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Henry Kissinger: This Man Is On The Other Side
American Opinion ^ | June 1975 | William P. Hoar

Posted on 11/28/2002 2:39:34 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Mulder
Things I just doubt any politician would say, except in the Protocols of Zion:

if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated

all peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil

The one thing every man fears is the unknown.

individual rights will be willingly relinquished

I sincerely doubt even the Bilderbergers talk this way. Such people cloak their intentions in euphemisms, even when talking among themselves. That's because many of them like to pretend (or may sincerely believe) that their intentions are only the best. Open talk of deceit and manipulations makes their self-image harder to maintain.

For instance, the Nazis never talked about killing all the Jews. In official documents, right to the end they referred to "resettlement" or "deportation."

Haven't you read 1984?
41 posted on 11/28/2002 4:06:58 PM PST by Restorer
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To: sinkspur
Your interpretation. Gore, with a booming economy, should have beaten Bush by 15 points.

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Interesting you should mention it. Given you assumptions, since the economic boom did not suddenly arise in two weeks, I would expect Bush to have started 15 points down instead of up. The people were desperate to vote against Gore. As it was, they perceived equality between the candidates and stayed home in disgust. Lit's see what kind of psychobabble you can come up with to deal with that.

42 posted on 11/28/2002 4:10:50 PM PST by RLK
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To: RLK
Your so deep into denial and resentment of me that you would assert the sun will rise in the West tomorrow morning.

I don't resent you. I just think you've bought into the conventional liberal interpretation of Bush.

I trust the judgement of the American people much more than I trust your Buchanan-addled opinion of the president.

43 posted on 11/28/2002 4:12:22 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Restorer
I sincerely doubt even the Bilderbergers talk this way.

It could well we that the quote is untrue, but since the Bilderbergers close their doors to we serfs, there is no way of knowing for sure.

44 posted on 11/28/2002 4:14:35 PM PST by Mulder
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To: sinkspur
I am not a Buchanan supporter. Your arguments are getting more lame and desperate while you are falling behind in the discussion. You're a loser.
45 posted on 11/28/2002 4:15:25 PM PST by RLK
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To: Restorer
Hitler called for the annihilation of the jews in 1939.

"In the course of my life I have very often been a prophet, and have usually been ridiculed for it. During the time of my struggle for power it was in the first instance the Jewish race which only received my prophecies with laughter when I said that I would one day take over the leadership of the State, and with it that of the whole nation, and that I would then among many other things settle the Jewish problem. Their laughter was uproarious, but I think that for some time now they have been laughing on the other side of their face. Today I will once more be a prophet: If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the Bolshevization of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe!"

Socialists actually talk like this all the time. Marx, Lenin, Mao and the rest all proclaimed their intention to literally slaughter the bourgeois before doing so. Kissinger is a Communist. That's why he is willing to make such outrageous statements.

46 posted on 11/28/2002 4:19:07 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: RLK
Given you assumptions, since the economic boom did not suddenly arise in two weeks, I would expect Bush to have started 15 points down instead of up. The people were desperate to vote against Gore. As it was, they perceived equality between the candidates and stayed home in disgust.

You make a great deal of where Bush started. What's important is where he finished. As President of the United States.

It was close, yes. The American people did stay home, largely, as they do every election.

But, 2002 dispelled the myth that the American people have doubts about George W. Bush. He won that election for the GOP.

47 posted on 11/28/2002 4:19:56 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: RLK
I am not a Buchanan supporter.

My mistake. I seemed to recall you having good things to say about him.

Your arguments are getting more lame and desperate while you are falling behind in the discussion. You're a loser.

And your contempt for George W. Bush clouds your better judgment. Or, maybe it's just age.

48 posted on 11/28/2002 4:22:35 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Kissinger is one of the most disgusting representatives of our species. IF he belongs to our species.
49 posted on 11/28/2002 4:35:36 PM PST by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: Common Tator

50 posted on 11/28/2002 4:43:38 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Mulder; RLK; dk/coro; Enemy Of The State; alphadog; Common Tator; Torie; ...
You are all referring to the co-chairman of the new "independent" commission to get to the bottom of 9/11. God help us all!

"If it walks like a duck etc."---why is it so far-fetched that this guy is not what he is cracked up to be? I don't see anyone disputing the facts in this article.

