Conservatives Dispute Bush Portrayal of Islam as Peaceful

washington post ^ | 11/30/02

[knak]

President Bush finds himself in a rare disagreement with conservatives in his party over his efforts to portray Islam as a peaceful religion that is not responsible for anti-American terrorism.

In a score of speeches since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the president has called for tolerance of Muslims, describing Islam as "a faith based upon peace and love and compassion" and a religion committed to "morality and learning and tolerance."

[Luis Gonzalez]

Or when they do things like marry multiple women , or let their kids die because they don't believe in secular medicine, or expect people to handle poisonous snakes.

Long as we have a reason.

BTW, "murdering innocent people and celebrating"...can we go after the Irish? After all, there is that whole Catholic/Protestant thing.

[SCalGal]

That is also why I'm for brutally and quickly winning this war, so we can reclaim as much as our freedom as possible.

Far too much of this war has already been fought on our soil. It need to be over quickly.

[Axenolith]

Hardly a wholely Muslim country...

Muslim 45%-50%, Ethiopian Orthodox 35%-40%, animist 12%, other 3%-8% (from the same source)

Also, the democracy has only been around since '94...

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Not one MUSLIM GROUP HAS SPOKEN UP AGAINST THIS HATE, OR DENOUNCED THE KORAN FOR ITS HATE PASSAGES. JERRY FALWELL IS RIGHT."

"Over the past year, numerous criticisms have been made that Muslim leaders and organizations have not been outspoken enough in denouncing the violence and horror of September 11, 2001. Muslims are constantly perplexed by this accusation, as we have heard nothing but unequivocal and unified condemnations by the leaders of our community, both in the United States and worldwide. But for some reason, people are not listening."

"For the record, the inhuman attacks of September 11 have been condemned in the strongest terms by virtually all Islamic leaders, organizations, and countries. The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia summarized, "...hijacking planes, terrorizing innocent people and shedding blood, constitute a form of injustice that cannot be tolerated by Islam, which views them as gross crimes and sinful acts."

Source.

[Jhoffa_]

You can hate Christians all day long, but you certainly would not be in fear for your life from them.

I know all about it. I am a Christian.

And they probably don't care that you are trying to compare them to terrorist, it's been done before.

You know, by your standards that's lying. I will give you the benefit of the doubt however and assume you are merely under the wrong impression however.

It is however a sad commentary on your motives for this whole thread.

What's wrong with my motivations? Listen pal, God didn't swing down from on high and tell me it was okay to beat up my building's maintenance man because the WTC was attacked.

Is this what he revealed to you?

It's nice to see that you talked long enough to expose your real agenda. Keep talking.

That's right. My agenda includes universal condemnation for Jihadders.

You got it.

You also said:

There are many people here either outright calling for or implying the need for a war on Islam as a whole. They are no better than the problem they are addressing, imo.

Indeed I did.

Once again, you should retract.

Once again, I refuse.

People here at Freerepublic are not murdering terrorist. No matter what you say, you will never be able to make that connection. It is a disgrace for you to even try.

Now that's a lie. Outright, baldfaced lie. I never indicted FR in any way, shape or form.

If anyone should be posting retractions around here it's you Jael.

(But, honestly.. I don't care enough about your opinion to call for one.)

[Luis Gonzalez]

It's the world's oldest Muslim nation, look it up. Nor did I ever say that it was 100% Muslim. The first Ethiopian ruler to convert to Islam was around 1290.

[Jael]

"There are ***many people here*** either outright calling for or implying the need for a war on Islam as a whole. They are no better than the problem they are addressing, imo."

Your quote. You deal with it.

[Jhoffa_]

Your quote. You deal with it.

I thought I just did?

[Axenolith]

Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia
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My main issue was its association with freedom, which, on the whole I guess we'll have to take a wait and see attitude on as its kinda new [democracy wise] and there's not quite enough Muslims there to comfortably go on a big persecution spree.

[Delphinium]

The Word of God is always right.

[Delphinium]

I don't see any special tratment of Muslims. Please expound.

Teaching Islam in public schools is one example:
http://www.aclj.org/news/studentrights/020111_islam_in_schools.asp

There are several more, you must not watch the news?

[Itzlzha]

...But you know it's not by killing Lamonte. He's not the problem and, thus he's not the solution.. Actually if you want to be honest about it, he's the only silver lining here.

Hey...you like "Lamonte"...great. You want to find out if he's a Jihadi-in-Waiting...try this...

Tell him that you are sending money and giving time to a group of Missionaries that are going to build a HUGE Christian Cathedral to Jesus in Mecca. And, your Jewish friends are doing the same in a Synagogue for Medina.

See if "Lamonte" doesn't scream Allahu Akhbar!

Me...I'm not waiting around to see if "Lamonte" straps on a bomb...or better yet his kids do.

If "Lamonte" is such a nice guy...what did he do for the 9-11 VICTIMS (Not the terrorists)? Has he joined his fellow citizens in peaceful protest of what Islamazis are doing in his religions name?

I doubt it. Sorry to break it to you, but either he's a card carrying Islamazi, or he's an enabler.

BTW, MacVeigh didn't shout "God is Great"...nor did he do it in the Name of religion. Nice Red Herring there...but what should we expect from folks like you and LouisGonzales...

[txoilman]

If Bush had said that Islam is not a religion of peace can you imagine the problems that would have caused. As a Christian I realize that the battle is not against flesh or blood or other religions, but against the powers and principalities of darkness. The battle is against satan and his agents of terrorism those radicals of the Islamic faith.

[Jhoffa_]

Me...I'm not waiting around to see if "Lamonte" straps on a bomb...or better yet his kids do.

A comment like this is a great example of why Lamonte, others like him and their religion are protected by the U.S. Constitution.

[Morrigan]

Thank you for your nice words:) I've noticed that still no one else has brought that up......

[2nd Amendment]

thoughtful response. I contend that all fanaticism that results in violence is evil.. It is just as evil for Catholic Christians to be killing Protestant Christians in Northern Ireland as it is for jihadists to be killing innocents around the world!

[Jhoffa_]

It is just as evil for Catholic Christians to be killing Protestant Christians in Northern Ireland as it is for jihadists to be killing innocents around the world!

I would agree with that..