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Why Most Teachers Are Leftists
Toogood Reports ^ | 12/2/2002 | Michael D. Shaw

Posted on 12/02/2002 9:13:24 AM PST by geedee

After reading about the trials of Santa Monica (California) High School student Steve Miller, to say nothing of how many young minds are being poisoned every day, teachers themselves, seemed like a worthwhile educational topic.

Teachers Consider Themselves Victims

According to the National Education Association (NEA), the average salary of a U.S. public school teacher for the 2001-02 school year was $44,499. No doubt, this is much lower than other professions such as law and medicine, but one can't enter those with a 2.0 undergrad average from, say, Chico State, nor are there many emergency provisions to obtain employment in those fields without proper certification.

Unlike the other professions, teaching has the security of civil service, and there are almost unlimited opportunities to make considerably more money by simply hanging in, running extracurricular programs, and by becoming an administrator. It is not uncommon for a school administrator, in larger districts, to make well over $100,000.

The "victim" persona comes from them comparing their worthy occupation of instructing America's youth, and being involved in intellectual pursuits, to highly paid entertainers and athletes. To be fair, they also take way too much criticism for being the sole cause of our country getting continuously more stupid with every passing year. They are more aware than most that this failure is primarily the result of the destruction of the American family – especially amongst the Black population – but being toe-tag liberals, cannot say this. This makes them feel even more victimized.

If you're a victim, you're a leftie.

Teachers Consider Themselves To Be Intellectuals

Teachers work with books all day, and, at least, on the surface, are engaging in activities of the mind. They can take some comfort in this, when they compare themselves to athletes and others who seem to get a lot of money for merely physical attributes. Most intellectuals believe that they are superior to all other people, who, even if they must use their minds in their work, have sold out in some manner to achieve their economic success. What could be a more pure use of the intellect than instructing children, after all?

As intellectuals, they are only too ready to tell everyone else how to live, and to put that into practice requires an all-powerful government. Like most intellectuals, they seem to care little for the original functions of government, such as defense, police, and promoting commerce. And like most intellectuals, they enjoy embracing the most perverse ideas, just for the attention.

If you're an intellectual, as this term applies today, you're a leftie.

Teachers Belong To A Huge And Powerful Union

Stripped to its essentials, the NEA is about more money for the school districts, always and without limits of any kind, less accountability, and nearly every single left-wing cause you could possibly imagine. Oh yes, they talk about accountability, but inevitably refer to it as a complex issue that will require more study, so nothing ever seems to actually get done about it.

The NEA sends more voting delegates to the Democratic National Convention than does the State of California, yet the NEA enjoys tax-exempt status, claiming not to engage in political activities of any kind.

Perhaps the teachers would consider themselves less of a victim class if they made significantly more money, but the NEA – like most unions – does its best to determine that will never happen, by protecting bad performers, and fighting against the competition that would occur if vouchers were widely used. The NEA's animus against vouchers stems, of course, from its atheism, since a goodly portion of vouchers would be used to support parochial schools. I guess it's important to be able to choose to terminate a pregnancy, but not to choose where your kid goes to school.

If you're still a true believer in trade unions, you're a leftie.

Teachers Have No Self-Esteem

I know teachers talk about self-esteem all the time, but think of the frat boy who always talked about his sexual conquests, and then was unmasked to have none. For many of them, it's all they can do to lord it over a bunch of kids, and it is just in this kind of environment that Leftist politics flourishes. Why? Since none of the cockamamy ideas would ever stand up to debate, and can only be promulgated unchallenged. That's also why most teachers tend to hang out with other teachers. Despite all the air of superiority, they really do feel inferior. They can take comfort only with their own, and other downtrodden folks.

If you have no self-esteem, you're a leftie.

One or two of these factors would push many people over to the Left, but since most teachers have all four going full-blast, their present condition is easy to understand.

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To: Semper911
Right on! Tell them. I am so frustrated these days...they flame me for pointing out that the students by and large don't want to do their work, BUT it's true. They don't want to do it. We need support from parents to get the working again. Then, they're hireable. Then, employers will not have a leg to stand on when they hire illegal aliens. Do SOMETHING to take the system back, folks, something instead of just complaining or bashing.
41 posted on 12/02/2002 7:18:21 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: Semper911
Most who teach (in higher education, anyway) are experts in their field, as education goes. But they're not tough enough to duke it out in the marketplace, so they retreat into the safety of a union job. Hence most are lefties.

