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Transition to a Nuclear/Hydrogen Energy System
World Nuclear Association ^ | 2002 | Drs. Leon Walters, David Wade, and David Lewis

Posted on 11/27/2002 5:56:49 PM PST by AdamSelene235


 
Transition to a Nuclear/Hydrogen Energy System
 
Drs. Leon Walters, David Wade, and David Lewis
 

Abstract

The paper explores the motivation for the transition to a nuclear/hydrogen system. For such a transition to be successful the technologies employed must be able to generate enough hydrogen to displace a significant fraction of the petroleum fuels used in the transportation and process heat sectors. This hydrogen must be generated in a manner that is compatible with the environment and independent of foreign fuels.

Nuclear energy, along with contributions from wind, solar, and geothermal resources, meet the criteria of environmental compatibility and resource independence. However, nuclear energy is the only one of these sources that has a high enough energy density to generate copious quantities of hydrogen.

The status of the relevant nuclear and hydrogen technologies and how they are coupled to bring about a transition to a nuclear/hydrogen system are discussed. Should the world adopt such a system then the growth rate of nuclear energy would greatly accelerate. With an accelerated growth for nuclear energy, the uranium resources would be depleted in a few decades with the once-through fuel cycle currently in use. It is pointed out that deployment of fast breeder reactors would become important in the nearer term.

Motivation for a nuclear/hydrogen energy system

Peter Hoffman used a quote from Jules Verne’s 'The Mysterious Island' to conclude his book 'Tomorrow’s Energy, Hydrogen, Fuel Cells, and the prospects for a Cleaner Planet' [Ref 1]. That quote, written in 1874 was; Yes, my friends, I believe that water will one day be employed as fuel, that hydrogen and oxygen which constitute it, used singly or together, will furnish an inexhaustible source of heat and light…As long as the earth is inhabited, it will supply the wants of its inhabitants, and there will be no want of either light or heat as long as the production of the vegetable, mineral or animal kingdoms do not fail us.

Jules Verne, although astonishingly prophetic, could not have imagined the extent to which, in a century, the earth’s inhabitants have grown dependent on sources of fossil fuel that are exhaustible and hold the potential to disrupt the environment such that the 'the vegetable and animal kingdoms' may fail us indeed.

The technology of producing hydrogen from water has been available for development and exploitation for more than a century. Why have we not used it as a major fuel supply? Simply said, the internal cost of fossil fuel production is cheaper. Internal costs exclude the price that society must pay for the impact to health and the environment. The processes for hydrogen manufacture are energy intensive. When we make hydrogen from fossil fuels, gas, oil or coal, we use up part of the energy in the fossil fuel to make the hydrogen. In all cases the energy we use to manufacture the hydrogen is greater than the energy that we get back from the hydrogen when we use it. For example, we can make hydrogen from water by electrolysis using electricity, but we need to put in at least twice as much energy from fossil sources to make the electricity than we will get out when we use the hydrogen as fuel.

Thus, for the past century, as we have relied on energy use to grow our economy and enrich our standard of living, we have become more and more dependent on direct use of fossil fuels and more and more dependent on the decisions of a very few countries and corporations that control their production and distribution. All the while we may have been unwittingly disrupting the environment with the by-products of our growing consumption of fossil fuels. These observations are becoming increasingly evident and are underscored by the troubled situation in the Middle Eastern countries that threatens the stability of much of the world’s supply of oil. The threats to stability in the supply of oil, along with recent summit conferences that seek to forestall the growing insult to the environment from the growing use of fossil fuels, have caused society to seek alternatives.

Hydrogen, as Jules Verne predicted, may be that alternative which can provide humankind with the answer to energy security and environmental compatibility. In the US, despite political arguments over energy policy, there is general agreement that hydrogen will play an important part in our energy future. Hydrogen has properties that promise clean, efficient transportation – emitting only water as a product of its use to fuel our vehicles. No greenhouse gases, no smog-forming NOX, no particulates - just water. The fuel cell technology that uses hydrogen as a fuel gives even further environmental benefit with high efficiency conversion of hydrogen to electricity and the advantages that come from an electric-motor vehicle.

More than a third of US CO2 emissions come from the transportation sector. Use of hydrogen as fuel will give better fuel efficiency without being environmentally destructive. What more could we want? Well – how about an environmentally friendly, energy efficient, affordable way to MAKE the hydrogen?

Hydrogen is the third most abundant element on the earth's surface, where it is found primarily in water (H2O) and organic compounds. But unlike fossil fuels such as coal, oil and natural gas, molecular hydrogen (H2) needed for fuel does not exist in nature. We don’t mine it and we don’t pump it out of the ground. We have to manufacture it.

Today we make hydrogen almost exclusively by methane steam reforming. Natural gas is reacted with water at high temperature to form hydrogen and carbon dioxide. The carbon dioxide which is produced during hydrogen manufacture must be considered in any discussion of environmentally friendly hydrogen. Greenhouse gas emission reductions will not count if all we do is relocate the place where they are emitted – from the vehicle to the hydrogen manufacturing plant. This is why renewable or nuclear sources are being researched to replace steam methane reforming for hydrogen manufacture. Devising an effective hydrogen future demands that we address two questions:

  • Does the process of manufacture possess sufficient scale to supply the world with its energy needs?

  • Does the full cycle of a hydrogen economy from harvesting of energy resource to hydrogen production, distribution, use and cleanup meet our environmental standards?

