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Is Islam a religion of peace?
Townhall.com ^ | 12/02/02 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 12/01/2002 9:46:28 PM PST by kattracks

"I think Muhammad was a terrorist ... a violent man, a man of war," said the Rev. Jerry Falwell on "60 Minutes." He added, "Jesus set the example for love. ... Muhammad set an opposite example." Murderous riots broke out in India, and an Iranian cleric threatened Falwell with assassination. "The Koran teaches that the end of the world will not come until every Jew is killed by Muslims," says the Rev. Pat Robertson. He compares the Koran's message on Jews to "Mein Kampf." "There is no doubt the religion of Muhammad ... is extreme and violent."

"I don't believe this is a wonderful, peaceful religion," adds Franklin Graham, son of Billy Graham, "When you read ... the verses from the Koran, it instructs the killing of the infidel ... those that are non-Muslim."

What does President Bush think of this bashing of Islam by his Christian friends? He rejects it. "Islam is a religion of peace."

Colin Powell is less charitable: "We will reject the kind of comments ... where people in this country say that Muslims are responsible for the killing of all Jews, and who put out hatred. This kind of hatred must be rejected."

Is Islam a religion of peace? Why, then, was an American Christian woman murdered in south Lebanon by an Islamic fanatic, after Christians were warned to stop proselytizing for the faith?

If Islam is a religion of peace, how do you explain four days of Muslim rioting in Kaduna, Nigeria, against a Miss World pageant, after a journalist wrote that Muhammad might have chosen one of the beauty queens as one of his wives? Those riots left 1,500 hospitalized and 215 dead.

Islam has "bloody borders," says Harvard Professor Samuel Huntington. Is he not right? From Algeria to Afghanistan to the Philippines, Muslim insurgencies rage in a dozen countries.

Yet the president, too, has a point. In America, a huge Islamic community lives at peace with its Christian and Jewish neighbors. Around the world are a billion Muslims, only a tiny fraction of whom are waging jihad against Christian minorities or their own rulers.

How to explain the dichotomy? We are at the beginning of a religious and political revolution in the Islamic world. Like all revolutions, it is marked at its extremes by militancy, intolerance and a sometimes murderous xenophobia. What is being worked out, often violently, are the terms of Islam's engagement with a hedonistic, triumphalist West that both attracts and repels the Muslim faithful.

In northern Nigeria, this revolution is religious and cultural -- at war with both Christianity and a neo-pagan MTV culture. In Algeria, Islamic jihadists seek to overthrow a secular-socialist state brought to power by the war of independence. In southern Lebanon, militants want Christians out, now that Hezbollah has driven the Israelis out. In Palestine, Hamas and Islamic Jihad add religious fanaticism to a nationalist cause. Should Arafat become president of Palestine, he will face an Islamic party more rabid than the religious parties Sharon must cope with.

In Chechnya and western China, Islamic guerrillas seem more secessionist than fundamentalist. In Egypt, Islamic extremism is manifest in assassination attempts of pro-Western scholars, the slaughter of tourists and the persecution of the Copts.

Yet, while all this violence is the daily fare of our front pages, how many Islamic terrorists, guerrillas, assassins and rioters are there, when you consider that if they add up to 1,000,000, it would be less than 0.1 percent of the Muslims on earth? And not all the causes for which Muslims fight -- independence for Chechnya and Palestine, secession from Russia, Indonesia and China -- are inherently unjust or evil.

Islam is in a revivalist phase. In the lands where it is predominant, there is often little tolerance of rival religions seeking the conversion of Muslims. So it is that Falwell, Robertson and Graham, too, have a point. Between militant Islam and Christian fundamentalism, there is an unbridgeable chasm of belief, and in the Islamic world, devout Christians are citizens under suspicion -- just as Jews and Muslims were in Isabella's Spain and Catholics were in Elizabethan England.

Yet, in his sense that we must avoid war with militant Islam, lest we find ourselves at war with all Islam, President Bush is surely right.

