what Osama bin Laden said about their idol in a letter attributed to him:

"Who can forget your President Clinton's immoral acts committed in the official Oval office? After that you did not even bring him to account, other than that he 'made a mistake', after which everything passed with no punishment. Is there a worse kind of event for which your name will go down in history and remembered by nations?"


22 posted on 11/25/2002 5:18:18 PM PST by JulieRNR21
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To: Cultural Jihad
Although not in the list you posted (I've been a life-long Republican), I voted "no." Until we close our borders, and that clearly is not their intent, there is no "homeland security."
23 posted on 11/25/2002 5:25:03 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
You are absolutely correct!! I view homeland security as a trashing of our constitution. I voted no!!

In the years to come, this forum will probably become a place where government spys will look into to see who they can take in and of course, these poor people, who had no intention of doing anything wrong, will be shown as enemies of the state (terrorists). The media will go along with it and show everyone that these people are the evil ones. This is just the government's way of getting us ready for the one world government or one world communism.

Who says communism is dead? It has found new birth in the United States.

24 posted on 11/25/2002 7:21:42 PM PST by coton_lover
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To: Sparta
I voted "yes". And while I feel security will be improved, I also believe we will experience many more attacks due to greater numbers of attempted attacks as this war broadens.

Security can greatly increase while experiencing a rise in successful attacks at the same time. I think Cheney would say the same thing.
25 posted on 11/25/2002 9:10:17 PM PST by MedicalMess
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To: Sparta
DemonRAT Underground is yet to "dupe" this poll,

Hell the DU will vote right along side of you.

26 posted on 11/25/2002 9:13:56 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: IamHD
don't get this bill. How is a new office, with up to 200,000 employees, supposed to make government smaller? How is a new office supposed to make Americans feel safer when this government won't enforce our borders?

You may want to gain at least a basic understanding of what the HSA is before you vote anyway.

27 posted on 11/25/2002 9:16:22 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Cultural Jihad
off course I voted no also, don't fit into your group of no-nos, you might add a category of thinking perople.
28 posted on 11/25/2002 9:25:13 PM PST by breakem
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To: breakem
..........if not spelling people.
29 posted on 11/25/2002 9:26:05 PM PST by breakem
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To: breakem
don't fit into your group of no-nos, you might add a category of thinking perople.

I am curious, what knowledge of the HSA did you call on to make your decision to vote no?

30 posted on 11/25/2002 9:27:04 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: IamHD
we are adding this new monstrosity because Clinton did not kick some FBI upper management butt and because he castrated the CIA. Until the issue of management ethics and accountibility are handled, they're just reshuffling deck chairs.
31 posted on 11/25/2002 9:28:30 PM PST by breakem
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To: Texasforever
I explained my position after you posted. I reviewed a summary of the bill and the divisions which make up the new agency. I believe we are in this mess because of mismanagement and lack of direction from the white house in the 90s.

I think we could have shored up our national defense without a new agency. If management continues to cover and promote subbordinates who are unethical and incompetent, it won't matter how it's organized or what you call it. If we continue to allow an open flow of people through our borders, it won't matter either. There is no right way to do a wrong thing.

32 posted on 11/25/2002 9:35:05 PM PST by breakem
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To: breakem
I think we could have shored up our national defense without a new agency.

The best way to improve the functioning of the 22 departments involved is to place them under a single point of accountability with a common mission. That is what the HSA is designed to do.

33 posted on 11/25/2002 9:39:35 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
I'm curious also, you did not ask that idiot who made the blanket comment about no voters what he knew about the newdepartment.
34 posted on 11/25/2002 9:39:53 PM PST by breakem
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To: breakem

"Thank you for validating our commonly-held ideology."

35 posted on 11/25/2002 9:42:52 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: breakem
If management continues to cover and promote subbordinates who are unethical and incompetent, it won't matter how it's organized or what you call it. If we continue to allow an open flow of people through our borders, it won't matter either. There is no right way to do a wrong thing.

It's just not in the agenda to secure our borders, and protect our sovereignty. This is clear.....

36 posted on 11/25/2002 9:43:00 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
We're approaching it all wrong. Let's see who gets appointed to what and hold our breath. Meanwhile a few thousad a week will keep coming in, including moslems.
37 posted on 11/25/2002 9:46:12 PM PST by breakem
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To: Cultural Jihad
Woody's right about 1 out of a hundred. I haven't seen you get one right yet. If I had to decide on an issue by who agreed with it, I can assure you that your endorsement would lead me in the opposite direction.
38 posted on 11/25/2002 9:47:42 PM PST by breakem
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To: breakem
I'm curious also, you did not ask that idiot who made the blanket comment about no voters what he knew about the newdepartment.

If you meant the one that talked about democrats, greens, communists, and libertarians it is a true. There is nothing wrong with blanket statements if based on fact.

39 posted on 11/25/2002 9:49:13 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Well you're just as ignorant as he if you think everyone in those groups agrees on this issue. Just as every conservative here doesn't agree.

Now you've really peeked my curiosity, why would you put yourself in such a stupid position?

40 posted on 11/25/2002 9:51:53 PM PST by breakem
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To: IamHD
EXACTLY....

41 posted on 11/25/2002 9:53:43 PM PST by 45semi
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To: breakem
Now you've really peeked my curiosity, why would you put yourself in such a stupid position

Take a poll of libertarians on the HSA and then get back to me.

42 posted on 11/25/2002 9:55:55 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Cultural Jihad
Of course, the Democrats, Greens, Communists, and Libertarians will all vote "no".

I voted no too. I don't believe it will improve anything but the governments ability to steal more rights.

43 posted on 11/25/2002 9:57:06 PM PST by farmfriend
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I voted no too. I don't believe it will improve anything but the governments ability to steal more rights.

Have you read the bill?

44 posted on 11/25/2002 9:58:06 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Take a poll of democrats, communists, greens, moslems, eskimos, and left-handed people and get back to me.

It's not my job or interest to prove the idiocy that you endorsed. You had a chance to acknowledge some common sense, but you rode into battle with the forces of ignorance. Get yourself out of it.

45 posted on 11/25/2002 10:01:18 PM PST by breakem
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To: breakem
It's not my job or interest to prove the idiocy that you endorsed. You had a chance to acknowledge some common sense, but you rode into battle with the forces of ignorance. Get yourself out of it.

Find a post from a libertarian supporting this bill and a democrat supporting this bill and I will eat my words.

47 posted on 11/25/2002 10:03:29 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
No, just general paranoia on my part. I freely admit that. That and the government never seems to do what it set out to do. I see homeland security growing into another IRS whether it was meant to be that or not.
48 posted on 11/25/2002 10:03:32 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: farmfriend
No, just general paranoia on my part. I freely admit that.

Then you are doing what the liberals do, voting your "feelings".

49 posted on 11/25/2002 10:04:37 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Dutch-Comfort
Have you read the bill?
50 posted on 11/25/2002 10:06:04 PM PST by Texasforever
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