Only when we have reached a level of comfort with the answers to these two questions will we have created an effective energy strategy that includes hydrogen.

Energy demand growth is a global issue, but to get a feel for numbers, let’s begin with the scale of energy use in the US alone. The US vehicle fleet accumulated 2600 billion miles in 1997 [Ref 2]. Assuming success in building a hydrogen-powered automobile fleet, we would need 0.013kg of hydrogen for every mile driven to replace the gasoline and diesel fuel [Ref 3]. If we were to manufacture the hydrogen by electrolysis we would need 240 gigawatts of new electrical generating capacity. That is almost exactly one half of the total electrical generating capacity of the US.

For perspective, recall that a typical new large coal fired or nuclear generating plant produces about 1 gigawatt. Gas-fired plants are about half that. Not unexpectedly, in light of the scale of the existing petroleum industry, we are talking about a massive scale of energy infrastructure development to replace oil with hydrogen for the US transportation sector.

Recalling that we want to do more than merely relocate where CO2 is emitted, we need a non-emitting source of energy to manufacture the hydrogen. Can we make this electricity with windmills? A state-of-the-art 0.0015 gigawatt windmill requires a footprint of about 70 acres. You can place nine of them on one square mile. To generate 240 gigawatts of electricity you would need 640 000 windmills (with a capacity factor of 0.25) and an area of 71 000 square miles (Indiana is 35 000 square miles and Ohio 40 000). The land use for windmill-based hydrogen production would be remarkably large. The land costs and disruptions would be larger still, but hydrogen is a storable energy carrier suited to the intermittence of the wind. Wind power will likely play a role.

Can biomass meet the need? The transportation sector would require the American farmer to grow an additional four times as much plant material as he does at present in order to provide enough biomass to produce the necessary hydrogen – all the while continuing to feed the American public. Biomass continues to fuel the undeveloped world, but remember that the higher energy density of fossil fuels was required to enable the industrialization of the West.

What about solar? The capital cost for solar generated electricity is between US$20 and US$25 per watt. The 240 gigawatts of generating capacity needed to replace the transportation fuel would cost more than US$4.8 trillion for the equipment alone. The 240 gigawatts of solar electric panels would occupy about 3000 square miles, the purchase of which would add to the cost. Development is warranted on more cost-effective photovoltaic panels, especially to contribute in remote, off-grid locations of small demand.

While power from new renewables (biomass, solar and wind) will contribute to local power needs, fill niche opportunities, and initiate the electrification of developing countries, they rather clearly fail to meet the scale required for manufacturing hydrogen for industrialized America’s transportation needs. The US choices for a majority of the energy to manufacture hydrogen at the required scale come down to coal and nuclear.

That takes us to the second question. Does the full cycle, from mining, to production, to distribution, to use, to clean up, meet our environmental standards? Again, consider the situation for the US as an example.

There is certainly enough domestic coal to fire the electrical plants that could provide both the electricity and the clean hydrogen needed to power the US transportation system for several hundred years. Building 240 new power plants is a big job – but not infeasible. The full hydrogen demand will develop over several decades. At only 3.5% annual growth rate, we already double our electricity production every 20 years. Growth rates for energy of 6-8% are not infeasible for industry to achieve. But coal power plants will generate carbon dioxide and other emissions requiring recovery and sequesterization; otherwise, they will be discharged into the atmosphere at a different location from our automobiles and will continue to contribute to global warming. A number of schemes have been proposed for collecting and sequestering the carbon dioxide. Some, such as injecting it into oil reservoirs, have been reduced to practice: they are costly and energy intensive. Others, such as those where the carbon dioxide would be sequestered on the deep ocean floor, are energy intensive and might create unanticipated forms of environmental damage. Yet others are simply short-term solutions.

The US is left with nuclear energy as a logical choice. Safe, reliable energy production with a secure domestic fuel supply already mined and sitting in storage sufficient for at least the next several thousand years. No reliance on a foreign trading partner controlling the energy resource, no greenhouse gases or NOX emissions – and scant increase in cost. The US situation is similar to numerous of the OECD countries where nuclear is an established industry and an important segment of the electricity supply infrastructure.

What is the problem? The problem is the public’s perception of the 'unsolved' nuclear waste issue. The ironic thing about waste is that the cost of disposing of nuclear waste is already included in the cost of generating electricity from reactors – whereas the cost of disposing of the 'waste' CO2, NOX, etc. from other energy sources is not. Even renewables generate waste emissions over their life cycle – e.g. emissions and waste from energy use to manufacture the windmills and solar panels, gasoline and diesel used to plant and harvest biomass, etc. What would be the result of adding all the costs of waste management to all energy sources?

A ten-year study by the European Community was designed to quantify the external costs of electricity production [Ref 4]. It showed that the cost of producing electricity from coal or oil would more than double. The cost of electricity production from gas would increase by at least 30% if external costs such as damage to the environment and to health, which is currently not included in the price of the energy, were taken into account (this excludes the cost of global warming). Currently, such costs are not billed to consumers, but are nonetheless an expense for society at large. According to the study, the costs to the environment of producing electricity from natural gas, coal and nuclear - taking into account the entire fuel cycle and covering costs not currently accounted for such as damage to the environment and health - would add 1-4US¢/kWh for gas, 3-10US¢/kWh for coal, but just 0.2-0.5US¢/kWh for nuclear. These are not numbers from a nuclear advocacy group but from the decade long EXTERN-E study conducted by the European Community. In their view, just 0.2-0.5US¢/kWh will pay all of the external environmental costs of nuclear power which are not already included. That is by far the smallest added expense among all the options. When linked to the vision of a clean, non-emitting hydrogen future, the notion of affordable, non-emitting hydrogen production from nuclear energy can become an attractive alternative in a thoughtful comparison of alternatives.

