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Why Most Teachers Are Leftists
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| 12/2/2002
| Michael D. Shaw
Posted on 12/02/2002 9:13:24 AM PST by geedee
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To: A_perfect_lady
I'm glad I went to high school in the late 60s and college in the 70s.
Yea... we had some whacko professors in college but not like today.
None of them had a political slant... other than being different.
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posted on
12/02/2002 10:06:59 AM PST
by
johnny7
To: enfield
They are attacking Homeschool here in CA saying the teacher would need at home a teaching credential to be creditied at home.
They are losing the battle to homeschoolers here in CA and the Teachers Union is making a desperate stand to get control of all the children, both legally and illegally here.
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posted on
12/02/2002 10:08:11 AM PST
by
A CA Guy
To: RightOnline
Good work, Right. You've got the tactics down pat.
Institutions all have their own dynamics. If you conform to those dynamics and work with them, you'll tend to prosper within the institution, and the inverse is true as well. The dynamics of the teaching trade -- no, it's not a profession -- emphasize authoritarianism, pseudo-intellectual pretensions, and an attitude of omniscience despite relatively slender real intellectual credentials and an even more slender record of tangible achievement.
You know, thinking about the above, if we hadn't already created the public school system, I'm sure the Left would have invented it.
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To: geedee
My first wife was a public school teacher. She was one of the very few conservative ones. The majority of her peers, I found to be shallow, pseudointellectuals. A criticism I have heard is that the pool of public school teacher candidates was made up of people who were too wimpy to get a job in the private sector. Well, I find that to be true.
My wife had first worked for many years in the private sector, before getting a job teaching. She was hard nosed and didn't take any cr*p from her students, and she was a "special ed" teacher (basically, all the problem behavioral students). She was so good she went on to win an award in the State for teacher of the year, or some such.
But the fact is, most teachers are exactly as the stereotypes portray them. Beevis and Butthead do an excellent parody, as does South Park.
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posted on
12/02/2002 10:16:13 AM PST
by
Paradox
To: ItisaReligionofPeace
"Press the moron for a debate. Don't let him off that easy!"I made my point, and he now knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that I'm closely monitoring him.......and I am.
I had told him that I'm far too busy in my work to have to take a day out for such a thing....and that it should be unnecessary......but I was VERY prepared to do just that. I gave him concrete suggestions of things he should be teaching that are matters of historical fact and, therefore, not as subject to his interpretation.
The slightest hint of a relapse and I'm on 'im like white on rice. I've taken on his Principal and a couple of idiotic English "teachers" there before without blinking, and I think he knows it.
To: CatoRenasci; doug from upland; *Education News
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posted on
12/02/2002 10:26:42 AM PST
by
EdReform
To: johnny7
Ping - Like you, I finished High School in 61 and a Masters in 66. Hell of a difference in the way they started teaching in the 70s on, for I had to go to school throughout the US many of times to counter the way they were teaching mine and other children in the subjects of English, Math, Science and US & World History.
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posted on
12/02/2002 10:26:51 AM PST
by
Slipjack
To: Paradox
Ain't it a shame that teachers like your wife can't rise to the top like the high-achievers in other industries? We so often blame others for the dumbing-down of the curriculum when, in fact, the blame lies with us. With you and me and John Q. Public.
We've been surrounded by the "It ain't my fault" crowd Bill Clinton motivated and, through his refusal to ever accept any personal responsibility for his psychopathic foibles, allowed to dominate this nation's agenda and morals. We've lost the way taught us by our parents' generation. We've allowed the NEA to take over. We've allowed the stars like your wife to be overlooked and abused until their fiery drive eventually flickers and blinks out.
But we can take our schools back. We just need the courage to do it.
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posted on
12/02/2002 10:30:24 AM PST
by
geedee
To: CatoRenasci
The obtained it when school boards knucked under to strike threats instead of saying "fine, you want to strike? you're all fired. And we'll staff the schools with adminstrators and volunteers until you come crawling back without the union or we can hire certifed teachers or get the volunteers certified. And by the way, no more tenure. No politics."Very true. Now all we have to do is deal with the soccer-mom/useful idiots who will vote for anything if it's "for the children." These selfish, lazy, unthinking morons are the ones who help the marxists maintain their power and cash flow. The school districts know this and play to them come time for a new tax levy to go on the ballot. You can threaten to reduce administrators and staff and they don't even flinch...but threaten to cut Johnny's soccer team or (GASP) football program and they will vote away everything that they own, as well as everything of their neighbors. I have voted against every school levy since I reach age 18, and I'll vote against every school levy every time there is one on the ballot.
