Imams of Inanity (US Christian Fundamentalists=Islamic radicals BARF ALERT!!!)

The Washington Post ^ | December 3, 2002 | Richard Cohen

[judicial meanz]

Absolutely gaspar. My experience when traveling in the Muslim world was limited to keeping my mouth shut while the ultra religious Muslims preached death to Jews and Christians non stop.

I bet this guy probably never even spent a day in worship. He claims to be a Jew, but I notice most leftist Jews are secular and refuse to adhere to the faith and its principles.

He may wake up when his cherished adherents to the "religon of peace" call a fatwa on him for some stupid reason and attempt to snuff out his mentally challenged and morally challenged opinions.

[syriacus]

I'll bet...

if Cohen would have been alive three or four thousand years ago, he would have criticized Moses and the prophets

[joesnuffy]

What set off the WTC bombings...

What sets off the thousands of child Hamas-cide bombing
s
What sets off the child rape..sex slave trade among the muslims of the Sudan
and the torture/murder burnings and traumatic amputations of Christian children who refuse to convert to Islam...

What sets this off...

The Koran...The Profit Mo ham hand...The Immans, & Mullets..

And the tacit approval of the moderates and their liberal commie buddies in the media and whorllywood

So naturally they would blame Christians...

Kind of like blaming the Guillotine victim for having a head...

Well yeah...Like.."If he didnt have a head it wouldnt have been chopped off..." dude.

[Admin Moderator]

If you have a point, make it without the personal attacks and insults please. You know the rules. Thank you.

[TLBSHOW]

Can you say Nuclear?

HERZLIYA, Israel, Dec. 2 (UPI) -- The head of Israel's National Security Council said Monday that a "mega-terror attack" threatening Israel's existence would open options for retaliation that hitherto "were unacceptable to public opinion."


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Halevy did not detail the kind of response that Israel would take, but implied that it would be harsher than anything that the country has done until now.



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[dirtboy]

It wasn't all that long ago a few crazies in white sheets were running around this country terrorizing blacks in the name of Christianity.

Note the past tense. Christianity has overcome those problems. Islam in general is backsliding.

[BaghdadBarney]

Hmmmm... i wonder whether you - like other Americans at the time - would have thought that Christianity was "backsliding" from the actions of the Klan during the first 60 years of the last century? I wonder is it your opinion also that Islam is a "cult"?

[concerned about politics]

The Klan was probably part of a prelude to Planned Parenthood, but used 'Christianity' as their shield.
85% of abortion clinics are in minority areas. The black purging continues to this day.
Planned Parenthood is using the birth of Christ right now on Christmas cards advocating the killing of all those black children. They say Jesus would have supported the choice to kill the minorities and "undesirables."

[tsomer]

liberal columnists turn to the tried and true: Smear fundamentalist Christian leaders

I'll bet if you got that idiot half drunk he would admit his true convictions: "all organized religion sucks," he'd probably say. I don't think this would be that hard to do either, just serve him some fair-to-middling scotch.

Liberals are trying to destroy, or neuter our churches.That is why they equate our churches with islam. They are hell bent and will not listen to any evidence contrary to their predjudices.

If you have to respond, respond to the editor of the paper that ran the editorial. Threaten to cancel. They pay attention to that.

[Matchett-PI]

cap: "...the radical Muslims want a holy war. By saying they're a religion of peace, Bush isn't letting them have it. They want their holy war! Damn it!! They want their Jahad, but Bush is keeping their base quiet. They want their holy war!!! "Waaaa! Damn that Bush!" .... if the President of the US condemned ALL muslims, they'd be bloodshed on every doorstop. ....".

You're basically right. But these are the EXACT words that Dubya used:

President Bush: "Islam --- as practiced by most Muslims --- is a peaceful religion."

Cohen: "Back in October the Rev. Jerry Falwell called Muhammad, the founder of Islam, a terrorist. This set off riots in India and may have contributed to the good showing of religious parties in the Pakistani election. About two weeks after he made the remark, Falwell retracted it. ... "Adolf Hitler was bad, but what the Muslims want to do to the Jews is worse," Robertson said recently. [Then] Robertson went on ABC's "This Week" and repeated it all to George Stephanopoulos."

I videotapedd it, so here is the excerpted exchange for those who didn't see it:

ABC This Week - Sunday - 12-1-02 with George Stephanopoulos

At the beginning of the segment with Pat Robertson, Stephie shows a clip of GWB (in answer to a reporter's question), saying:

President Bush: "There have been comments made by some prominent, well-known personalities that do not reflect the position of this Administration, nor the majority of the American people. Islam, as practiced by most Muslims , is a peaceful religion."

[INTERJECTION by M-PI: Please note that Dubya did NOT say that Islam is a "peaceful religion".

Please note that he DID NOT say anything about his personal "beliefs" But he DID SAY what THE POSITION of his Administration, and that of most Americans is.

What he did say is that most Muslims are peaceful in their practice of Islam.

