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FREEREPUBLIC.com'S PRAGMATISM: A Recipe for Disappointment [The outsider view of FR?]
etherzone ^ | November 26, 2002 | Paul Fallavollita

Posted on 11/29/2002 2:28:45 AM PST by Blood of Patriots and Tyrants

Chronicles magazine's December 2002 issue features a piece by Sean Scallon in its Cultural Revolutions section discussing the evolution of Free Republic, billed as "the largest conservative-oriented website in the world." Scallon heralds the closure of cyberspace as a frontier of freedom, citing as his evidence the degeneration of Free Republic into a discussion forum beset by heavy-handed moderators who compulsively censor out any posted material deemed detrimental to the GOP Establishment's reign in conservative circles. Scallon notes that as Free Republic grew in popularity, size, and cost, "it was only natural for...site administrators to want to look good for prospective donors." The question naturally arises: why would conservatives regularly donate to a website with a Stalinesque reputation for sanitizing their members' commentary?...

Many readers of Scallon's piece will be surprised to learn that the operation of the Free Republic website requires an estimated $240,000 in donations annually from readers. The Freepers donate that kind of money because they really are convinced and excited (read: deluded) that they are "piece of the action." They really believe that their online (and off-line) advocacy and organizing efforts are effecting political change. They like the idea that they are "part of the system" and on the side of a winning majority now that the GOP has re-taken the Senate and Bush sits in the Oval Office. To swipe a phrase from Jesse Jackson, it "keeps hope alive." And hope is the archetypal political opiate, rendering populations docile and leaving them unwilling to decisively act to change their circumstances. The Freepers feel as though they're connected and influential, but they don't seem to realize that this is largely an illusion. The GOP's hierarchy already has its marching orders, independent of the input of the GOP grassroots. The GOP's top brass merely pretends that it cares about the "regular folk" at Free Republic. The GOP is always glad to take their money and their votes, though, and is equally happy to use Free Republic as a distribution node for official party "talking points."

Some alert Freepers, however, sense that the GOP they work so hard to support is not very responsive to the conservative agenda. Many Freepers are concerned about the immigration problem in this country, for example, yet the consensus of the average posters is that they have to "wait" and not push the GOP so hard on this issue because they feel constrained by what they call "practical politics." They worry that they will be cast as "too extreme" on certain issues, so they are content to water down their positions so that they can maintain a veneer of relevance and influence—influence that they never had to begin with in the places that matter.

Free Republic's existence is a symbol of the continuing captivity and betrayal of the conservative base of the GOP. The widespread appeasement and accommodation of the GOP's hierarchy by these "conservatives" guarantees there never will be any decisive pro-conservative change within the party, since the party is permanently assured that its conservative base, ever fearful of the bogeyman of a Gore-style presidency, will never abandon it. In a sense, the "mainstream" conservatives are as captive an electorate as the Blacks in the Democratic Party. Just as the Blacks are under-served and taken for granted by the Democrats, so too are the conservatives jilted by the Republicans. True conservatives are kept in the basement, and are not allowed to speak at GOP national conventions anymore. Yet, these sycophantic conservatives shuffle around the plantation of "Massa GOP" hoping a bone will occasionally be thrown their way, looking as broken and pathetic as Pavlov's famed dogs. Cries of "tax cuts" take the place of the ringing of bells for these piddling dogs. The Freepers believe they live in an era of conservative victory, but fail to grasp that the price of that victory was the gradual transmutation of conservatism itself into a variant of the same liberalism that movement had long been fighting. The day enough Freeper types realize this terrible situation, and stage a revolt against their masters, is the day conservatism has a chance again in America.

This tactic of "mainstream conservatism" supposedly "overcoming" its liberal enemy by adopting the ideological attributes of liberalism is not confined merely to internal matters of political strategy. The same attitude, essentially defeatist, emerges in the context of more important issues, including the future demographic composition of the nation itself. For example, one Freeper exclaimed that he had no problem with fifty percent of the population of the United States becoming Latino, if only the Latinos immigrated legally to the United States. In essence, that particular Freeper believes America should handle the current "immivasion" from Mexico by turning the United States into Mexico.

