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PRESIDENT BUSH SURPRISES PRO-LIFE LEADERS BY SELECTING KISSINGER FOR 9-11 POST
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | November 29, 2002 | LifeSiteNews.com

Posted on 11/29/2002 6:39:31 PM PST by Polycarp

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To: nopardons
The Rush Limbaugh definition of a Feminazi is someone who is so extreme in their support for abortion that they become anti-choice. If you are supporting either coerced birth control or it's partner coerced abortion then you are an anti-choice pro-abortionist which would make you a femi-nazi. That is an extreme position and it is what Henry Kissinger is being accused of on this thread.
341 posted on 11/30/2002 1:36:11 AM PST by ganesha
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To: Polycarp
You use a whole LOT of things far too loosely , dear. That's why you keep getting laughed at, ridiculed, and refuted unmercilessly.
342 posted on 11/30/2002 1:37:23 AM PST by nopardons
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To: WarHawk42
Forget winning over any converts; they make people on their side, so angry, that they no longer even want to be associated with them. No, they have no idea how much harm they're doing to the anti-abortion cause. It's a shame .
343 posted on 11/30/2002 1:39:25 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
OBL did NOT train and send out his thugs, because the USA is making Muslim women take birth control pills.

Certainly not. But Birth control is not the sum total of demographic warfare either.

344 posted on 11/30/2002 1:42:01 AM PST by Polycarp
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To: nopardons
The way they alienate people you would think they are pro abortion.:)

WarHawk42

345 posted on 11/30/2002 1:42:25 AM PST by WarHawk42
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To: ganesha
Now, NOW , I'm a feminazi, because i don't think that there's anything wrong with the use of birth control ? What's next, I'm a Liberal, a Dem, a disruptor, not Conservative enough, not Christian enough ? With your kind of logic , Dashole was right, and Rush is behind him getting the anthrax packet. WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU ?

You haven't even an inkling, that Kissinger approved of forced abortions and / or forced birth control usage . You are attempting to tar me with a gigantic brush, and haven't the slightest idea about what any of my positions, on anything , are; except that I said that Kissinger is no Goebbles. LEARN HOW TO COMPREHEND THE WRITTEN ENGLISH WORD !

You may listen to Rush; however, you don't understand what he's saying. You have no reasoning / logic capabilities . When you don't know what you're talking about , don't post; you just look stupid by doing so. :-)

346 posted on 11/30/2002 1:47:23 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Polycarp
Oh great and enlightened " master ", why is it that you aren't running the world ? (/sarcasm )

Your CCPred garbage made a lot of claims, which you attempted to backup. The birth control issue, seemingly being THE reason why we were hit on 9/11 and for all of the rest of the problems, intendent upon Islamacist fanatics. Now, you're trying to run away from that. It won't wash.

347 posted on 11/30/2002 1:50:24 AM PST by nopardons
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To: WarHawk42
Exactly so !
348 posted on 11/30/2002 1:50:48 AM PST by nopardons
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To: breakem; Polycarp
If this is the only reason you can find not to appoint Kissinger to this issue, you wasted your time.

Oh? Kissinger seems to hold as much concern for the unborn as he did for the millions that suffered and died under a system he capitulated to, and deemed inevitable...Communism.

And I understand Polycarp's reasoning here. After all, any investigation into 9/11 would require one to have an appreciation of life, unless you're a heartless bastard. ;^)

349 posted on 11/30/2002 2:01:02 AM PST by jla
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To: PhiKapMom; gcruse
The pro-lifers need to get a life.

You took the words right out of my mouth!

I'm curious if either of you would've said that to the author of the Conscience of the Nation?

350 posted on 11/30/2002 2:05:56 AM PST by jla
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To: Polycarp

I reckon these folks were told, and shouted at, to "get a life".
They ignored the savants, on both sides, and did their best to save lives.

Polycarp...You will have done a great injustice to the human beings that have, and will, be killed via abortion if you ever become intimidated enough to stop speaking on the Right To Life.

I'm especially sorry that some of this comes from those in the Grand Ol' Party.

351 posted on 11/30/2002 2:21:38 AM PST by jla
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To: nopardons
I don't care if you are a Christian or a conservative but I have a problem with the government prohibiting people from having children or telling foreign governments how many kids they should tell their people to have. This was posted above:

While the population-control terminology used in press releases, official addresses, and in initial aid contacts with various needy nations may be encouraging and supportive, back-up measures ensuring compliance are also practised.