In the last century, America was threatened by a global communist revolution. Avoiding all-out war, we outlasted it. And we can outlast this Islamist revolution. What we must avoid is a war of faiths, a war of civilizations between Islam and America. And those who propagandize for such a war are the unwitting or willful collaborators of Osama bin Laden.

©2002 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

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1 posted on 12/01/2002 9:46:28 PM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Islam is a satanic cult dedicated to torture, rape and murder and it goal is to rule the world. 'Nuff said.
2 posted on 12/01/2002 9:52:10 PM PST by ex-Texan
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To: kattracks
"Is Islam a religion of peace?"

No.

3 posted on 12/01/2002 9:56:09 PM PST by bootless
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To: kattracks
To portray Islam as anything more than murderous madness is to perpetuate a myth that allows it to continue it's murderous madness.
4 posted on 12/01/2002 9:56:44 PM PST by RLK
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To: bootless
C'mon, where is all the respect the sand people and their moon-god deserves?
This is a religion of...excuse me I need to go piss!
5 posted on 12/01/2002 9:58:19 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: kattracks
I'm right wing, but not part of the "religious right". But I stand 100% behind the comments of Robertson, Falwell, and F. Graham. Islam is not about peace! Islam is about intolerance, murder, revolution, and conversion with the threat of death if refused. Contrary to what Buchanan said, I'm all for a holy war! Re-start the Crusades, let's sack every Muslim in Mecca and Palestine, and retake the oil fields in Arabia that America discovered and developed! America and Israel first!
6 posted on 12/01/2002 9:58:33 PM PST by ctnoell
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To: ctnoell
I think both Dems and Republicans realize this. The only reason Bush doesn't go at it like that is that he would have to go after twenty places at once. He rather go at one or two at a time and let a few get overturned from inside as a bonus. IMO
7 posted on 12/01/2002 10:00:51 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: RLK
Sooner or later the fountainhead of the insane murder cult is going to get an atomic root canal.
8 posted on 12/01/2002 10:06:07 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: kattracks
Here's how much of the world is enslaved by islamism.

if the image is missing squeeze your mouse here: http://www.wadsworth.com/religion_d/special_features/maps/matthews_world/content/map_01.html

9 posted on 12/01/2002 10:08:08 PM PST by gorebegone
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To: gorebegone

here's another map showing the spread of religion of peace so far.

or try here: http://www.wamware.com/world-religions/map.htm

10 posted on 12/01/2002 10:10:32 PM PST by gorebegone
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To: gorebegone
Maybe you should be assigned to the FReeper HTML boot camp.
11 posted on 12/01/2002 10:11:43 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Travis McGee
Sooner or later the fountainhead of the insane murder cult is going to get an atomic root canal.

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If it takes that or something similar, so be it.

12 posted on 12/01/2002 10:12:09 PM PST by RLK
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To: Cultural Jihad
Been there done that. I think the size of the file may be too large. Here's another one I found at;

http://highered.mcgraw-hill.com/olc/dl/35299/map11.pdf


13 posted on 12/01/2002 10:14:02 PM PST by gorebegone
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To: gorebegone
Man that is weird, every time I try to post an image of the spread of the religion of peace, it fails! Don't know why? Let's try this map:


14 posted on 12/01/2002 10:17:24 PM PST by gorebegone
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To: kattracks
In the last century, America was threatened by a global communist revolution. Avoiding all-out war, we outlasted it.

The USSR is still pretty much intact. A guy who headed up the KGB is its President.

India continues with its socialistic ways; South America keeps electing commies too.

And here in the USA we have income taxes, gun registration, loss of the 4th amendment and property rights infringements out the wazoo.

So, I think Pat Buchanan is whistling past the graveyard on this one.

15 posted on 12/01/2002 10:17:46 PM PST by ikka
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To: gorebegone

Well, not at all. You are using the wrong HTML tag. You are trying to link to a webpage using the "Image Source" tag, which is used for images and not webpages.

Here's a hint: For any image you see on the internet, which often ends in .gif or .jpg, then you can use the <IMG SRC=" tag. For webpages which often end in .htm or .html, then you should use the <a href=" tag.