The grade school teachers, in my experience, are motivated by noble intentions, and most that Ive met are salt-of-the-earth types.
Really two classes of people here.
42 posted on 12/02/2002 7:18:49 PM PST by ovrtaxt
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To: Semper911
Good post and so enlightening.

I'm so glad you are a teacher. Undoubtly, you will make a difference in many lives and be responsible for many successes.
43 posted on 12/02/2002 7:24:44 PM PST by NEWwoman
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To: Semper911
God bless your honored service to our country and your hard work to get a Masters with a high GPA. You are NOT the majority at schools as you yourself know.

My sister is a teacher at a private school where learning actually occurs.

The issue that evades the NATIONAL DISCUSSION in this country is the fact that it is not the need for more or substantially better teachers... the issue is that THE PARENTS NO LONGER BRING THEIR CHILDREN TO CLASS PREPARED TO LEARN.

As long as mommy and daddy put their kids at #8 in their true priorities and don't work with their kids 2-4 hours a day at home after school, no change from the current situation will occur.
We also have a problem in that the people who are the poorest manage to breed the most. They tend to put the most stress on the school system IMO!

The Teacher's Union know the problem is the parent's lack of work to bring a prepared child to school, yet they play the problem to grow their ranks and power much like a cancer.

What needs to be done is to change the national debate from teachers in any way, to parents responsibilities for their kids. The parents need to already have their children prepared to learn when they come to school is the real unspoken issue. If that changed, you could have classes of any size and learning would occur.

My question to you is, how do we snag the national debate away from the Teacher's Union and focus it on the need for parents to bring a child prepared to learn to school?

The parents bringing a prepared child to school is the whole issue in a nutshell.
44 posted on 12/02/2002 7:42:59 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: A CA Guy
Will you move to my town and enroll your kids in my school?

You really get it. And that is one debate that will never happen, because it involves personal freaking responsibility. Not a trend in this country that I can see.

But I will still fight the good fight... one middle schooler at a time.

45 posted on 12/02/2002 7:48:18 PM PST by Semper911
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To: Semper911
The debate will have to happen....eventually there can be no other excuse for what is happening.

Home schooling brings this issue to the public as they make people ask how somebody at home with little or no funds could outperform the professionals.
46 posted on 12/02/2002 8:02:02 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: Semper911
You make some good points. I would like to point out that everyone can do something to make a difference. Be a mentor.

Not to be a jerk, but what was your undergrad degree in? 3.8 is good, but it is more impressive in some subjects than others. Also, 45k a year is almost twice the national average wage. More importantly, is this 45k a year include working during the summer or not? 45k with good health care, good could be a lot worse!

47 posted on 12/02/2002 8:02:31 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Semper911
I thought about your post for a few minutes before responding because I wanted to make sure my thoughts were clear.

I am 44, and have worked in the High Tech sector since I got out of the Army in 80.

With the ups and downs of the economy, I have found myself out of a job on several occasions, and have been working for a School District of 50,000 students for 10 years.

I manage a huge Telecom Network. I attend planning sessions, do Infrastructure design, and manage a multi milliom dollar budget.

And what do I get paid for this you ask?

About $60K a year. What I made in a bad year as a contractor.

In return, I get a lot of days off and job security.

I would LOVE to become a teacher. I am great with kids, and actually was an Instructor in the Army in Electronics and loved it.

I enquired to the possibility of becoming a teacher and found the dirty little secret of the teaching profession.

You must have a Teaching Certificate in order to become fully qualified. I could of course have gone back to school and recieved a Degree then a Teching Certificate, after about 8 or 9 years of course.

The fact that I actually DO the craft has apparantly nothing to do with it.

The recent trend in education is to do away with all education in "the trades", such as Carpentry, Automotive and Electronics in favor of a strictly college bound track.

So I ask you, what should be done to open up the system to people like myself ?

I ask all the time, to those of whom will listen anyway, where will the next set of Mechanics, Carpenters and Electricians come from ?