The discussion of required scale has focused on industrialized nations, but the dramatic growth of energy use will be in developing economies – most of which currently use energy per capita at one tenth or less of the rate in industrialized nations. In his keynote speech at the World Hydrogen Congress in Montreal last June, Geoffrey Ballard said [Ref 5]:

  • For society to continue its progress in medicine, social responsibility, science, education and quality of life we must assure that there is an ever increasing supply of energy per capita.;

and he said:

  • It is also paramount that Europe and North America develop and export economically sound, clean technologies to emerging nations. Carbon-based economies, supplying energy in the quantities necessary to assure progress in developing nations would completely destroy Earth’s fragile atmosphere.

Hydrogen is unquestionably the transportation fuel of the future. As we move forward in the next several decades, it must be adopted worldwide to make any significant impact on reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. In the near term it will be manufactured from coal, oil, natural gas and electricity generated primarily from fossil fuels. However, the energy to manufacture hydrogen must come increasingly from nuclear power. If the world is to achieve energy security and protect the global environment, then nuclear is the least costly and cleanest option that can meet the scale of deployment required.

Status of the relevant technologies and technical feasibility of a nuclear/ hydrogen economy

Technologies for hydrogen production

Hydrogen has been produced for more than a century by a vast number of schemes. All that is needed is water or some other chemical compound containing hydrogen and a source of energy in the form of electricity, heat, or radiation to extract the hydrogen. Today, the steam reforming of natural gas generates 95% of all hydrogen. The heat to drive the reaction is produced by burning part of the natural gas feedstock with the consequent by-product generation of additional carbon dioxide. Thus, from a greenhouse gas perspective, there is not much to be gained should this means of generating hydrogen be used in the long term to supply hydrogen for the transportation sector. Nonetheless, hydrogen generated from natural gas is economically important for the world and should not be minimized just because the process generates carbon. More than half of the hydrogen produced is used today to manufacture ammonia-based fertilizers. These fertilizers help feed the world. Most of the rest is used to reduce sulphur emissions from high sulphur oil products. Further, this hydrogen, when added to heavy crude oil, enhances the yield of high hydrogen products such as gasoline from low-grade crude and extends the reserves.

Heat necessary to drive the reforming reactions could be supplied from nuclear energy rather than from burning part of the fossil feedstock. Advanced reforming techniques are under development which reduce the reaction temperature for steam reforming with the application of ceramic membrane science – thus opening up this possibility for nuclear-assisted steam methane reforming to several proposed classes of reactor types. Should this be the case, then while not all the carbon dioxide generated from steam methane reforming would be mitigated, at least that portion produced from the combustion of natural gas for process heat would vanish. The problem with the application of nuclear energy for this purpose is that the high outlet temperature nuclear reactors are not currently available commercially. How can we get started?

The hydrogen generation technology available for more than a century but never deployed in large scale is electrolysis of water. This technology is mature. Several manufactures offer electrolyzer units in a range of outputs. Soon to be on the market are units with a hydrogen generation rate suitable for the fuelling of a personal automobile. Units are already operating around the world, in prototype demonstrations, for the provision of central fuelling for public transportation and auxiliary energy for large buildings. An argument commonly associated with the transition to a hydrogen based transportation system is the lack of a hydrogen delivery infrastructure comparable to the current deployment of fuelling stations for internal combustion gasoline and diesel vehicles. But with electrolysis an even more ubiquitous delivery infrastructure is already in place – the electrical transmission system, as near as the receptacle on the wall. Another common observation is that electrolysis is inefficient. Electrolysis itself is highly efficient, approaching 85% or better. The power plant that generates the electricity for the electrolysis may have an efficiency of perhaps 30%, such as that for a nuclear reactor. The combined efficiency is the product of the efficiencies, which is about 25%. Even so, several studies have shown that when electricity is cheap enough, for example at off-peak rates of 2 to 3 cents per kilowatt-hour, then hydrogen can be produced at a price competitive with the price of gasoline or diesel fuel [Ref 6, Ref 7]. An electricity load-levelling advantage, based on storing hydrogen during off-peak periods, may become commercially viable in the future.

The third means of producing hydrogen is the direct 'splitting' of water in a high temperature thermochemical process. These processes have been under investigation for almost four decades. Each of the processes requires heat energy input to achieve the reaction 2H2O + heat « 2H2 + O2. Temperatures in the range of 700 to 900ºC and recyclable chemical reagents can provide the chemical reactions that result in the dissociation of the water into hydrogen and oxygen. The chemical reagents never leave the cycle, with only water as input and hydrogen and oxygen as products. The efficiencies of these processes are expected to be in the range of 40 to 50%. The most promising of these cycles are the calcium-bromine process and the sulphur-iodine process. None of the thermochemical processes have progressed to the point of commercial viability, mainly because there has not been the economic incentive to do so. But, within the past few years, incentives related to environmental benefits and energy independence have given rise to a resurgence of interest in these high temperature thermochemical cycles. A pilot-scale demonstration of the sulphur-iodine system with a high temperature helium-cooled nuclear reactor as the heat source is being planned in Japan [Ref 8].