16 posted on 12/01/2002 10:18:37 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Yep I was right, any map that shows the spread of islamism is not re-postable on the Free Republic. Does any body know why this info is being surpressed?


17 posted on 12/01/2002 10:20:21 PM PST by gorebegone
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To: A CA Guy
The only reason Bush doesn't go at it like that is that he would have to go after twenty places at once.

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It amazes me how much people determined to worship Bush seem to have knowledge of all that goes on inside his mind in such a way as to continue that worship and ridicule anyone who doesn't share it. For my part, I have yet to be convinced Bush has a mind.

As far as going 20 places at once, there are dozens of places in the world who are experiencing terrorism by Islam. With a little more moral support instead of claiming Islam is the religion of peace, they'd be glad to repel Islam.

18 posted on 12/01/2002 10:20:23 PM PST by RLK
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To: ex-Texan
What did we (in America) learn from September 11, 2001 and the deaths of 3,000 of our fellow citizens. I am tempted to admit: Absolutely nothing.

Among the many unlearned lessons of Day-Which-Will-Live-In-Infamy-II-- the necessity to control our borders, the need for a patriotic renewal and the importance of combating multiculturalism -- the most significant is the nature of Islam. You will note that I do not say militant Islam, or radical Islam, or Islamic extremism or other such weasel words – but Islam, period.

Every one of the hijackers who flew airliners into the World Trade Center and Pentagon were professing and practicing Moslems, as is Osama bin Laden. The Al Qaeda terrorist network, is based in Moslem countries and supported financially by the so called pious Moslem leadership of Saudi Arabia.

The overwhelming majority of Moslem religious authorities who have spoken out on the subject, including those at the main mosque in Mecca and Egypt’s prestigious Al Azar University, either endorse or rationalize acts of terrorism. On a day when Americans were incinerated or buried under tons of rubble, Muslims from Nigeria to Indonesia, celebrated in the streets.

Sept. 11 was one chapter in a 1400-year jihad. Every day, the World Trade Center massacre is reenacted on a smaller scale somewhere in the world. Jewish women and children are burned alive in a bus in Israel. A missionary is beheaded in the Philippines, gunmen shoot up a church in Pakistan (deliberately firing into the prostrate bodies of women trying to shield their children). Ancient monasteries and convents are destroyed in Kosovo. Women are sentenced to death for adultery in Nigeria, Hindus are murdered in the Kashmir. In Denmark, the Muslim community there has put a $30,000 bounty on the heads of Jews and those who support Israel. Nuns are beheaded in Baghdad, Christians in Sudan are forced into slavery, and in Britain, Islam openly states it is going to take over not only the UK, but the whole world -- and the beat goes on.
Genocide in the Sudan, ethnic cleansing in the Balkans, religious persecution in Saudi Arabia, calls for another holocaust in mosques from Mecca to Gaza, the imposition of Islamic law in Nigeria, forced conversions in Indonesia, synagogues burned in France, Jews attacked across Europe – these are everyday events, as Third World and much of the First slowly turns Islamic green.

Sadly our leaders, from President Bush on down, insist on peddling the absurdity that Islam is a religion of peace – a creed of kindness and benevolence tragically and inexplicably corrupted by fanatics.

Why is the leadership of the West reluctant to confront manifest reality? The reason lies partly with our absurd foreign policy. We have declared certain Moslem nations to be our loyal allies – including Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan. We would not want to offend these dear friends by saying something unflattering about their bloody, butcherly, dark ages faith.

Americans are naturally benevolent. Most of us are taught from childhood that is religion is good (and it does not matter which religion). As long as little Johnny believes in God and goodness, it’s inconsequential whether he lights candles, wears a skull cap to services or prays in the direction of Mecca.

This works with every religion except Islam.
Consider the following: Of the three major western religions: one was started by a lawgiver who helped to free slaves; one by a man of peace; the last one by a man who loved war and having sex with children. Mohammed not only led men into battle, he enjoyed marrying girls as young as six years old (it is in the Koran). The essence of his message is sick and disgusting. A holy war where you slaughter your enemies, while at the same time encouraging followers to have sex with the children they capture (as he did) for the glory of Allah. He even advised his followers to negotiate false peace treaties in order to lull their enemies.