Certainly not from the pencil necked geek crowd who think the world lives and dies on degrees. frankly, I think the majority of the "Certificated Employees" I work with, would all tend to agree. They all make at least my salary or better, all for 2 months a year more off and better benefits.

Please don’t take any of this as a personal attack, far from it.

I sympathize with you and would love to join you in the teaching profession, but the deck seems stacked against it.

The fact is, for most Government jobs that involve any sort of education requirement, you nearly always get paid less.

This is not always a bad thing.

I am personally willing to trade a more lucrative lifestyle for security and free time.

It all depends on what you are looking for...


knews hound

48 posted on 12/02/2002 8:07:39 PM PST by knews_hound
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To: ovrtaxt
I know quite a few teaching in higher learning circles. The ones I know are highly successful outside of class (millionaires). They can-do as well as teach, at least in the business departments. LOL
49 posted on 12/02/2002 8:07:40 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Depending on where you live in the US, $45,000 is not average money for a household. In California, that would be a family struggling real hard to pay the bills in most cases.
50 posted on 12/02/2002 8:18:19 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Not to be a jerk, but what was your undergrad degree in?
I had a double major - History and International Relations, with a minor in secondary ed.

3.8 is good, but it is more impressive in some subjects than others.
I wasn't trying to impress anyone. All that means to me is that I did what I was asked to do in college. (...and I still mourn over those few Bs I got.)

Also, 45k a year is almost twice the national average wage.
It is hardly the national average for Americans with a graduate degree.

More importantly, is this 45k a year include working during the summer or not?
Okay add on a few k for my after school and summer teaching gigs.

45k with good health care, good could be a lot worse!
Make no mistake, I am grateful every day for the career I have. Some days I can't believe I am where I am. I would do it for free. I never meant to complain, just to make the point to those who are constantly bashing all teachers in general, and making no attempt to support the good ones and root out the bad ones.

51 posted on 12/02/2002 8:28:05 PM PST by Semper911
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To: Northern Yankee
ping-ing my dear, humble, and obedient to the North!
52 posted on 12/02/2002 8:31:39 PM PST by kstewskis
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To: knews_hound
Depending on your state, there are alternative routes to certification. And there are technical high schools who would benefit from your experience and knowledge.

It wouldn't take you "8 or 9 years" to get certified. No way. You would just have to work your ass off, jump through the regulation hoops, and do whatever it takes.

However, (and please don't take this personally) please don't become a teacher for the "security and free time". We already have a myriad of teachers who teach because they get the Summers off and are guaranteed their job just for showing up most of the time.

You need to have a fire burning that compels you to spend your days with kids, make a difference in their lives, and make a valuable contribution to them that will be with them always.

You will know if you are a teacher if you must pursue the profession, no matter what it takes.

53 posted on 12/02/2002 8:57:57 PM PST by Semper911
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To: geedee
Say it with me class.

Teachers are not all lefties...


People who generalize are automatically going to be wrong...


If you think that it's so damn easy, you come and try it for a semester.

Thank you class.

54 posted on 12/02/2002 9:16:52 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: Semper911
I will not become a teacher in public schools.

A) I couldn't stand the horrific pay cut;

B) I couldn't stand working with such drooling idiots (the teachers and administrators) all day,

C) Been homeschooling probably longer than you've been teaching......and I'm the dad of seven,

D) I've already given one small example of what I've done to deal with public schools. We homeschool our kids up to high school, so I wind up dealing with public high schools only.

I wish you well in your chosen career....but many of us choose to change the "system" in other ways that are every bit as effective.

55 posted on 12/02/2002 9:23:38 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: enfield
Be proud, their success in life will be based on the foundation of the tools and love your family has provided.

Your time is well spent. God Bless You.
57 posted on 12/02/2002 10:35:13 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: enfield
That isn't happening by accident.
59 posted on 12/03/2002 12:03:14 AM PST by A CA Guy
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To: Semper911
45k and you have two months off every summer? How long have you been teaching? I hate to tell you this, but I know plenty of people with Graduate degrees who make about this much. I also know people with Chemical Engineering degrees who are having a hard time finding a job. I also know plenty of people who make a little more than you, but are constantly worried about being laid off.
60 posted on 12/03/2002 5:15:19 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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