Sadly, that poster is not alone in his willingness to allow the GOP to import a new electorate for itself and new cheap laborers for its corporate constituency—hitting two Mexicans with one taco, so to speak. On the other hand, Free Republic's rabidly pro-Zionist administrators would not take kindly to a poster suggesting that they had no problem with Palestinians becoming fifty percent of the Israeli population (with citizen-status). Indeed, judging from one member's post, Freepers who plan to counter-demonstrate at future anti-war protests intend to wave Israeli flags rather than American. And I'd thought the Freepers were arguing that war against Iraq was in the name of America's interests. Such are the quirks of Free Republic, and the priorities of the "mainstream" conservatism it represents are radically askew.

Scallon is right. Free Republic is a large institution, and as with most organs of the Establishment, it is also ideologically bankrupt. In a sense, there is an element of fraud at work as well, since Free Republic's methodology and approach cannot possibly deliver what it promises: conservative political change. The frontier of freedom in cyberspace isn't yet totally closed, though—Scallon could have listed additional alternative forum websites where paleoconservatives and Constitutionalists can gather and discuss the issues, such as Ether Zone (obviously) and Original Dissent. The Freepers are oblivious to the fact that they are the tail, not the dog. Their Reaganite mantra of sunny optimism they always point toward, and always out of context, functions as an effective tool of political control.

"Published originally at http://www.EtherZone.com : republication allowed with this notice and hyperlink intact."


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When I ran across this article, there was one comment written, in response to it.

"Free Republic is not a Conservative site. It is an anti-American liberal site run by little Jews. In the U.S. there is what is called the 1st Amendment whereby one can criticize what one wants. Free Republic problem is that the Jews attempt to use the age old propaganda technique of taking that "criticizm" and whining to others that it's anti-Semitic. No one is fooled.

The best thing for those on the Internet is to avoid Free Republic and boycott the Jews. They deserve nothing better."


It's always those pesky Zionists. Retard.
1 posted on 11/29/2002 2:28:45 AM PST by Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
No, the article is correct. We've lost focus and screwed up. Maybe we could all hang out over at DU and learn how to do it right.

< /sarcasm >

prisoner6

2 posted on 11/29/2002 2:38:01 AM PST by prisoner6
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
All I can figure out from this article is that somebody is shitting bricks over the election.

Now I've heard Daschle and Gore's tirades against "Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and the Washington Times."

Does this mean FreeRepublic and all of us dupes here are being elevated into that lofty status worthy of national airtime attacks?

3 posted on 11/29/2002 2:39:19 AM PST by patriciaruth
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
Bottom line in fine print " ...originally at www.etherzone.com ..."speaks volumns. Personally, I've never been censored here and I've said more than one thing that I wished I had not.

All I can say for sure is that success draws critisizm. And this gentlemans' article is full of stereotypes.

4 posted on 11/29/2002 2:45:30 AM PST by exnavy
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
Many Freepers are concerned about the immigration problem in this country, for example, yet the consensus of the average posters is that they have to "wait" and not push the GOP so hard on this issue because they feel constrained by what they call "practical politics."

Can't argue with that. Hasn't Jim Robinson stated in the past that the problem of illegal immigration is just not one of his priorities?

5 posted on 11/29/2002 2:55:44 AM PST by Godebert
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
When an article starts off tagging FR as the "largest conservative-oriented website in the world" I would expect nothing less than one thousand words explaining why that’s a bad thing.
6 posted on 11/29/2002 2:58:39 AM PST by Eric Esot
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To: exnavy
And this gentlemans' article is full of stereotypes.

This gentleman is Paul Fallavollita. He goes by the name of "Paleocon Avatar" on certain forums that feature a high swastika content :).

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A national weekly publication serving the interests of higher education reported on its Web site Wednesday that a Purdue graduate student may be a "Neo-Nazi."

The Chronicle of Higher Education, which, according to its Web site, is read by more than 450,000 college and university administrators, reported that Paul Fallavollita, a graduate student in political science, has "written that Jews are inferior to the 'Aryan race' and that 'whites will win and recover a land and future for themselves.'"

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The professor said Fallavollita is not someone whose ideas differ simply because of religion, race or sexual preference, but that they advocate "pretty nasty things."

The Chronicle of Higher Education reported that a faculty member at Purdue found some of Fallavollita's writings on the Internet, including the essay "Why We Will Win," which won a writing contest sponsored by the National Alliance.