Feasible growth of nuclear energy

Electricity constitutes about 33% of total energy use with the other 67% of the energy being used for transportation and process heat. Today there are 435 nuclear reactors in the world producing electricity for 17% of the world’s electrical needs. Nuclear energy does not currently contribute to the 67% for transportation and process heat, and thus contributes only 6% of the world’s total energy. If nuclear energy continues to supply electricity only, then the maximum contribution of nuclear energy to the world’s future energy needs is capped at 33% to 50%. By only supplying electricity, nuclear energy cannot provide an ultimate solution for independence from foreign oil and gas, nor can it be the final answer to the elimination of the enhanced greenhouse effect. Nuclear production of hydrogen provides the avenue for entry into the other two thirds of the energy market because hydrogen can substitute for any and all fossil energy applications. But what advances in nuclear technologies would be required?

In terms of technology maturity, the nuclear reactor variations fall into three categories. The first category constitutes nearly all the 435 reactors that are commercially producing electricity today. For the most part, these reactors are water-cooled, thermal reactors that are initially fuelled with either natural uranium or low enriched uranium. The capacity factors for these reactors are high, the accumulated safety record excellent, and within the past few years they have been economically competitive throughout the world. The coolant outlet temperatures are a maximum of 400ºC, and thus too low for use in thermochemical cycles for the direct splitting of water or even for nuclear-assisted steam methane reforming. However, they can couple to electrolysis as soon as a market for hydrogen exists at a scale to induce producers to enter. Near the end of fuel life, about 40% of the energy from an LWR originates from plutonium that is bred into the fuel from the conversion of the fertile 238U. However, these reactors are overall net consumers of fissionable uranium from virgin ore, so in the long run the LWR once-through fuel cycle technology is not sustainable once the uranium resources are exhausted.

The second category of reactors is the sodium-cooled fast reactors that were designed not only to generate electricity but also to breed net fissile from 238U and extend the uranium resources from decades to thousands of years. Several countries have brought these to the brink of commercialization. Operating experience with these reactors has been excellent. The main reason they have not been commercially deployed is that their capital cost has been substantially greater than the current water-cooled reactors. The issues surrounding the proliferation of nuclear weapons are also of concern because reprocessing of the fuel containing the bred plutonium is necessary. Additionally, since there is no near-term shortage of uranium, a near-term need to breed additional fissile material does not exist. The peak coolant outlet temperature for the sodium-cooled fast reactors is 600ºC. This temperature is still too low for direct use of the heat for the thermochemical splitting of water but could couple with steam reforming of methane and/or electrolysis. The Russian nuclear programme has been developing a lead-cooled fast reactor. Lead coolant holds the potential of coolant outlet temperatures in the range of 850 to 900ºC – high enough for thermochemical water cracking.

The final category of nuclear reactor is the gas-cooled high temperature reactors. An early (Magnox) design was commercialized and, with the Advanced Gas Reactor (AGR) successor design, has had successful commercial operation in Great Britain and France. These older gas-cooled reactors are now being phased out because they are not economically competitive. A second class of gas-cooled reactor, based on coated particle fuels, was developed in the US and Germany. While commercialization was never reached, many variations are in the conceptual stage and a few small experimental reactors have been built and operated. South Africa is revisiting the pebble bed gas-cooled reactor, successfully demonstrated by Germany. They believe that they will have a commercial prototype ready for the market within a decade. The peak coolant outlet temperatures for these reactors will be in the range of 900ºC and one of their principal purposes is hydrogen production by thermochemical water splitting.

Figure 1 illustrates a time evolution of increasing reactor temperatures able to support various hydrogen manufacturing technologies.

Transition to a nuclear/hydrogen economy

Criteria for a commercially viable nuclear/hydrogen system

A transportation system based upon nuclear-generated hydrogen will not begin to emerge until nuclear energy is accepted on its own virtues. First and foremost, nuclear energy must compete favourably with all other major forms of energy production from an economic viewpoint. It has begun to do so now, even without the advantage of external costs being factored into the total cost. Public concern with safety issues associated with nuclear power seem to be diminishing as the lessons learned from past events are implemented and the safety record remains unblemished by further events. The safety trust is still fragile, such that an additional event, even with no casualties, would have a large unfavourable impact on the future of nuclear energy. Waste and nonproliferation issues, although technically under control now, with a number of plausible paths, remain a major concern in the minds of much of the public. These issues must simply diminish in importance as the benefits of nuclear power are perceived to outweigh the perceived risks: benefits of economy, reduction of the insult to the environment by avoidance of carbon dioxide and other pollutants, and the possibility of energy independence. When these benefits are understood by a large fraction of society, nuclear energy will be able to move out of its small niche of 17% of the electricity for the grid to the huge market in the transportation sector. It may well be that the vision of an essentially inexhaustible nuclear resource, when coupled with the production of environmentally friendly hydrogen, is the catalyst that will lead to a new wave of rapid deployment of nuclear energy.

