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Marijuana 'grow houses' booming (CANUCK STONER ALERT)
The Ottawa Citizen ^ | Wednesday, November 27, 2002 | Janice Tibbetts

Posted on 11/29/2002 11:03:18 AM PST by Sparta

Grow houses, such as this residence raided in January on Inuvik Crescent in Kanata, are often dangerous firetraps because the growers bypass hydro meters to obtain the massive amounts of electricity to power the heat lamps and other paraphernalia to surreptitiously grow the plants.

Homegrown marijuana has blossomed into a huge industry that collects billions of dollars annually, officials say.

Police say there are at least 50,000 houses in Canada that are now used exclusively to grow marijuana, ranging from new homes worth as much as $600,000 in downtown Vancouver to more modest residences sprinkled through the suburban streets of Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa.

The law enforcement, hydro and real estate industries -- conceding they are losing the battle against "this present and clear danger" -- came to Parliament Hill yesterday to call for an end to lax criminal sanctions against growers.

"This is a community safety issue," said David Griffin, executive director of the Canadian Police Association. "What this means to the public is theft of hydro, your insurance rates are affected and not the least of our concerns is the drug trafficking that is going on in our communities."

Police provided a detailed picture of the "grow houses," which they say are typically set up in suburban homes on the outskirts of Canada's largest cities.

What started as a West Coast phenomenon a decade ago spread across the Prairies to Central Canada about two years ago, and now the houses are starting to crop up in the Atlantic region.

"They are everywhere," said Staff Sgt. Marc Pinault of Ottawa, the RCMP's new national co-ordinator of marijuana grow operations.

The growers do not normally live on the premises, but some hire decoy families to either live in the homes or drop by often enough to keep police and neighbours at bay. The homes are often equipped with TVs and lights programmed to come on daily. The lawns are cut and snow is removed regularly.

But there are clues that something is amiss, police said. The windows and curtains are always closed. The smell can be pungent. Growers often smash large holes in the concrete foundation to route underground cables.

The hydro industry says consumers are paying the price because growers illegally tap into the power supply for the massive quantities of electricity they need to operate high-voltage lamps and maintain hothouse temperatures, draining the system of hundreds of millions of dollars annually.

Another main concern is that the operations release chemical toxins and fumes and the houses are a fire hazard, with their often-overloaded heating and wiring systems.

The insurance industry says the fire risk could lead to a general rate increase.

The grow operations now bring in billions of dollars in profit annually. Police say 95 per cent of them are run by criminal gangs, who smuggle their marijuana to the U.S. for sale.

In Ontario, it is estimated that residential growing operations are a $1-billion-a-year business. There are about 10,000 grow houses in the Toronto area alone, officials say.

British Columbia remains the country's marijuana-growing capital, where the annual business is estimated to reap up to $6 billion.

The business is not confined to rundown rental properties. Growers are increasingly buying homes, and in some cases entire blocks are devoted to the lucrative business.

Police say they are particularly worried about children who live in the homes, which they say are death traps. In a national sweep last week, in which $73 million worth of plants was seized, authorities also found 43 children aged four months to 17 years.

Officials complained yesterday that when growers are caught, it is common for judges to impose fines or conditional sentences served at home instead of jail terms.

Growers, who can easily each take in $1 million in profit annually, see the penalties simply as the cost of doing business.

"Right now criminals are thumbing their nose," Dan McTeague, a Liberal MP from the Toronto-area constituency of Pickering-Ajax-Uxbridge, said yesterday.

Solicitor General Wayne Easter conceded in the House of Commons that "we do need to do more" to fight the problem.


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To: Sparta
" ... electricity they need to operate high-voltage lamps .."

Wow. That sounds worse than "automatic assault rifles".

Okay 5 day waiting period before anyone can buy "high-voltage lamps". It's for the children.

41 posted on 11/29/2002 3:24:24 PM PST by dread78645
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To: Sparta
I got one down side for legalization for you. The price drops, large corporate farms start, the little guys can't compete and go out of buisness, and everyone starts hitting up the government for price supports.......Legalization could be a whole new employement scam for legions of government types.
42 posted on 11/29/2002 4:39:06 PM PST by Leisler
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To: Leisler
Good point. The socialists will find a way to milk marijuana legalization for their big government programs.
43 posted on 11/29/2002 4:45:20 PM PST by Sparta
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To: HELLRAISER II
Let me rephrase the statement "It won't provide any money for the WOD politicians."

But the biggest losers would growers themselves. If marijuana were legal - NAFTA and free trade will put them out of business. The stuff will be grown cheaper and better in warm Third World countries.

44 posted on 11/29/2002 5:48:38 PM PST by A. Pole
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To: Dane
The only difference is that both modern day Libertarians and Socilaists will look at a pollution power sucking pot farm and say "cool dude", while looking at a factory that produces wealth and products that benefit prople, the socialist will say "evil capitalist pig slave farm", while the Libertarian will say, "Oh come on that ain't so bad, but the pot farm is way cooler."

Hey, you're actually getting closer.
:-b

Would you mind documenting this "pollution" that pot farms allegedly produce though? What kind of "pollution"?

45 posted on 11/29/2002 8:18:35 PM PST by MadameAxe
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To: Master-Kon
We can fight drugs and usage from another angle rather than using government power.

There's one way to do that: eliminate all public sources of aid for substance abusers. Let the cost of abuse - including alcohol and tobacco - fall on the abuser, and any private source of charity he may talk into supporting him.

46 posted on 11/29/2002 9:50:11 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: HELLRAISER II
"They could then legally get their power turned on..."