Those that disagree are caught up in that old Republican-Democrat sideshow. Clinton was not the first home-grown traitor--that's a tradition that goes way back and brings us right up to the present.

Thanks, Tailgunner, for posting.

51 posted on 11/28/2002 4:44:40 PM PST by attagirl
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52 posted on 11/28/2002 4:44:51 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
For every Nazi statement about killing all the Jews, I could probably find hundreds using the appropriate euphemisms.

I also suspect your quote would have been taken by most (certainly most foreign) listeners as hyperbole at the time.

Which just goes to show you that civilized listeners can't really hear what their attackers are saying. Their very civilization prevents it.

53 posted on 11/28/2002 4:46:20 PM PST by Restorer
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To: Restorer
You are so civilized, you can't hear our enemies screaming for more American blood? I guess I'm not civilized then.

The Jews didn't believe it could happen to them. Patriotic Americans don't believe that their own leaders intend to sell them out to "Transnational Progressivism" or whatever they're calling Marxism these days.

54 posted on 11/28/2002 4:56:27 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I'm not particularly civilized myself.

My comment was not intended as an endorsement of civilization-induced deafness. Quite the contrary.
55 posted on 11/28/2002 5:01:27 PM PST by Restorer
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To: Tailgunner Joe; sinkspur; RLK; All
Thank you for the long article from 1975 about Henry Kissinger.

In 1972, Henry Kissinger and Chinese Foreign Minister Qiao Guanhua included a paragraph in the Shanghai Communique with the phrase ". . .there is but one China and that Taiwan is a part of China."

Carter abrogated the 1954 mutual security treaty in 1979 when he recognized the mainland government as the sole government of all of China and dropped all official ties to Taiwan.

President Bush has recently said publicly we will do whatever is necessary to defend Taiwan, as he has reestablished our assistance in Taiwan's defense and acquisition of defensive weapons.

President Bush has appointed Condoleeza Rice his National Security Advisor; she distinguished herself by counselling firmness toward China in a key article for Foreign Relations--this at a time that Henry Kissinger warned the U.S. not to interfere in the interests of China.

President Bush's appointment of Henry Kissinger as head of a blue-ribbon commission to investigate the causes of the surprise attack on September 11, 2001, is for the purpose of bestowing maximum credibility in the form of a figurehead atop a ceremonial commission.

President Bush's appointment ought not be viewed as endorsing the China policies of Kissinger, or of seeking his advise on international matters.

Lt. Gen. Charles G. Cooper, U.S. Marine Corps (Ret.) writes in the May 1996 Proceedings in "The Day It Became the Longest War" that a key meeting of the Joint Chiefs and LBJ at the White House in November 1965 set the outcome of the war.

During that fifteen minutes, at which Cooper was an aide to the chiefs, the service heads pitched their plan to bomb Hanoi and mine Haiphong. LBJ listened, then cursed them, humiliated them, and dismissed them.

Cooper closes with:

We shall never know. But had General Wheeler and the others been given a fair hearing, and had their recommendations been given serious study, it is entirely possible that 55,000 or so of America's sons would not have been killed in a war that its major architect, Robert Strange McNamara, now considers to have been a tragic mistake.

President Bush's prosecution of the response to the attack of September 11, 2001 was to use Special Forces, CIA, and precision bombing to win the hearts and minds of the al Qaeda (see also Buried Briquets).

Henry Kissinger to the contrary notwithstanding, President Bush is not likely to go wobbly vis a vis China.

56 posted on 11/28/2002 5:17:19 PM PST by PhilDragoo
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To: Tailgunner Joe
He is a Communist spy.

I found this article about Kissinger on Drudge..

The Latest Kissinger Outrage - Why is a proven liar and wanted man in charge of the 9/11 investigation? By Christopher Hitchens

http://slate.msn.com/?id=2074678

58 posted on 11/28/2002 7:10:18 PM PST by Bella
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To: Torie
"Henry ... wanted us to lose"

BS. He played the hand he was given (eroding popular support, no way to win without going the Dresden route, economic strains, dope spreading throughout the ranks, tension among generations within the upper middle class) as Nixon told him to play it. There were few choices, and what choices there were all sucked.

The quote should have read "Henry's puppetmasters wanted us to lose"...Henry was told what to do...and blame current events

59 posted on 11/28/2002 7:26:48 PM PST by alphadog
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