All automobile companies hold an intense interest in hydrogen-fuelled transportation. A hydrogen internal combustion engine now compares well with gasoline and diesel engines. Within a few years fuel cell cars will achieve the same level. To be a contender in the market these hydrogen-propelled vehicles will have to have a cost, convenience, or safety advantage. Assuming that they will be a contender on that basis, then a convenient and economic fuelling system must emerge. A disconnect exists here. Currently, all the hydrogen is produced from centralized methane reforming, but a national hydrogen pipeline system does not exist. The capital needed to put in place a hydrogen pipeline system will not appear until a market for the hydrogen exists. This market will not exist until the use of hydrogen vehicles is widespread and fuel is conveniently available. This 'chicken and egg' dilemma can be solved by the introduction of a dispersed system of electrolyzers for the production of hydrogen that depends upon the convenient electrical distribution system already in place coupled to inexpensive off-peak electricity.

The cost of driving a mile by the use of hydrogen produced by electrolysis must be close to that for gasoline for this to happen. It was pointed out earlier that the cost differential is small without invoking any special considerations for hydrogen fuel not being a carbon dioxide producer [Ref 6, Ref 7]. These considerations were based on the assumption of the availability of cheap electricity, such is now available from hydro or the off-peak operation of nuclear power plants. Substitution of hydrogen for gasoline, in the transportation sector, will require much more new electricity than renewables could reasonably produce.

Transition to sustainability

The transition to a complete nuclear/hydrogen economy could take three or more decades. Figure 1 summarizes the time evolution of possible nuclear hydrogen options. The 435 reactors currently deployed could be producing hydrogen today with their off-peak power by electrolysis. Within two decades, should a national will exist to do so, hydrogen could be produced with sodium-cooled fast reactors by electrolysis or by use of nuclear heat to assist traditional methane cracking. Potentially, hydrogen could be produced even by the use of nuclear heat to assist in the thermochemical cracking of water. This latter application would require the combustion of a fraction of the product hydrogen to reach the required temperature for the thermochemical reactions. Finally, within three to four decades, reactors may be available whose outlet temperatures are high enough that any of the hydrogen production schemes are options. These would couple symbiotically with sodium-cooled fast reactors to extend the uranium resource to many countries.

Ultimately, the vision is that nuclear energy would become the vital link in the energy supply chain. This vision has emerged as one element in the US Department of Energy’s Generation-IV deliberations. In collaboration with the Generation-IV International Forum of ten nations, this initiative is considering the R&D required for the next phase of nuclear energy. In Generation-IV planning, nuclear power is no longer being thought of as simply a source of electricity for the grid, but as suitable for other energy services as well. Figure 2 reflects this vision. This figure reflects the fact that a huge market may very well develop for the non-electric products of nuclear power.

Should this new market develop for nuclear power, then what can be said of the current projections for the longevity of the uranium resource? Currently, the most optimistic growth rate for nuclear power is about 2.5% per year. This translates to nuclear power holding on to 17% of the electricity produced for the grid. At this growth rate the uranium resource recoverable at £ 130US$/kgU would last for fifty years or more and there is no immediate economic incentive to change the inefficient once-through use of uranium [Ref 9]. Thus, though there may be an incentive for waste management purposes, there is no resource shortage incentive to rekindle the interest in fast reactors for the breeding of fissile material from 238U. However, should this vision of nuclear power moving into the non-electric market materialize, then projections for growth rates of nuclear power may double or triple. Should this happen, then the sustainability of the nuclear/hydrogen option would immediately be questioned on the basis of ore availability. Fast breeder reactors should receive a great deal of renewed attention in that case.

Figure 3 reflects the coupling of the nuclear and hydrogen technologies in a manner that stresses their role in sustainability; it emphasizes many of the points made previously. The figure shows the coupling of the particular reactor type to the method of hydrogen generation and the time line for doing so. Of special significance in regard to sustainability is the vision, displayed on the figure, that when these two technologies are coupled properly the net impact to the environment is essentially neutral. Uranium moves into the system from the geosphere and is recycled until completely fissioned to produce energy and fission products. Only the fission products flow out of the system as waste and back into the geosphere, where they decay back to the level of the original uranium ore within a few hundred years. Water moves into the system from the atmosphere, hydrogen and oxygen are produced, transported to the point of utilization, recombined for energy extraction, and returned to the atmosphere as water vapour. This ecologically neutral energy supply architecture is what humankind must achieve if our way of life is to be sustained in the long term.

Conclusions

Although interest in hydrogen as an energy carrier has emerged repeatedly as an option for more than a century, it has never succeeded in becoming a major player in the energy market. There simply have never been the incentives to develop the option seriously. At the dawn of the 21st century the incentives now exist. They are driven by widespread social sensitivity to protecting the environment. Most importantly, many nations see an urgency to grow their economies independent of foreign oil supplies and free of energy sources of limited duration. A key enabling breakthrough is the recent success in the development of the fuel cell energy converter.

Hydrogen, when produced from fossil fuels, is not the long-term answer to these concerns because environmental compatibility or energy independence would not be achieved. Wind, solar and geothermal can contribute to carbon-free hydrogen manufacture more easily than to electricity production (which can’t be stored), but they simply do not possess the energy density required to generate the copious quantities of hydrogen required for fully industrialized societies. Thus, nuclear fission becomes the only primary energy source that can generate enough hydrogen to fuel the world’s economies in a carbon dioxide free manner.

The transition to a nuclear/hydrogen economy can begin today with the current generation of nuclear reactors and the mature electrolysis technology. Nuclear energy can support a cleaner use of fossil fuel through nuclear assisted steam methane reforming for heavy oil enhancement. Finally, highly efficient carbon-free means of producing hydrogen by coupling advanced high temperature nuclear reactors with thermochemical processes is on the horizon.