A separate piece, "A Report From the Academic Gulag," under Fallavollita's byline, was found on the Vanguard News Network Web site, www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com.

According to the site, those who support it have "come together on the Internet to reclaim the American mind from the Jews" and advocate white power.

The article posted with Fallavollita's name says, "My position on the issue is that my political beliefs are my business, and what I do on the Internet is my business as well."

It says the author treats people with respect and notes a distinction between academic and personal life.

"I do what I do because I feel a sense of responsibility to myself and the future, and I enjoy acting in accordance with that," said the article. "They are my beliefs and I would promote them all over again the same way, with no regrets."

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"He has First Amendment rights and rights of academic freedom," Bennett said. "Therefore, he can express any view that he chooses as long as he doesn't break the law."

Fallavollita graduated in 1999 from Loyola University in New Orleans with degrees in political science and philosophy. He got a master's degree in political science from Purdue last year and is now in the doctoral program.

 

 

 

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7 posted on 11/29/2002 3:11:18 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: Cachelot
Thanks for the extra (needed) info. That lends *ah-hem* the proper perspective with which to read this article.
8 posted on 11/29/2002 3:16:36 AM PST by Caipirabob
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
gotta love the little al qaeda-firsters
9 posted on 11/29/2002 3:24:28 AM PST by arielb
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
It would not have turned up under a search, since a different title is being used, but this article has been posted before

"Outsider view of FR" is correct. I don't know about Fallavollita, but I do know that two other Etherzone writers are banned former freepers.

10 posted on 11/29/2002 3:29:31 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
The GOP's top brass merely pretends that it cares about the "regular folk" at Free Republic. The GOP is always glad to take their money and their votes, though, and is equally happy to use Free Republic as a distribution node for official party "talking points."

Very true.

11 posted on 11/29/2002 3:43:37 AM PST by CWRWinger
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To: Cachelot
Whoa it looks like Paul Friedbrain is more insignificant than I thought. Thanks for the info!
12 posted on 11/29/2002 3:43:41 AM PST by exnavy
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
Viva Free Republic!
13 posted on 11/29/2002 3:54:32 AM PST by blam
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
The only thing wrong with Free Republic is that it's a
a place where those who struggle for conservatism come
together, and since the (supposed) departure of Bill
Clinton the struggle has become uncomfortably vague.
14 posted on 11/29/2002 4:17:51 AM PST by The Duke
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
Brings to mind a few quotes:
"The tree of liberty must be watered, from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man.......Mark Twain

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels. Lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, may posterity forget ye-Samuel Adams

The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) is the largest socialist organization in the United States, and the principal U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International - http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a393437456811.htm



15 posted on 11/29/2002 4:24:20 AM PST by hosepipe
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
Anyone spending any amount of time on FR, who concludes that it is "sanitized," needs an adjustment in his medication.
16 posted on 11/29/2002 4:44:05 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Godebert
So that means you are not permitted to post anti-immigration diatribes on FR?

Which version of FR are you using, again?

17 posted on 11/29/2002 4:45:24 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
Some alert Freepers, however, sense that the GOP they work so hard to support is not very responsive to the conservative agenda. Many Freepers are concerned about the immigration problem in this country, for example, yet the consensus of the average posters is that they have to "wait" and not push the GOP so hard on this issue because they feel constrained by what they call "practical politics." They worry that they will be cast as "too extreme" on certain issues, so they are content to water down their positions so that they can maintain a veneer of relevance and influence—influence that they never had to begin with in the places that matter.

Free Republic's existence is a symbol of the continuing captivity and betrayal of the conservative base of the GOP. The widespread appeasement and
accommodation of the GOP's hierarchy by these "conservatives" guarantees there never will be any decisive pro-conservative change within the party, since the party is permanently assured that its conservative base, ever fearful of the bogeyman of a Gore-style presidency, will never abandon it. In a sense, the "mainstream" conservatives are as captive an electorate as the Blacks in the Democratic Party. Just as the Blacks are under-served and taken for granted by the Democrats, so too are the conservatives jilted by the Republicans.

It would be easy to dismiss all of what this writer has to say, based on several glaring problems with his comments.