For almost 1,400 years, that has been the reality of Islam. Within a century after the death of Mohammed, Islam spread throughout the Middle East and across North Africa. It overran the Iberian peninsula and was finally stopped in southern France. It spread eastward as far as the southern Philippines. It was not propagated by fresh-faced young men knocking on doors and announcing: “Hello. I’m from your local mosque. Have you considered the Koran?” It was and is spread by force – conversion by the sword or death. This is still in practice today.

Some will respond that all religions go through periods of violence, usually in their infancy. Christianity had its crusades and Inquisition, its forced conversions and expulsions. The evil committed in the name of Christ happened centuries ago. The evil committed in the name of the Prophet is going on now, as you read these words. Of 22 conflicts in the Third World, 20 involve Moslems versus someone else. Coincidence? In his brilliant book, “Clash of Cultures and the Remaking of World Order,” Samuel Huntington speaks of Islam’s “bloody borders.”

There is no Methodist Jihad, no Jewish Hasidic holy warriors, no Buddhist monk wanting to have 72 virgins waiting for him after a suicide bombing, no Hindu Holy men plotting to blow up people, no Southern Baptist suicide bombers, no Mormon elders preaching the annihilation of members of other faiths.

Islam is a warrior religion – the perfect vessel for fanatics, the violence-prone, the envious and haters of all stripes. This is one reason why Islam is making so many converts among the peaceable denizens of our prison system.

Still, much of the West is addicted to a fairy-tale version of Islam. Christian and Jewish clergy fall all over themselves to have interfaith services with imams. Representatives of Moslem groups are invited to the White House. The president signs a Ramadan declaration. In California, public schools ask children to role-play at being Moslems. Our universities take carefully selected verses from the Koran and present them as the essence of the faith. All that’s needed is a Moslem character on “Sesame Street.” Look – it’s the Jihad Monster!

This perspective engenders a fatally false sense of security. Imagine, in 1940, Winston Churchill taking to the airwaves to announce “Nazism is an ideology of peace which, regrettably, has been perverted by a few fanatics like Hitler and Goebbels. But most storm troopers and SS men are fine follows – your friends and neighbors.”

For the first thousand years of its history – from the death of Mohammad to the 17th. century decline of the Ottoman empire, Islam was an expansionist force. For the next 300 years, as the West rose to preeminence, Islam receded. For the past four decades – fueled by Arab oil wealth, a surplus population in the Middle East, the waning of the West and the rise of more virulent strains of the faith (Shiism, Wahhabism, Sunni fundamentalism) – Islam is expanding once more.

Due to Moslem immigration and aggressive proselytizing, Islam is being exported to the West. Moslem populations are burgeoning throughout Western Europe. (In southern France, there are more mosques than churches.) In Judeo-Christian America, Islam is the fastest growing religion. It is also spreading down the coast of West Africa, through the Balkans (after Serbia, Macedonia is the next target) and up from Mindanao in the Philippines.

Wherever it comes, Islam brings its delightful customs – child marriages, female circumcisions, rabid hatred toward Christians, Hindus, Jews, Buddhists and every other non-muslim, terrorism and support for terrorism and a virulent intolerance of other faiths.

Am I suggesting we declare war on over 1 billion million Moslems? The question is moot – Islam has declared war on the rest of the human race. When one side knows it’s at war and the other thinks peace and brotherhood prevail, guess who wins?

Ultimately, it is not about Jews in Israel, or Orthodox Serbs in Kosovo, or Hindus in Kashmir, Buddhists in Thailand, or Maronite Catholics in Lebanon, Taoists in China, or Christians in Sudan and Nigeria, but all of us. As Ben Franklin would have it – Either we will hang together, or surely we shall all hang separately.

19 posted on 12/01/2002 10:21:18 PM PST by GaryMontana
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To: gorebegone; Admin Moderator
Yep I was right, any map that shows the spread of islamism is not re-postable on the Free Republic. Does any body know why this info is being surpressed?