The modest growth rate predicted for nuclear power would greatly increase should this vision of a nuclear/hydrogen economy materialize. Uranium resources would be depleted within a few decades without the deployment of fast breeder reactors in symbiosis with the existing and new reactor types. Thus, for a transition to a nuclear driven hydrogen economy to be sustainable, the nuclear side of the equation must include not only the tie to hydrogen generation but also to the breeding of fissile from fertile uranium.

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1 posted on 11/27/2002 5:56:49 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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To: AdamSelene235
I'm not going to write 5496 words on the subject but I do have this to say.

Nuclear is a short-term and ultimately messy power source.

We should invest in low cost to orbit launch technologies and build Solar Power Stations in Earth orbit. We have the technology to do this NOW. It is only a matter of engineering.

Beam the power down to receivers via microwaves and have all the non-polluting electricity we will ever need.
2 posted on 11/27/2002 6:12:05 PM PST by The Shootist
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To: *Energy_List
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3 posted on 11/27/2002 6:18:15 PM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: AdamSelene235; *tech_index; Mathlete; Apple Pan Dowdy; grundle; beckett; billorites; ...
Interesting article, thanks for posting it!

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4 posted on 11/27/2002 6:19:56 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: AdamSelene235
The "greenies" have the nuclear fission reactor industry in a stranglehold, and they have already won the hearts (not the minds) of the general public.

If we want to be able to kiss off dependence upon foreign fuel sources, we must fully exploit our own coal reserves, our nuclear fission capabilities as well as push for the development of commercial fusion reactors.

Once controlled nuclear fusion is a reality, then we can truly move to a "hydrogen based" economy.
5 posted on 11/27/2002 6:28:18 PM PST by Rebel_Ace
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To: Rebel_Ace
The "greenies" have the nuclear fission reactor industry in a stranglehold, and they have already won the hearts (not the minds) of the general public.

It doesn't need to be popular just legal. How anyone can accept coal but object to fission is beyond me.

Once controlled nuclear fusion is a reality, then we can truly move to a "hydrogen based" economy.

Fission will do just fine. Creating a transportable fuel is the trick.

6 posted on 11/27/2002 6:34:30 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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To: The Shootist
Worth noting, this advertisement was produced and paid for by the nuclear energy industry, not an impartial organization.

For example, the information about natural gas processing as just changing the location of the release of CO2 into the atmosphere, is false.

Looks like the nuclear power industry still can't just be honest and trust the public with the virtues of nuclear power for what they are. I'm pro-nuke, but I wish they'd quit lying when they don't even have to--these PR abortions remind me of clinton.
7 posted on 11/27/2002 6:37:26 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: The Shootist
As a boy, I read a book that espoused the same strategy. Several years ago, my law firm employed a physics Ph.D. as a patent lawyer. I asked him whether this microwave-beaming would work; he snorted "no." Any other physicists out there who care to explain yea or nay on this idea?
8 posted on 11/27/2002 6:44:03 PM PST by maro
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To: hinckley buzzard
For example, the information about natural gas processing as just changing the location of the release of CO2 into the atmosphere, is false.

Well, don't just leave us hanging, explain why its false. Are you saying that reforming methane partitions the carbon into a non-releasable form?

9 posted on 11/27/2002 6:59:41 PM PST by NilesJo
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To: Rebel_Ace
"Once controlled nuclear fusion is a reality, then we can truly move to a "hydrogen based" economy."

And just when will that be? I work for a company that's developing fusion energy and for the last twenty years its always been twenty years away. I don't expect that to change for quite a long time.

10 posted on 11/27/2002 7:03:54 PM PST by NilesJo
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To: Rebel_Ace
"we must fully exploit our own coal reserves..."

Energy from a coal plant that totally pays for the cost of it's fuel, emissions control and waste cleanup will cost more than nuclear. It will also put out much more CO2 than gas or oil (higher carbon concentration) and will emit more radioactivity into the atmosphere than a nuclear plant.

11 posted on 11/27/2002 7:10:30 PM PST by NilesJo
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To: maro; The Shootist
As a boy, I read a book that espoused the same strategy. Several years ago, my law firm employed a physics Ph.D. as a patent lawyer. I asked him whether this microwave-beaming would work; he snorted "no." Any other physicists out there who care to explain yea or nay on this idea?

It could be done. Going to space is expensive. Solar energy isn't particularly dense (although its a bit more viable in space than on the ground).

Possible, yes. Cost effective, only if you're smokin the good stuff.

Fission works and is cost effective (especially when you don't regulate it to death). France is 80% nuclear.

The problem is the replacement of fossil fuels. Hydrogen is about 7 times less dense than gasoline. There should also be a way to go from nuke to ethanol. Energy, as Blake says, is eternal delight. The $10,000 question is can it be done in a cost effective manner?

12 posted on 11/27/2002 7:12:48 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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To: NilesJo; Rebel_Ace
Energy from a coal plant that totally pays for the cost of it's fuel, emissions control and waste cleanup will cost more than nuclear. It will also put out much more CO2 than gas or oil (higher carbon concentration) and will emit more radioactivity into the atmosphere than a nuclear plant.