Number one, Free Republic is not a "defense of everything Jewish or Iraeli" web site.  If Israel does something wrong, it can be and is discussed on this forum.  When it reaches a point that Israel is blamed for the homicide attacks on it's people, yep the lunatic fringe are going to be chased off the site.  The Jew-Baiting aspects of the article are reason enough to dismiss it.  I'll grant you that.

Then there's the premise that the Republican party desminates it's party line through Free Republic.  To a certain extent it might, but that is not the management's fault.  Individual posters place their comments on the forum.  The forum management doesn't place Republican press releases there.  To the extent that other points of view are tolerated on the site, there are some pros and cons with regard to that.  I would say that the internet provides almost limitless voices and views to be heard.  If Free Republic doesn't wish to allow certain views to have voice on it's site, there are plenty of other sites around.

I have other problems with this article.  I'm not going to waste my time discussing them further.  I do believe the two excerpts I copied at the top of my comments are important.  Even an idiot like this writer can stumble across truth from time to time.  I am not going to state that he has hit the nail on the head in these two excerpts, but I believe he is close enough to the truth that reasoned people should at least contemplate what he has had to say in them.  I believe he has touched on some issues that we need to constantly re-evaluate for ourselves with regard to the Republican party.

Other than that, most of this writer's comments are soiled.

18 posted on 11/29/2002 4:46:34 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
Oh, there are plenty on FR that share this view.
19 posted on 11/29/2002 4:46:50 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: DoughtyOne
Number one, Free Republic is not a "defense of everything Jewish or Iraeli" web site. If Israel does something wrong, it can be and is discussed on this forum.

Agreed. Although there are plenty of Israel apologists here, who don't question anything Israel does, and seem to place Israel's interests above all else including those of the U.S., there are also a lot of people who give them grief over it.

I suspect that this guy isn't happy that the truly virulent anti-Semitic rhetoric is "sadly lacking" on FR.

20 posted on 11/29/2002 4:51:16 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
"The Freepers feel..."

Written like a true liberal. Uh, no, the folks at DU write about how they "feel", we at Free Republic are THINKERS. We think.

21 posted on 11/29/2002 4:51:26 AM PST by snippy_about_it
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To: Illbay
, and seem to place Israel's interests above all else including those of the U.S

You just lost all credibility with this bit of hyperbole.

22 posted on 11/29/2002 4:57:05 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: patriciaruth
Does this mean FreeRepublic and all of us dupes here are being elevated into that lofty status worthy of national airtime attacks?

One can only hope, lol.

23 posted on 11/29/2002 4:57:59 AM PST by RepubMommy
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To: Illbay
Agreed. Although there are plenty of Israel apologists here, who don't question anything Israel does, and seem to place Israel's interests above all else including those of the U.S., there are also a lot of people who give them grief over it.

And that's a fairly balanced approach in my view.  Israel shouldn't get a free pass.  It's actions should be judged fairly and taken in context.

I suspect that this guy isn't happy that the truly virulent anti-Semitic rhetoric is "sadly lacking" on FR.

Yes, I agree with you here.  I belive that's exactly what his problem is.

Let's also remember that this guy isn't exacly clear what takes place on this forum.  Why should he have the Israeli issue down pat?

He's has heard that folks get booted for criticizing Israel.  Yes that is true.  Others do disagree with Israel in a professional manner.  Most of us would assess that only the radicals were sent packing.  This guy assesses that all dissenters are sent packing.  That's not the case.

24 posted on 11/29/2002 5:04:40 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
The Freepers donate that kind of money because they really are convinced and excited (read: deluded) that they are "piece of the action." They really believe that their online (and off-line) advocacy and organizing efforts are effecting political change. They like the idea that they are "part of the system" and on the side of a winning majority now that the GOP has re-taken the Senate and Bush sits in the Oval Office.

I'm afraid this "alpha hotel" is partly right about our wishful thinking that we have a greater affect on the world than we actually do. I have said this before. We are, in many ways a "Tempest in a Teapot." Our struggles and arguments have little sway in the "Big Picture," and are primarily internal in nature, IMHO.

25 posted on 11/29/2002 5:06:09 AM PST by advocate10
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
Ah yes, the old blame the Jews argument. The funny thing is that it's hard to determine if that comment was written by a neo-Nazi, a Muslim, a Green, or just a run of the mill liberal...
26 posted on 11/29/2002 5:07:17 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants


Liberals: "Do it my way or else"

Why? Because the liberal way never works. Never has worked. Never will work.