The only person who is 'suppressing' information is you, since you do not know how to use HTML tags. Admin: Is there any chance of getting back the once-popular HTML bootcamp? Apparently there are a few who could use a refresher course, lest they claim that there is 'censorship' at FR! LOL!

20 posted on 12/01/2002 10:24:27 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: kattracks
And not all the causes for which Muslims fight -- independence for ... Palestine, -- are inherently unjust or evil.

spoken like Yasser Arafat or Colin Powell ... a deliberate lie ... the evidence is overwhelming to the contrary given the deaths and maiming in the 2+ year old Intifada ...
21 posted on 12/01/2002 10:25:01 PM PST by Bobby777
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To: Cultural Jihad
Thanks for the info, and I thought it was Al Qaeda screwing with the web! Here's the spread of islam:


22 posted on 12/01/2002 10:28:04 PM PST by gorebegone
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To: RLK
Use some common sense, whether this be Bush, Reagan or Nixon, no President wants to fight a war on 20 fronts.
I don't consider Bush stupid and I do think they realize as we do that there is a bigger problems in more places than we are officially advised of.
23 posted on 12/01/2002 10:28:04 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: Texasforever; Howlin; anniegetyourgun; gorebegone
Oh, heavens! More proof of censorship at FreeRepublic! ;)
24 posted on 12/01/2002 10:28:47 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Thanks for the info, and I thought it was Al Qaeda screwing with the web! Here's the spread of islam:


25 posted on 12/01/2002 10:29:12 PM PST by gorebegone
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To: gorebegone


26 posted on 12/01/2002 10:30:17 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: gorebegone
Here's the spread of Brown & Root Construction Company:


27 posted on 12/01/2002 10:32:02 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: kattracks
"We will reject the kind of comments ... where people in this country say that Muslims are responsible for the killing of all Jews" - Colin Powell

Fancy semantics there, Colin. Of course Muslims aren't responsible for the murder of ALL Jews. ....Just the ones that have been murdered.

Or perhaps the good General meant that Jews are sometimes murdered by people other than Muslims. Undoubtedly true, but I'd imagine those statistics to be somewhere in the vicinity of 99.999% Muslims, .001% non-Muslims.

28 posted on 12/01/2002 10:32:07 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Cultural Jihad
Hey CJ That didn't work twice. I typed in

with no joy!

29 posted on 12/01/2002 10:32:12 PM PST by gorebegone
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To: gorebegone
Alright! You created your first hyperlink!
30 posted on 12/01/2002 10:35:27 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Hey CJ click here to see the #@!&%* map

Spread of religion of peace

31 posted on 12/01/2002 10:35:39 PM PST by gorebegone
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To: RLK
It's just a matter of time, and how many cities we lose to terrorist WMDs, before we take that step.

When Mecca, Medina and Q'um are reduced to craters, (and allah is proven to be an impotent false god), the insane murder cult will deflate overnight like a leaky balloon.

32 posted on 12/01/2002 10:35:51 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: kattracks
"Around the world are a billion Muslims, only a tiny fraction of whom are waging jihad against Christian minorities or their own rulers." - Buchanan

A tiny fraction? 1% in a tiny fraction, and 1% of 1 billion in 10 million. (1% is the figure that a "moderate" Muslim used recently in an interview on FOX News when estimating the percentage of Jihadists within Islam). That's a lot of Jihadists.

33 posted on 12/01/2002 10:36:30 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Cultural Jihad
Okay I give where do I sign up for html bootcamp?

Spread of religion of peace

34 posted on 12/01/2002 10:37:10 PM PST by gorebegone
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To: gorebegone
Well, in the A HREF tag, you need to sandwich in something in between the "A HREF" and the "/A" parts, because people need to be able to click on something. You created a hyperlink, but gave everyone a thin layer of nothing to click upon. Hence we didn't really get to your link.
35 posted on 12/01/2002 10:38:10 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: gorebegone
Perfect! You did it well in #34.
36 posted on 12/01/2002 10:39:00 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Thanks, is there a way to post an image that ends in .htm or . html, with out having to form a click thingy?
37 posted on 12/01/2002 10:40:48 PM PST by gorebegone
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To: ikka
In the last century, America was threatened by a global communist revolution. Avoiding all-out war, we outlasted it.