Additionally, there are ppm of uranium, thorium and halfnium in coal. If you burn a billion tons of coal (and we do), you throw thousands of tons of radioactive waste into the atmosphere.

Incidentally, there is more energy in the trace radioactive materials in coal, than there is in the coal itself.

So we have a choice between burying (or in the case of a breeder recycling waste into fuel) radioactive waste or breathing it. And we have chosen to breathe radioactive waste rather than bury or recycle it

Thank you, environmentalists.

13 posted on 11/27/2002 7:19:11 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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To: AdamSelene235
Fusion is a long way off, if it's possible at all. And so are all the alternatives. Nuclear power is the only practical way out of our energy dependence.

But the public has been brainwashed on this issue for twenty years. It would be an enormous fight to change the perception, because the liberal press would be certain to see it as an opportunity to kill the conservative movement.

Yes, this is the only answer. Already the French get 70% of their power from nuclear plants. But the leftist politicians and the media will probably never let it happen.
14 posted on 11/27/2002 7:46:50 PM PST by Cicero
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To: NilesJo
I did not mean to imply that Hydrogen Fusion reactors were "just around the corner". The technical hurdles are indeed staggering. I am simply stating that it needs to be a goal, since it offers the multiple advantages of nearly limitless energy from ordinary water, very little in the way of toxic residue, and the chance to tell all the third world dictators with oil wells to "shove it".

As far as our own U.S. coal reserves...

Is coal a fairly dirty power source? It sure can be, look at how it is used in China. There are cleaner and more efficient ways to burn and process it. It will still release scads of junk in the air, though. My point here is that it's OURS, on OUR soil, under OUR control, and we need to exercise the leverage that gives us, if for nothing else, the short term while other technologies are developed and deployed.
15 posted on 11/27/2002 8:01:19 PM PST by Rebel_Ace
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To: Rebel_Ace
I did not mean to imply that Hydrogen Fusion reactors were "just around the corner". The technical hurdles are indeed staggering. I am simply stating that it needs to be a goal, since it offers the multiple advantages of nearly limitless energy from ordinary water, very little in the way of toxic residue, and the chance to tell all the third world dictators with oil wells to "shove it".

Why are you so fixated on fusion? Fission is here and it works fine.

I've worked on DOE fusion projects and they have *nothing* to do with building power plants. They just spin it to the public that way.

16 posted on 11/27/2002 8:52:20 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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To: Cicero
But the public has been brainwashed on this issue for twenty years. It would be an enormous fight to change the perception, because the liberal press would be certain to see it as an opportunity to kill the conservative movement.

They don't like fission but they want cheap energy.

They don't like oil but they'll use it despite their beliefs.

They don't like our involvement in the Middle East but they have sabotaged all alternatives.

17 posted on 11/27/2002 8:55:18 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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To: The Shootist
Shootist,

How much energy do think can be transmitted through radio signal? Have you actually asked any antenna designers if this can done?

Regards,
Boiler Plate

18 posted on 11/27/2002 9:00:44 PM PST by Boiler Plate
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To: maro
Maro,

I used to work for COMSAT and we built antennas all over the world. There are numerous problems with transmitting anything let alone high power signals. First of all the orbitting power station will have to be in geosynchronous orbit and the airspace from the satellite to the earthstation would have to be closely gaurded as it would vaporize anything that passed through. There will be tremendous losses in the atmosphere and heat all the moisture in the air the beam passes through. It would be next to impossible to focus the beam with a foot print much smaller than a city the size of Indianapolis. The earthstation would have to be very remote in which case terrestrial transmission losses would be very high. The radio signal harmonics from a signal with the same power as a nuke plant would make all other radio communication impossible for hundreds of miles and finally the posibility of the sattelite malfunctioning, becoming disoriented and sending a death ray marching across the country may be somewhat worse than just about any nuke accident that could ever happen.

In short I don't really think it is good idea. Maybe we ought to stick with nukes.

Regards,
Boiler Plate

19 posted on 11/27/2002 9:22:24 PM PST by Boiler Plate
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To: Boiler Plate; maro
"There will be tremendous losses in the atmosphere and heat all the moisture in the air the beam passes through."

And then Global Warming wouldn't just be a boogey-man.

At a 50% loss (HA!) we would effectively be doubling the amount of waste heat dumped into the environment, and it would also require twice the area of solar panels to produce the required energy.
20 posted on 11/27/2002 9:42:21 PM PST by calenel
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To: AdamSelene235
bump
21 posted on 11/27/2002 9:54:48 PM PST by Centurion2000
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To: calenel
Calenel,

The atmospheric losses would not be in double digits, however even 2% loss of a gigawatt (the size of most nuke plants) would be 20 megawatts. The real danger is a decent size cloud could be very troublesome. Essential microwave is what you have on your kitchen counter and heats your food by radiating energy into the moisture or water in your food. Thats why a corningware plate doesn't heat up but the food does. Most likely the power transmission woul have to be interrupted every time a cloud passes by.

What you have then is the same thing we now have with wind power. Wind power actually uses more power than it creates simply because it is so unreliable and unsteady. This unsteadiness causes ripples in the overall grid that has to be overcome by yet more power genration.

The best answer to the energy crises is actually LED lights and other sustainable building design elements. The LEDs use a third less power than flourescent and last for about ten years. The reduction in the heat losses in the lighting will reduce AC costs so overall the average office building will see a 15 to 30 percent reduction in electricity usage. When you take all the office buildings across the US it would come out to be a lot more than all the generation we could get from orbiting space stations. BTW did I mention how big a one gigawatt transmiter would be? As a rough guess I'd say about the same size as a US navy destroyer. That's a lot of space shuttle flights.