But it is very appealing.

The Freepers expose the scam daily.
27 posted on 11/29/2002 5:09:43 AM PST by The Raven
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
FR is equal time.
28 posted on 11/29/2002 5:09:55 AM PST by ChadGore
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To: Illbay
I'm trying to remember where I've seen you before. Aren't you one of those Jew haters?
29 posted on 11/29/2002 5:11:04 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: AppyPappy
I don't live and breathe based upon your assessment of my credibility.

And if you don't think there is a sizeable contingent of those who'd send the U.S. to h*ll if it would benefit Israel, you haven't been reading.

30 posted on 11/29/2002 5:17:16 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
This bunghole sounds like Pat Buchanan...Everything is the fault of the Joooooooooos and only white-skinned people should be allowed to migrate here.
31 posted on 11/29/2002 5:18:09 AM PST by Johnny Shear
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To: DoughtyOne
He's has heard that folks get booted for criticizing Israel. Yes that is true.

I beg to differ.

I criticize Israel frequently, and have never been so much as suspended for doing so.

32 posted on 11/29/2002 5:18:35 AM PST by Illbay
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To: advocate10
...partly right about our wishful thinking that we have a greater affect on the world than we actually do.

I concur. IMO, I like the way Rush handles the notion that he himself is greatly responsible for the Republican resurgence: He simply dismisses it. He says "we do what we can, and if people are energized and influenced by that, then so be it."

There are many FReepers here with delusions of grandeur in this regard.

But it's somewhat understandable. After so long feeling helpless, it's nice to feel "empowered" even if it's not really warranted to the extent you'd like to think.

33 posted on 11/29/2002 5:21:10 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
Funny, Jim doesn’t look Jewish. Should I be getting the GOP talking points by Freepermail; or is there a certain thread that I should be reading?
34 posted on 11/29/2002 5:22:20 AM PST by MattMa
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To: CWRWinger
The GOP's top brass merely pretends that it cares about the "regular folk" at Free Republic. The GOP is always glad to take their money and their votes, though, and is equally happy to use Free Republic as a distribution node for official party "talking points."

Right on!

Since I got here I have been saying the same thing but have been concentrating on the subject of oil. Big business controls the GOP, but I don't think this is because the party lacks ideals. It is because big business controls politics.

We all know very well that John McCain would have trounced Gore handily(not winning by the skin of his teeth with 500,000 fewer votes like Bush). Heck, even Taxachusetts Demcorats were lining up to vote for him.

The business big-wigs who line the pockets of politicians on both sides of the aisle (but of late more the GOP) were scared to death of a having a guy in the White House who wanted to bring our demcracy back to its routes. I don't agree with everything McCain stands for, but anyone who believes that America should be about American citizens and not about American corporations should do whatever it takes to reduce the influence of money in Washington.

35 posted on 11/29/2002 5:33:44 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
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To: Illbay
After so long feeling helpless...

Wow, you're right about that! We send emails to legislators. Guess what. They (99%) do not read them! Ask one.

36 posted on 11/29/2002 5:55:49 AM PST by advocate10
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
You don't seriously think that those Mass liberals were going to vote for McCain in the genreal election do you? The whole Libs for McCain movement had two purposes... (1) to create a horserace for the media to follow, and (2) to create division in the GOP. If there had been a serious Democrat challenger to Gore, there is no way the dems would have crossed over in the primaries to vote for McCain.

GOPers can't win without conservatives, and McCain worked really hard to alienate all of them while pandering to the dems and the media. McCain was no better a candidate than Dole, because he had no core principals.
37 posted on 11/29/2002 5:58:44 AM PST by TN4Liberty
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
We are definitely coming to the same conclusion from two different vantage points. McCain is a nut case who should not be in public service.

He has sided with the demokrats and the anti-gun, anti-Second Amendment crowd.

McCain is not the GOP's alternative.