To: geedee
But, but, but......if it wasn't for teachers, where would the rich doctors and lawyers come from?
We live in one of the most affluent school districts in our state. Thankfully, both of our kids are now in college and do not seem to be too badly maladjusted. It was a struggle to keep them on the RIGHT path. When we went to PS functions (band concert, parent/teacher conference, etc), they all invariably featured a poverty speech. Jenny Mulhern, Michigan's next governor, has promised the MEA (Michigan Extortion Association) that she will work to overthrow the law that prohibits teachers striking.
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posted on
12/02/2002 10:42:40 AM PST
by
RushLake
To: hobbes1
ping
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posted on
12/02/2002 10:45:38 AM PST
by
xsmommy
To: RightOnline
what a fantastic story! i love it!
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posted on
12/02/2002 10:45:59 AM PST
by
xsmommy
To: geedee
the average salary of a U.S. public school teacher for the 2001-02 school year was $44,499. No doubt, this is much lower than other professions such as law and medicine, but one can't enter those with a 2.0 undergrad average from, say, Chico StateOne must recalculate the $44,499 to reflect the fact that teachers get over 3 months OFF.
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posted on
12/02/2002 10:49:52 AM PST
by
1Old Pro
To: Lil'freeper
End compulsion schooling. Violence lies at the heart of it.
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To: enfield
Well our situation is the F'ing Teacher's Union are a bunch of self serving traitors.
We had no problem getting a good education when I was younger with 60 people in a class with one teacher.
Today, if it were up to the Teacher's Union, there would be one Administrator, two teachers and two assistants per child. What a load of caca!
The super secret reason no quality education occurs on a regular basis in public school is the simple reason that "CHILDREN DON'T COME TO SCHOOL PREPARED TO LEARN"
The reason for this is the change of culture as represented by the mostly self indulgent parents who have little or no time for their kids.
Parents don't in great percentages truly put their children before themselves. They say they do, but the lack of preparation for school PROVES THOSE STATEMENTS FROM PARENTS ARE BUNK!
The Teacher's Union shake when they see people home schooling. They can't grow their union and they are proven to be a lousy bang for the public buck.
The thought that teachers need a higher salary is also bunk. Most are the 2.0 students from college, not the 3.65 graduates who took better jobs.
So we are also dealing with moderately capable people who even have the nerve to create their own teacher language for what they are trying to do in order to have them sound like they are smarter than they come close to being.
Yes there are nice teachers as well as the rotten ones out there today.
The real issue is that UNTIL PARENTS PREPARE THEIR KIDS TO LEARN IN A CLASSROOM, public schools will fail.
They also puposly want illegals in class for the sole purpose of growing teachers in their union. It is a gross perversion of our education system and puts our citizens in an even worse condition.
The TEACHER'S UNION IS A SPECIAL INTEREST ONLY!
That is a mild bit about how I feel about that...and how was your day? LOL
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posted on
12/02/2002 6:46:18 PM PST
by
A CA Guy
To: geedee
Not ALL teachers are leftists. Why don't some of you try supporting and backing up those of us who think correctly? Hello?We're out here...we just don't get much support. My main beef with conservatives is that they don't support each other. The liberal element sticks together like glue.
To: Lil'freeper
The motivating force behind teaching and all the problems of mass-schooling is control B-I-N-G-O! You got it 100% right. Control what children learn, think and know and you contol the masses. Teach them to be victims, to depend on the gubmint, to not think for themselves, to not judge right from wrong.
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posted on
12/02/2002 6:56:34 PM PST
by
FourPeas
To: All; Paradox; geedee; enfield; ClearCase_guy; CatoRenasci; A_perfect_lady; headsonpikes; ...
I know it is a fun sport here on FR to bash teachers. And so many of the complaints are valid. But goddamnit, what are any of you
doing to make a difference?
You whine because teachers get more time off than you. Become a teacher. You are not satisfied with the grade point averages and intellect of teachers. Become a teacher. It is not acceptable that teacher's unions have so much power. Become a teacher, and you can help to change these things.
I am a conservative.
I am a veteran of the armed forces.
I deplore the teacher's unions and their power.
My colleagues are not very bright.
My grade point average in undergrad was 3.8.
I have a Master's degree.
I owe $25k in student loans.
I make $45k per year.
I am a teacher.
...and I Freep.
To: enfield
one word: Homeschool. Spellcheck says that's two words.
;-)
(Our daughter is 18 now, and we've homeschooled from the beginning.)
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