In a September 1998 World Bank report evaluating its "Costs, Payments, and Incentives in Family-Planning Programs," the Bank wrote about the use of "incentives" and "disincentives" on fertility choices. The report said of "incentives" that, "First, payments are made to: (a) acceptors, (b) providers, and (c) recruiters, all focused on the act of accepting a method (usually sterilization). These payments may be in cash or in kind and are usually given immediately upon acceptance."

'Disincentives'

"Disincentives" are described in the report as, "Oriented directly to fewer births, as distinct from inducements to practise contraception. Some involve benefits (or penalties) ... salary level, tax exemptions, maternity leaves, eligibility for preferred housing, schools, and so forth."

As instructed by NSSM 200, international banks have tied financial aid to the the practice of population control. A clear example comes from a 1992 evaluation paper by the World Bank discussing "Population and the World Bank" in Senegal. The report described a rural health project in the country which focused on the provision of buildings and equipment for expansion of basic health services.

The study noted that the agreement to provide the buildings and equipment was contingent on family planning. The study added that the "failure to implement this element" resulted in a stagnation of the project. The report went on to say that in 1985-1986, the Bank concentrated on helping the government develop a comprehensive population policy. As a direct result of the acceptance of the population policy (a "condition of release") the Bank released the money (called a structural-adjustment loan) needed to complete the project. "This recommendation was accepted and eventually implemented by making the development of such a policy statement a condition for release of the second tranche of the third structural-adjustment loan."

Taking into consideration that the origin of the population-control agenda stems from some of the highest echelons of U.S. political power (as evident from Kissinger's NSSM 200), it is not surprising that President Clinton refuses to fund the IMF and UN unless the monies are used to promote abortion, an essential element in population control

352 posted on 11/30/2002 2:26:38 AM PST by ganesha
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To: Polycarp
SIngle-issue "Conservatives"...The RATS' Best Friend.
353 posted on 11/30/2002 2:29:11 AM PST by Redleg Duke
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To: nopardons
Post 203 also deals with the issue of coercion. Are you strictly pro-choice or do you believe the government has the right to tell people that they must have fewer children?
354 posted on 11/30/2002 2:36:01 AM PST by ganesha
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To: All
For some of you in the Grand Ol' Party, it has become a matter of convenience to accept homosexuality & abortion as an inevitable step our civilization was bound to incur.
I respectfully, and vehemently, disagree.

If your aim is to just win political races, and have braggin' rights at the local town social, or hopefully be invited to a black-tie function of an important political figure...then maybe folks like me aren't doing enough and all that we should to bring about the kind of the G.O.P. that that President Reagan envisioned, and continues to be endeavored by the one's who brought us to the dance...Mr. Falwell, Mrs. Schlafly, Mr. Buckley, et al.

355 posted on 11/30/2002 2:40:52 AM PST by jla
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To: WarHawk42
No I don't make a fool out of myself in public places.:)

Then why are you doing it here?

Jeff Anderson
Midlothian, VA
Reagan-Conservative
Pro-Lifer

356 posted on 11/30/2002 2:45:22 AM PST by jla
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To: Polycarp
Hold firm to your beliefs.
These folks are just makin' you out to be another amiable dunce.
357 posted on 11/30/2002 2:51:16 AM PST by jla
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To: Polycarp
I am Broken Glass Republican...Pro-Life, Pro-Choice, I don't care...I vote REPUBLICAN!!! Whoever wins the primary gets my support.

BUT!!!

Single issue freaks like you make me question the Pro-Life stance. I've never seen a Pro-Choice Republican attempting to slant anything and everything towards their ideology like some of you freaks do. And I'm getting tired of supporting your candidates, without fail, when you NEVER support mine (ANY Republican is better than ANY DemocRAT). I might just decide to return the favor one day.
358 posted on 11/30/2002 3:48:44 AM PST by Johnny Shear
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To: Polycarp; PhiKapMom; Bella_Bru; Admin Moderator
Dr. Kopp, I presume?
359 posted on 11/30/2002 6:04:25 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: sinkspur; Polycarp; don-o
<> I am another one. KIssinger is indefensible on many levels. Prolife is one of those levels. Were he one identified as a homophobe, would he have been chosen by Bush? Nope.

Look, there are MANY Republicans he could have chosen to sweep this mess under the rug- Danforth, for one, comes to mind. Why Kissinger when he is infamous as a proabort?

Why are those who oppose killing defensless unborn the ones supposed to "get a life?"

360 posted on 11/30/2002 6:31:42 AM PST by Catholicguy
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