38 posted on 11/29/2002 5:58:57 AM PST by CWRWinger
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To: advocate10
There is great power in numbers, and Freepers have probably had more successes than we are aware of. Here are some ways that I think FR has made a difference:

1)Freeped polls (frustrate the liberal media who would love to be able to use internet polls to claim popular support)

2)Email campaigns (let politicians know we are paying attention)

3)News analysis that originates here and makes it's way to Fox News, unspins, and exposes the true intent of the liberals.

4)Financial success of FR will encourage other conservative media startups.

5)Education. (I love the outstanding news analysis here at FR.) Thanks to Freepers, I can read a political news article, and immediately find out about the author, his agenda, facts that the author left out or got wrong, the various propaganda techniques used by the author, his source of funding etc. etc. You can't buy this kind of analysis, and certainly can find it in the major media.

39 posted on 11/29/2002 5:59:25 AM PST by e_engineer
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To: snippy_about_it
Written like a true liberal. Uh, no, the folks at DU write about how they "feel", we at Free Republic are THINKERS. We think.

Nice catch. Freepers also question things. About the only thing there is 100% agreement on is that Hillary's pantsuits are ugly!

I do agree with the author, though, that conservatives are being patronized by Republican party leadership in some cases, and some of the causes that are very popular among the "little people" here...immigration and border restrictions, PBA, and less government spending, for example, are being ignored by those who depended on conservative votes to be elected into office.

40 posted on 11/29/2002 6:12:21 AM PST by grania
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
As neither a conservative nor a Republican but as someone who respects Free Republic and those who post here, I find Fallavollita's appraisal inaccurate and boring.

Propaganda is always boring.

41 posted on 11/29/2002 6:12:36 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: advocate10
We send emails to legislators. Guess what. They (99%) do not read them! Ask one.

You're right about that. I asked when I called my Senators' & Representative's offices. The answer: "A telephone call or regular letter has a better chance of getting action. We get so many emails...."

42 posted on 11/29/2002 6:14:28 AM PST by Amelia
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To: The Duke
Another rallying point will occur and FR will shine brightly at that time. However it isn't RINO'ism as many want it to be. Good to see you Duke.
43 posted on 11/29/2002 6:17:33 AM PST by Woodman
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To: hellinahandcart
hmm did th moderators stop changing thread titles back to the article's title?
44 posted on 11/29/2002 6:22:55 AM PST by KneelBeforeZod
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To: advocate10
That they have any sway at all is important. This country had gotten to point where the only influence seen was from Trade Unions and PAC's. It is a watershed event that any Party has begun to listen to the people again and if even in only a small part conservatives are heard from FR we have began to win.
45 posted on 11/29/2002 6:23:02 AM PST by Woodman
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To: e_engineer
5)Education. (I love the outstanding news analysis here at FR.) Thanks to Freepers, I can read a political news article, and immediately find out about the author, his agenda, facts that the author left out or got wrong, the various propaganda techniques used by the author, his source of funding etc. etc. You can't buy this kind of analysis, and certainly can find it in the major media.

Even non-conservatives can benefit from this joint effort of Freepers (and probably do).

46 posted on 11/29/2002 6:31:26 AM PST by syriacus
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
Where's the footnotes, Paul Fallavollita?

Coulter provides them in her criticism of leftist reportage. So do many other non-leftists.

General smears don't cut it anymore. We want hard facts.

47 posted on 11/29/2002 6:35:55 AM PST by syriacus
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To: Blood of Patriots and Tyrants
you don't get bashed until you're important
48 posted on 11/29/2002 6:38:18 AM PST by InvisibleChurch
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To: e_engineer
Just a little note about education that we gain here at Free Republic, I firmly believe that I am well on my way to becoming a truly "scary conservative" in the eyes of liberals. During my time here at Free Republic I have gone from constantly being frustrated to frustrating others. In addition to what you have said one thing that Free Republic does is it brings to light situations in other locales and other newspapers that we ordinarily would not read or wouldnot see because who has time to read every single newspaper or watch every newscast or listen to every newscast it is impossible. Maybe what this writer should have touched on is Rush Limbaugh's assertion that we are winning.
49 posted on 11/29/2002 6:48:42 AM PST by peter the great
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
We all know very well that John McCain would have trounced Gore handily
We don't all know this very well. As a matter of fact, I disagree with that assertion quite stridently. McCain would have lost fairly handily.
50 posted on 11/29/2002 6:52:51 AM PST by William McKinley
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