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We didn't outlast it. It outlasted us and we have averaged ourselves into it. We now have a tax system being used to force people into social equality. We just had eight years of a president who went to Moscow to support the communists over America in a war. We have a present president repeating Bill Clinton's and Cofi Annan's speaches giving American money to world globalism. I don't need to go on with the entire recitation.

38 posted on 12/01/2002 10:40:56 PM PST by RLK
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To: kattracks
Is Islam a religion of peace?

Not in my lifetime, no.

39 posted on 12/01/2002 10:41:17 PM PST by ChadGore
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To: kattracks
"Should Arafat become president of Palestine, he will face an Islamic party more rabid than the religious parties Sharon must cope with." - Buchanan

Some ultra-orthodox Jews that Pat speaks of may very well be rabid (as in extremely opinionated and dogmatic), but with VERY few exceptions, are a non-violent lot. The same obviously can't be said for hardcore Islamists.

40 posted on 12/01/2002 10:42:13 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Cultural Jihad
cen·sor·ship
cen·sor·ship (sèn¹ser-shîp´) noun

1. The Gall to challenge my views on FreeRepublic
41 posted on 12/01/2002 10:42:25 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: kattracks
"Islam is in a revivalist phase."- Buchanan

That's sure a nice way of putting it, Pat.

42 posted on 12/01/2002 10:44:41 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: gorebegone
Linking to a webpage:

< A HREF="http://www.something-here.com/page2.html">Please Click Here< /A>

43 posted on 12/01/2002 10:45:23 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: A CA Guy
Use some common sense

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I tried common sense, but you didn't like it. Where should we go from here?

44 posted on 12/01/2002 10:46:46 PM PST by RLK
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To: gorebegone

Well, a webpage is not really an image. A webpage might have an image in it you want to post, but you cannot post a webpage as an image here on FR.

45 posted on 12/01/2002 10:47:10 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: gorebegone
Linking to an image:

< A HREF="http://www.something-here.com/image2.gif">Please Click Here To See Cool Map< /A>

46 posted on 12/01/2002 10:48:31 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: kattracks
I understand what the Bush administration is trying to accomplish, and I hope they succeed. We do not want to take on all of Islam unless we have no other choice. Indeed, as a civilized nation, we have a duty to try to avoid such a war.

The evil part of Islam is manifestly NOT a religion of peace. The evil ones are seeking to gain control of the entire religion. We should not make it easy for them to do so.

Hopefully, the evil part is not the majority (we do not know). However, even if it is not the majority, the evil part is already strong enough that most of the rest of Islam is afraid to speak out.

Now is not the time to give the Islamic extremists more fuel for their insane fire. Our own religious leaders have a duty to consider their words carefully.

The day has come when a pimple of a dictator like Saddam Hussein can make biological weapons capable of killing millions. The stakes are very high. Let's not make it easier for the evil ones.
47 posted on 12/01/2002 10:49:40 PM PST by EternalHope
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To: Cultural Jihad
Linking to a webpage:

< A HREF="http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/world_maps/muslim_distribution.jpg">Green takes over Earth< /A>

48 posted on 12/01/2002 10:50:44 PM PST by gorebegone
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To: Cultural Jihad
On this map the heathen world of 1884 is colored green.


49 posted on 12/01/2002 10:55:27 PM PST by gorebegone
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To: gorebegone
You got it now!
Obviously I added some extra spaces in the HTML in order to not make the FR server interpret them as HTML.
That way you can get an idea of how HTML tags are created.

Now imagine all the 1.3 billions of persons in that swath of green who do NOT rape or murder,
who hold to and believe in the words of the Qu'ran which states that God's attributes are the merciful and the compassionate.

50 posted on 12/01/2002 10:57:38 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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