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UN Inspectors find Mustard Gas Shells
AP | 12/05/2002

Posted on 12/04/2002 12:53:24 PM PST by rumrunner

Demetrius Perricos, who is leading one of the U.N. inspection teams in Iraq, said Wednesday his team of international arms experts secured about a dozen Iraqi artillery shells containing the mustard liquid agent.


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KEYWORDS: chemicalweapons; iraq; materialbreech
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1 posted on 12/04/2002 12:53:24 PM PST by rumrunner
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To: rumrunner
I'm certain there will be an explanation forthcoming. HA!
2 posted on 12/04/2002 12:54:45 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: rumrunner
Demetrius Perricos, who is leading one of the U.N. inspection teams in Iraq, said Wednesday his team of international arms experts secured about a dozen Iraqi artillery shells containing the mustard liquid agent.

Fingers are flying as the Iraqis change their WMD inventory from "Nothing" to "Eight shells of mustard gas that the U.N. inspectors planted to trigger a war."

3 posted on 12/04/2002 12:55:51 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: rumrunner
dejon or brown?
4 posted on 12/04/2002 12:56:22 PM PST by js1138
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To: rumrunner
Is that a WMD? Or is it just banned?
5 posted on 12/04/2002 12:56:24 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: rumrunner
material breach
6 posted on 12/04/2002 12:56:39 PM PST by Maedhros
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To: dirtboy
Grey poupon?
7 posted on 12/04/2002 12:56:56 PM PST by Shermy
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To: rumrunner
Is Mustard gas considered a WMD?
8 posted on 12/04/2002 12:57:07 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: rumrunner
Ok, now what?
9 posted on 12/04/2002 12:57:15 PM PST by The Turbanator
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To: js1138
Grey Poupon! Saddam likes the very best.
10 posted on 12/04/2002 12:57:22 PM PST by RippleFire
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To: A Navy Vet
I should think so. Nasty, nasty stuff.
11 posted on 12/04/2002 12:58:23 PM PST by Frank_Discussion
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To: savedbygrace
I'm certain there will be an explanation forthcoming. HA! Saddam likes hot dogs?
12 posted on 12/04/2002 12:59:10 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: rumrunner
Breaking news?
13 posted on 12/04/2002 12:59:22 PM PST by EternalHope
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To: A Navy Vet
Is Mustard gas considered a WMD?

Iraq considers it a crowd control agent.

14 posted on 12/04/2002 12:59:26 PM PST by js1138
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To: RightWhale
it's a certainly chemical weapon, which should mean that it falls under the wmd umbrella
15 posted on 12/04/2002 12:59:32 PM PST by Maedhros
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To: A Navy Vet
Mustard gas=chemical weapon=WMD
YES!
16 posted on 12/04/2002 12:59:32 PM PST by The Turbanator
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To: rumrunner
BAGHDAD, Iraq, Dec 04, 2002 (AP WorldStream via COMTEX) -- AP Special Correspondent

Iraq objected Wednesday to U.N. weapons inspectors' surprise intrusion into one of Saddam Hussein's presidential palaces. The U.N. monitors countered that they're taking the right approach - navigating between Iraqi complaints and U.S. pressure for more "severe" inspections.

"We are getting results," said inspection team leader Demetrius Perricos.

Among other things, he reported that on a five-hour inspection Wednesday of a desert installation, the international arms experts secured about a dozen Iraqi artillery shells - previously known to be there - containing a powerful chemical weapon, the liquid agent mustard.

It was the first report of such armaments traced and controlled in the week-old round of new inspections.

Perricos' team and another paid unannounced visits to that key site and to the nerve center of Iraq's old nuclear weapons program, places that were bombed, searched and dismantled in the 1990s. The 2002 inspectors wanted to ensure that Baghdad's plans for ultimate weapons have not been revived.

[snip]

17 posted on 12/04/2002 12:59:45 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: rumrunner
Now let's see if these canisters are listed on the so-called inventory Iraq is supposed to release tomorrow.
18 posted on 12/04/2002 1:00:11 PM PST by mass55th
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To: dirtboy
EXACTLY
19 posted on 12/04/2002 1:01:05 PM PST by FreeTheHostages
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To: rumrunner
Well, that didn't take long, did it?

Any word on where they were found?

Did Saddam not categorically deny that he had any weapons of mass destruction, including chemical weapons?

D
20 posted on 12/04/2002 1:01:08 PM PST by daviddennis
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To: rumrunner
Sounds like someone screwed up at the UN. Whoever was supposed to notify the Iraqis of the inspection schedule, failed to to do so. This stuff wasn't supposed to be found. Iraq has no WMD, you know. [sarcasm off]
21 posted on 12/04/2002 1:01:23 PM PST by iceskater
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To: All

link

22 posted on 12/04/2002 1:02:02 PM PST by Maedhros
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To: rumrunner
Soon to be heard at DUmmyland and the UN

"BUT BUT BUT its only 8 shells"

In Baghdad, a senior Iraqi official said Iraq will hand over its report on chemical, biological and nuclear programs on Saturday, a day ahead of the U.N. deadline. The official, Gen. Hossam Mohammed Amin, said the report will not admit to any proscribed weaponry "because, really, we have no weapons of mass destruction."