MAJOR, MAJOR important difference!!! Those are wise words. To frame things any other way would be to incite, inflame and escalate terrorist activity, and gain them sympathy from other (so far *peaceful*) Muslims. NOT SMART -- STUPID, in fact.]

Stephie said to Pat Robertson, "It sounds as if you are saying that it [Islam] is evil at it's core."

[INTERJECTION by M-PI: I'm no fan of Robertson by any means, but Stephie was trying to put the word *evil* in Robertson's mouth for a reason.

For the first time, to his credit, Robertson made it a point to praise Dubya for the way he is framing the war (because of geo-political realities).]

Robertson replied, "I didn't say it is evil at its core, I said it is violent at its core. Bush is very smart not to set this up as a holy war, even though his words have caused confusion among many Christians. But they [his words] are politically smart because he's dealing with geo-political realities. His use of the terms is artful, but his base (Christians) know better."

Stephie said, "But his words have caused consternation among many in his base, so what do you think the consequences of that will be?"

Robertson said, "No consequences among his base because we all love him. We know that Bush doesn't want to make this a Muslim/Christian fight. And we know that the terrorists have always tried to make it that."

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Also see: HERE and HERE

[swarthyguy]

Sounds like Powell and Bush a couple of weeks ago.

[TLBSHOW]

and then Cal Thomas wrote today!
Paul Weyrich, a longtime conservative political force in Washington, has co-authored an essay called "Why Islam Is a Threat to America and the West." In it, he quotes extensively from the Koran and rebuts the president's contention that this "great religion" is mostly peaceful: " . the real nature of Islam is a religion of war and conquest. Those who argue that the threat comes only from'Islamic fundamentalism' or'Islamic extremism' misportray the nature of Islam itself. War against the unbeliever is as central a doctrine and practice of Islam as the Virgin Birth, the Trinity and Christ's Resurrection are central to Christianity. Islam cannot abandon jihad and remain Islam. The word'Islam' does not mean'peace,' it means'submission.' "

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Weyrich also notes that more Christians are being martyred today than at the height of the Roman persecutions, and "most of them are dying at the hands of Islam."

One can sympathize with the dilemma faced by President Bush. He needs some cover in the Muslim world in order to prosecute the war on terrorism. But he also needs to forearm Americans by warning them about the intentions of our enemies.

There is a way of doing this without getting into a theological argument similar to the unanswerable question about the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin. The theological battle must be taken to the Muslim world.

The president should consider calling for "moderate" Muslims to clean up their own house. Such demands are being made by Roman Catholic laity on their hierarchy in the wake of priests alleged to have sexually abused children. The president should ask Muslim political and theological leaders to go after their own, if they are, indeed, misrepresenting "true" Islam. We should not have to clean up after the mess they have made.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/799550/posts?page=14#14

ISLAM IS THE ENEMY

[concerned about politics]

But he also needs to forearm Americans by warning them about the intentions of our enemies.

He is. He's letting all those around him do it for him. Those who have ears will hear.
That way, his plate as leader of the United States is clear and safer from his enemies. Bush remains squeekie clean to the quiet Muslim world, but Americans are still getting the message loud and clear.
"Be ye as gentle as a dove, but as wise as a serpant."

[TLBSHOW]

You can't win a war with a shadow!

[syriacus]

He is. He's letting all those around him do it for him. Those who have ears will hear.

This is so true.

Even the newspapers are "helping" by "investigating" such things as Saudi "charities" and pay-offs.

(The investigating newspapers may think they are (indirectly) criticizing the Bush Administration, but they are really just laying the groundwork for a clearer view of what has been going on in the Middle East and in the U.S terrorist cells.).

Bush already has plenty to do and doesn't need to do all the work himself. He can keep his eye on the ball and let others do the legwork.

Smart executives know when to delegate authority.

[Matchett-PI]

"ISLAM IS THE ENEMY"

Wrongo.

Radical, religious zealots in ANY religion are the danger.

Those who practice any religion in non-peaceful ways are enemies of our Constitution, Rule of Law, and to our God-given freedoms.

Radical, zealot Marxist/Leftist/Liberals that have been practicing their religion in non-peaceful ways by imposing their beliefs on the rest of us for over 60 years fall into that catagory.

There are even radical, zealots that claim to be "Christians" who are champing at the bit for the opportunity to obtain power and control at the Federal level so as to impose their version of "Gawd's government" on the rest of us, too ... whether we like it or not.

I thank God for inspiring our Framers to put the Constitution between them and me.

[concerned about politics]

You can't win a war with a shadow!

Reagan won the cold war without firing a shot. Go figure. Strategery.

[concerned about politics]

There are even radical, zealots that claim to be "Christians" who are champing at the bit for the opportunity to obtain power and control at the Federal level so as to impose their version of "Gawd's government" on the rest of us, too

"What would Jesus drive?"
"Choice on earth" Christmas cards.

[Alouette]

I think Falwell is an idiot.

Falwell is not an idiot.

Takes one to know one.