I don't think this idea is going to happen in our lifetime.

Regards,
Boiler Plate

22 posted on 11/27/2002 10:14:05 PM PST by Boiler Plate
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To: Rebel_Ace
I am simply stating that [fusion] needs to be a goal, since it offers the multiple advantages of nearly limitless energy from ordinary water, very little in the way of toxic residue, and the chance to tell all the third world dictators with oil wells to "shove it".

I agree that fusion should be a goal but keep your time expectation realistic (30-50 years) and have a backup plan in the event it never comes to commercial fruition which is a very real possibility. Incidentally currently envisioned fusion schemes do produce significant toxic wastes as a result of the need to frequently replace the plasma chamber blanket which is highly activated by the intense neutron radiation.

We certainly do agree that this country MUST develop independent and practical energy sources for strategic reasons. However I believe, based on facts and figures, that the ONLY practical and reliable energy technology in todays world that can lead to strategic independence with acceptable environmental impact and safety is new generation nuclear fission reactors. Even starting today it will take 10 years minimum to license and construct new reactors that can begin to contribute to the goal of independence. The first such reactors will merely replace the older reactors that will be shut down and taken out of service, hence no net gain for many years.

23 posted on 11/28/2002 12:07:03 AM PST by NilesJo
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To: AdamSelene235
But the public has been brainwashed on this issue for twenty years. It would be an enormous fight to change the perception, because the liberal press would be certain to see it as an opportunity to kill the conservative movement. They don't like fission but they want cheap energy. They don't like oil but they'll use it despite their beliefs. They don't like our involvement in the Middle East but they have sabotaged all alternatives.

Nuclear energy has proven to be safer, far cleaner and cheaper than fossil fuels. It holds out the promise of strategic energy independence. It is the single developed source today that can solve our eventual energy crisis within a reasonable time frame.

So, if the Liberals and Greens still oppose nuclear energy, they are operating from an agenda that is not focused on a real solution to these real problems but rather one that is anti-capitalism, anti-corporation and anti-free market. They understand that an energy crisis has the potential to create an economic and political crisis in this country. This in turn will undermine the public confidence and produce political instability - the opening that the socialists hope for in order that a desperate citizenry might embrace their anti-capitalist alternative.

24 posted on 11/28/2002 12:32:29 AM PST by NilesJo
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To: AdamSelene235
YES!
25 posted on 01/29/2003 9:28:37 PM PST by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
Glad you liked my post....
26 posted on 01/29/2003 10:06:58 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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To: Carry_Okie
I hate these long ones. I can never finish reading them. OK, no surprise there.
27 posted on 01/29/2003 10:26:20 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: Boiler Plate
You guys are the experts, what about biomass, pros and cons?

From what I read it has a closed carbon cycle and may actually sequester additional carbon in roots for certain perennial crops. Also what about methane from different sources like landfills and wastewater treatment?

Is this all BS or just not doable because of cost? It a good thought that we could grow and poop some of our own energy sources.

Anybody?

28 posted on 01/29/2003 10:54:25 PM PST by this_ol_patriot
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To: this_ol_patriot
My wife asked me about the Hydrogen Initiative after President Bush's SOTU speech and I told about an article Jay Leno (Yes that Jay Leno, he is a true automotive nut and expert) wrote a couple of months ago on the subject of Alternative Fuels. The bottom line is we already have the alternative fuel and the distribution system for it. Check out the Audi A2 TDI. This car, which seats 5, goes close to 80 miles a gallon. It is also on the road and being sold today, just not in the US. Would I buy one? Yes. Would everyone buy one? No. However the point is, the high efficiency cars already exist and the fuel can be sourced from something other than a oil field as this car can run on bio-diesel.

Now onto to hydrogen. It is a pain the butt to handle, distribute and store. Furthermore unless you are planing to burn pure oxygen with it in lieu of air your are still going to get a lot of the same pollutants we presently get. Gasoline is a hydrocarbon and the theoretical byproduct of it's combution is theoretically Water and Carbon DiOxide. However since air (which is mostly Nitrogen and lots of gases other than oxygen)is used as the oxidizing agent we have all kinds of byproducts mostly Nitrous Oxides (NOx).

So it is a swell idea but I seriously doubt anything will happen in the next couple of decades.

29 posted on 01/31/2003 6:30:05 PM PST by Boiler Plate
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To: maro; The Shootist
I asked him whether this microwave-beaming would work; he snorted "no"

The answer why is found in the article:

The 240 gigawatts of generating capacity needed to replace the transportation fuel would cost more than US$4.8 trillion for the equipment alone. The 240 gigawatts of solar electric panels would occupy about 3000 square miles, the purchase of which would add to the cost.
Visualize the cost of transporting 3000 square miles of solar cells into orbit. It is cost-prohibitive. The act of launching that many shuttle flights would be an environmental disaster in itself. It only starts looking feasible in the context of having industry in space, with raw materials coming from the asteroid belt. Short answer: not this decade.

Nuclear is the only solution that is demonstratably workable within a twenty-year horizon

30 posted on 01/31/2003 6:49:29 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (To see the ultimate evil, visit the Democrat Party)
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