23 posted on 12/04/2002 1:03:21 PM PST by finnman69
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To: A Navy Vet
A HORRID Chemical blister-agent. I think it should be counted among them. Slow, painful pathetic death on contact. It might not kill you, but after a heavy exposure you'd wish it had.

If I recall death typically occurred from the blisters which formed in the lungs burst and the victim drowned.

24 posted on 12/04/2002 1:04:58 PM PST by Caipirabob
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To: savedbygrace
I'm certain there will be an explanation forthcoming. HA!

Condiment for eating hot dogs on the run..........?

25 posted on 12/04/2002 1:05:23 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: rumrunner
Curious, no mention of "Bad manners" by UN "Inspectors" by Iraqi "officals."

Elementry, my dear Watson.

26 posted on 12/04/2002 1:05:35 PM PST by Ground0
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Among other things...

It's the other things I am really curious about!

27 posted on 12/04/2002 1:06:11 PM PST by alley cat
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To: mass55th
If they were not on the inventory today, you can bet they will be on it tomorrow.
28 posted on 12/04/2002 1:06:27 PM PST by blau993
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
What does previoulsy known to be there mean?
29 posted on 12/04/2002 1:06:53 PM PST by finnman69
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To: rumrunner
Material Breech!
30 posted on 12/04/2002 1:07:32 PM PST by demlosers
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To: A Navy Vet
EEEEP!

Mustard Gas (Yperite) was first used by the German Army in September 1917. The most lethal of all the poisonous chemicals used during the war, it was almost odourless and took twelve hours to take effect. Yperite was so powerful that only small amounts had to be added to high explosive shells to be effective. Once in the soil, mustard gas remained active for several weeks.

The skin of victims of mustard gas blistered, the eyes became very sore and they began to vomit. Mustard gas caused internal and external bleeding and attacked the bronchial tubes, stripping off the mucous membrane. This was extremely painful and most soldiers had to be strapped to their beds. It usually took a person four or five weeks to die of mustard gas poisoning. One nurse, Vera Brittain, wrote: "I wish those people who talk about going on with this war whatever it costs could see the soldiers suffering from mustard gas poisoning. Great mustard-coloured blisters, blind eyes, all sticky and stuck together, always fighting for breath, with voices a mere whisper, saying that their throats are closing and they know they will choke."

More here

31 posted on 12/04/2002 1:07:38 PM PST by Caipirabob
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To: A Navy Vet
YES
32 posted on 12/04/2002 1:07:53 PM PST by demlosers
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To: EternalHope
A chemical agent was discovered by UN inspectors today and you don't consider this to be a breaking news item?
33 posted on 12/04/2002 1:08:01 PM PST by weegee
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To: dirtboy
Fingers are flying as the Iraqis change their WMD inventory from "Nothing" to "Eight shells of mustard gas that the U.N. inspectors planted to trigger a war."

Right. This is the traitorous UN at work again. They were supposed to wait until the Iraqis declared no WMDs before pouncing on known stockpiles of the stuff.

34 posted on 12/04/2002 1:09:06 PM PST by Starrgaizr
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To: rumrunner
Iraq Tells the World Again We Have No Banned Arms

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=564&ncid=716&e=8&u=/nm/20021204/ts_nm/iraq_dc
By Nadim Ladki and Carol Giacomo

BAGHDAD/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Iraq said on Wednesday its planned declaration to the United Nations (news - web sites) would cover biological, chemical, missile and nuclear technologies, but stressed again it had no weapons of mass destruction.

Baghdad's latest statement was another message of defiance to President Bush (news - web sites), who insists Iraq does possess weapons of mass destruction and has threatened war if necessary to disarm it.

U.S. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz cooled any talk of imminent war, however, saying Iraq's declaration to the U.N. would not in itself trigger a U.S. decision on military action.

"I'm quite sure (Bush) is not going to make it simply on the basis of one single piece of information," Wolfowitz said in Brussels. "He's going to make it...also (in) close consultation, particularly with our allies but indeed with the international community."

Hussam Mohammed Amin, head of the Iraqi National Monitoring Directorate, said in Baghdad: "The declaration will repeat that in Iraq there are no weapons of mass destruction.

"It will be a huge declaration. Of course it contains new elements," he told a news conference.

Amin, who has already said the dossier will be handed over on Saturday, a day before the U.N. deadline, said it would cover "biological, chemical and missile and nuclear activities" as well as "dual-use activities," a reference to technology with both civilian and military applications.