Why would they do this? I guess because they'd be so happy that pot's legal, they'll agree to pay for something they've been getting for free?

I've seen you make better arguments.

47 posted on 11/30/2002 11:08:46 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Sparta
Master-Kon is one of those Libertarians that are in favor of drug legalization, but are against drug use. ThomasJefferson introduced me to that concept.

Quite frankly I don't understand it, but it seems to make perfect sense to them. I think it's along the lines of, "I don't agree with what you say, but I'll defend...."

48 posted on 11/30/2002 11:19:31 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Wolfie; jmc813
The whole "dangerous grow house" gambit is just the latest in a dying cause.
Exactly how I read it. Another "tired tactic" and now they've got
Growers are increasingly buying homes, and in some cases entire blocks are devoted to the lucrative business.
What are the real estate peole mad about? Sounds like they would welcome the sales.
And insurance rates "could" go up, not "will".
Trial balloon.

And a thought...
Police say there are at least 50,000 houses in Canada that are now used exclusively to grow marijuana...
Is this "guesstimation" or fact? If the police know the number of houses being used why are they still allowed to function? Shouldn't they be closing them down in the "war effort"?
It sounds as if they're saying "We know they're there, but we aren't going to do anything besides bitch about 'em".

49 posted on 12/01/2002 4:06:56 AM PST by philman_36
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To: robertpaulsen
Why would you put yourself at risk by stealing power when there is nothing to hide. If I were growing (which i'm not) I wouldn't have any reason to hide anything if it was legal, I definately wouldn't want to go to jail for stealing power if marajuana was legal. I just don't think that stealing power is the issue. The reason they steal power is not to save money but to keep from having astronomical power bills thereby giving away their growing operation.
50 posted on 12/02/2002 5:26:05 AM PST by HELLRAISER II
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To: A. Pole
Yes your absolutely right, the dealers & politicians do not want it legal and why should they. The buyers keep them both rich & they keep the legal system going by getting caught & filling prison cells. But for the average buyer it would eliminate the high cost & the chance of going to jail.
51 posted on 12/02/2002 5:29:31 AM PST by HELLRAISER II
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To: HELLRAISER II
You make a logical, sane argument. But the people in question aren't the most honest of citizens to begin with, are they? 'Criminals' is probably a good description.

Just my opinion, but I don't think think they'd come clean. It's still lots of $ for the operation they're running.

52 posted on 12/02/2002 6:54:03 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: HELLRAISER II
Illegal drugs and the battle against them has done more to fatten the budgets of police forces in canada and the US, than any single issue since...jaywalking, and loitering. Legalizing marijuana, would not significantly effect the system, other than relieve pressure on our jails, and to state that any move toward legality would suddenly produce a nation of potheads, is patent poo-poo. I would venture to guess, that the list of side effects for marijuana, would pale next to some of the more benign "legal drugs", that a nation of pill poppers loves to have at their disposal, but that is another story.

My desire is to see some change in the ridiculous status quo, ie, some form of limited and controlled legalization for marijuana where government could have another legal substance in the tax pool that they could become addicted to. Maybe for sure a sunset clause if the desired results were not forthcoming. Wanna bet the results would be better than legalized gambling? I can see it now, school boards nation wide crowing about the benefits to schools and public education provided by the "product".
53 posted on 12/02/2002 6:57:36 AM PST by wita
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To: wita
The way our legal system is running nowadays the Smokers are next in line to become criminals, I wonder what these people are going to do when they wake up one morning to find out Cigarettes & nicotine have been added to the list of illegal drugs. Do you think they're going to quit cold turkey or are they going to become criminals overnight. I think that most of us already know the answer.
54 posted on 12/02/2002 7:08:56 AM PST by HELLRAISER II
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To: anatolfz
"Have you seen "Trailer Park Boys"? Set somewhere near Dartmouth, Nova Scotia... "

This is too weird, second time in 2 days that I've heard this show mentioned, never heard of it before. Stranger still, upon looking into it a little, I discover that I went to high school with the creator of the show (Mike Clattenburg) and the characters basically come right out of the community I grew up in. Ummm, maybe I shouldn't mention that? Anyway, that's some right funny stuff there buddy.
55 posted on 12/02/2002 8:05:19 AM PST by -YYZ-
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To: HELLRAISER II
I'll wager that many tobacco users consider themselves at the very least, outcasts already.
56 posted on 12/02/2002 9:14:09 AM PST by wita
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To: wita
I would venture to guess, that the list of side effects for marijuana, would pale next to some of the more benign "legal drugs", that a nation of pill poppers loves to have at their disposal, but that is another story.

Ritalin (can be even mandatory), Prozac, Viagra? What else?

57 posted on 12/02/2002 9:47:32 AM PST by A. Pole
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To: philman_36
Growers are increasingly buying homes, and in some cases entire blocks are devoted to the lucrative business.

The only just laws that they are breaking are local zoning ordinances.

I find it just a bit interesting that pot is so lucerative under prohibition that folks are willing and ABLE to buy up whole blocks (contributing in huge ways to local economies) and no one seems to know who they are....

EBUCK

58 posted on 12/02/2002 10:31:08 AM PST by EBUCK
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To: Sparta
Libertarians are about to move north!!!
59 posted on 12/02/2002 10:38:53 AM PST by A CA Guy
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To: EBUCK
"The only just laws..."

Don't you mean the only 'EBUCK' laws? Those are the only ones you'll obey, so you might just as well call them that.

They're also bypassing the electric meter to power the grow lights. Do you think they're entitled to free electricity?

60 posted on 12/02/2002 11:22:07 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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