Washington dismissed Iraq's statement and demanded a more aggressive U.N. hunt for arms of mass destruction as inspectors in Iraq trudged past camels and through a foul-smelling desert site. So far they have found nothing untoward, apart from some old artillery shells containing mustard gas that the U.N. already knew about.
35 posted on 12/04/2002 1:09:24 PM PST by finnman69
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To: rumrunner
Sacré bleu, Attaquezz!
36 posted on 12/04/2002 1:09:58 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: finnman69
Washington dismissed Iraq's statement and demanded a more aggressive U.N. hunt for arms of mass destruction as inspectors in Iraq trudged past camels and through a foul-smelling desert site. So far they have found nothing untoward, apart from some old artillery shells containing mustard gas that the U.N. already knew about.
37 posted on 12/04/2002 1:10:20 PM PST by finnman69
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One nurse, Vera Brittain, wrote: "I wish those people who talk about going on with this war whatever it costs could see the soldiers suffering from mustard gas poisoning.

Sounds like the peace in our lifetime crowd had advocates during WWI as well.

38 posted on 12/04/2002 1:11:14 PM PST by weegee
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To: rumrunner
This is a vey series Material Bench™..........
39 posted on 12/04/2002 1:11:42 PM PST by cmsgop
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To: rumrunner
Permission to fire, sir?

Saddam Countdown 0cents Stamp Products

40 posted on 12/04/2002 1:11:52 PM PST by Seeking the truth
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To: RightWhale
Is that a WMD? Or is it just banned?

Mustard Gas is a chemical weapon (pretty nasty one at that as well) which by the US definition is a WMD.

41 posted on 12/04/2002 1:12:42 PM PST by Centurion2000
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To: finnman69
What does previoulsy known to be there mean?

It means Saddam is a dead man.

42 posted on 12/04/2002 1:13:24 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: rumrunner
Paging Scott Ridder, Scott Ridder now what should we do? Uncle Saddom paging Scott.
43 posted on 12/04/2002 1:13:33 PM PST by The Turbanator
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To: RightWhale
Is that a WMD?

Saddam used mustard gas on Kurds in northern Iraq during a 1987-88 campaign known as the Anfal, wich possibly killed 5,000 people and left 65,000 others facing severe skin and respiratory diseases, abnormal rates of cancer and birth defects, and a devastated environment.
44 posted on 12/04/2002 1:19:31 PM PST by Eric Esot
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mustard gas
chemical compound used as a poison gas in World War I. The burning sensation it causes on contact with the skin is similar to that caused by oil from black mustard seeds.

The compound is not a gas but a colorless, oily liquid with a somewhat sweet, agreeable odor; it boils at 217. A powerful vesicant, mustard gas causes severe blistering even in small quantities.

Highly irritating to the eyes, it quickly causes conjunctivitis and blindness.

If inhaled, it attacks the respiratory tract and lungs, causing pulmonary edema. Some effects of exposure to mustard gas are delayed up to 12 hr; death may result several days after exposure.

Mustard gas was introduced by the Germans in warfare against the British at Ypres, Belgium, in July, 1917, and took a heavy toll of casualties. It is dispersed as an aerosol by a bursting shell.

Chemically, mustard gas is a thioether, 2,2-dichlorodiethyl sulfide, (ClCH 2 CH 2 ) 2 S. It can be prepared by reacting ethylene with sulfur monochloride, S 2 Cl 2 , or by other methods. Its vesicant property is readily destroyed either by oxidation or by chlorination (e.g., with bleaching powder).


http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/m1/mustardg.asp
45 posted on 12/04/2002 1:19:52 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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Gas Warfare - WW1

The horrors of gas warfare had never been seen on a battlefield until 1915. The Germans have been credited with the first use, but the French and English were not far behind. Gas was a nuisance, a crippling nuisance, often only wounding and causing widespread panic instead of outright killing. Add a gas mask to the already surreal atmosphere of an offensive's rolling bombardments and heavy machine gun fire, and what you got must have been close to hell.
46 posted on 12/04/2002 1:21:59 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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48 posted on 12/04/2002 1:22:55 PM PST by SkyPilot
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My husbands great uncle was killed by the Germans in WWI with mustard gas. I wonder, when they said they already knew about the gas, what that means. If they knew in the past and didn't do anything, what in heck were they doing in the 90's. What did Hill and Bill know and when did they know it?
49 posted on 12/04/2002 1:23:05 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
So now we are to get a lesson in PROCESS.

The U.N. PROCESS of verifying results, writing it up, passing it up stream for approval, further verification, further approval, further documention checks, passed to the Security Council, questioned and appealed by the Iraqi's ... ad nauseum and all set up to run out the clock on cool weather attacks before the spring heat arrives.

50 posted on 12/04/2002 1:26:19 PM PST by flamefront
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