Liars of Arabia

New York Daily News ^ | 12/05/02

[nypokerface]

Despite the polished, colloquial speech of Saudi Arabia's Americanized spokesman, Adel Al Jubeir, the desert kingdom isn't doing a very good job of convincing Americans that it is on the right side in the war against terrorism.

Before and after 9/11, the Persian Gulf's wealthiest state has been the No. 1 source of terrorists and the No. 1 source of terrorist funding. And through an international network of mosques and religious schools, the Saud family and its ultra-extremist Wahhabi Islam allies are breeding the next generation of mass murderers. Sen. Chuck Schumer is right in demanding that the Saudis stop funding the madrassahs, the religious schools that infuse their lessons with hatred of non-Muslims.

Because of all this, and because the Saudi ambassador's wife handed out cash that may have ended up in the pockets of two 9/11 hijackers - 15 of whom were Saudis - Saudi Arabia is being lambasted worldwide. Still, Al Jubeir, with a straight face, complains that his country "has been unfairly maligned." America would settle for unfairly maligned. America was unfairly attacked in an act of war that turned thousands of innocents into dust. The Saudi kingdom bears a significant share of the responsibility.

Al Jubeir was trotted out this week, ostensibly to explain efforts to prevent terrorists from getting Saudi money. What he offered was little more than a wishy-washy press release with "rehash" stamped all over it: The Saudis will audit charities. The Saudis have frozen bank accounts tied to terror.

The freeze applies to the accounts of just three people, for a total of $5.5 million. In Saudi Arabia, that's about a week's worth of figs.

Amid this public relations blitz, the Saudi interior minister expressed the kingdom's true bent, arguing that the 15 Saudis could not possibly have been on the 9/11 airliners. Rather, Zionists (read Jews) were responsible for the attacks. The interior minister has been in the desert sun too long if he thinks the world will buy such outrageous fiction. Besides, the world has already heard the words of the chief cleric (a Saudi) at Mecca's Grand Mosque, who called Jews "the scum of the human race, the rats of the world, the killers of the prophets and the grandsons of monkeys and pigs."

The Saudi kingdom commits human rights abuses the U.S. wouldn't tolerate anywhere else. It is the only country in the world that has never held an election of any kind. Women are by law second-class citizens. Jews are verboten. Beheadings are public entertainment. Saudi Arabia is basically the Taliban with oil.

While U.S. officials mull regime change in Iraq, they might mull it for our sham of an ally, too. The moderate and modern Hashemite royal family of Jordan could return to the throne it lost to the medieval, retrograde Sauds in the 1920s. Worth considering, isn't it?

[rovenstinez]

Ala and Mahomma both lie. Interestingly, the God of Israel said that He could NOT lie. So why wouldn't the Saudi's lie?

[TomGuy]

Yesterday, Al-Jubier was on FoxNews. He stated, "Democracies don't start offensive wars." He even repeated that statement.

It is interesting he/they (ME Arab leaders) understand that about Democracies. It is also interesting that Al-Jubier did not go further by indicating Saudi/Arab leaders want democracy. Other reports have indicated just the opposite. They oppose the US efforts in Iraq because they actually fear Iraq becoming a democratic state.

The ME leaders, most through inheritance/bloodline, are in an ideological conflict. They fear they cannot maintain their control and support democracy. However, they also see their control being challenged from the more radical elements of their own religion, namely, the Omar-Taliban/Bin Laden-Wahabbis types. They want the US presence for their own protection--and, of course, a major outlet for their oil; but they fear the US ideology (democracy).

[Uncle Miltie]

"Before and after 9/11, the Persian Gulf's wealthiest state has been the No. 1 source of terrorists and the No. 1 source of terrorist funding. And through an international network of mosques and religious schools, the Saud family and its ultra-extremist Wahhabi Islam allies are breeding the next generation of mass murderers. Sen. Chuck Schumer is right in demanding that the Saudis stop funding the madrassahs, the religious schools that infuse their lessons with hatred of non-Muslims."

The Saudis are the source of Al-Quaida's:

Leadership
Personnel
Funding
Ideology
Schooling
Escape Routes

The war is not over until the House of Saud falls.

[American in Israel]

Rather, Zionists (read Jews) were responsible for the attacks.

Know why they use the buzz word Zionists now instead of Jews? Because Americans are Zionists too. More and more you will see the shift as the Jihad spreads.

[Scarlet_Pimpernil]

There are multiple reasons why we should postpone Iraq and occupy Saudi Arabia first. The obvious and only contrary argument is that it is politically inexpedient. We should pick off the weaker enemy first and have a great staging area inplace to lay waste to WMD's in Iraq. Its unlikely that WMD's would be used against an Americanized Arabia because of the presence of Mecca and Medina.

Let's look at some of the reasons to do it:
-They have almost no military. We Probably have more American troops there now than they have altogether. A well planned assault would be over in an instant with no casualties on our side, a few key high level ones on theirs.
-The people are oppressed. We could win over the common people very quickly with adequate food, prosthetic limbs to replace ones cut off by muslim butchers, medical care and other 20th century ammenities
-The assets that fund terror really would be frozen, as they obviously aren't at present
-speaking of assets, we could easily fund the war once we control their oil: the economic portion of the war would be won, as we would take reparations from the fund
-The propaganda war would lose a major battle as Islamic states in the region expressed their hate of us, but we would win the propaganda war when our appointed local democratic arabic governor came out in support of us
-An assault done right would yield documentation to support the invasion after the fact, similar to the documents Israel found after it surrounded Yassar Arafat's compound. It might yield documentation going the other way instead, but being a just nation, at that point we could pay them off and get out.
-Personally, I would speculate that it will lead to the capture of Ossama Bin Laden because he might be home, enjoying the protection of the Saudis.

[angkor]

The war is not over until the House of Saud falls.

First Iraq, then Iran will follow from internal revolt. They will both need to sell lots of oil. So in a roundabout way, the fumigation of Iraq is a strategic means of stopping terrorism financing by the Saudis (not to mention the lesser contributions by Iraq and Iran themselves). The Saudis will have lost their extortionate stranglehold on Mideast policy.

Iraq is a center that cannot hold. When it goes down, the entire Middle East will be destabilized, but in a favorable way.

That'll bring about the destruction of the fundamentalist pigs and their financiers, and if we're lucky the PA, Hamas and the Kashmir terrorists as well. One year from now, we'll be treating the Saudis like the spoiled little brats which they are.

I'm still wondering who's going to clean out the rathole of Pakistan.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

India already has figured out the targets in Paki...leave it to them.

[Brian Allen]

<< Know why they use the buzz word Zionists now instead of Jews? Because Americans are Zionists too. >>

Every Good Man on Earth is a Zionist.

[But almost every Good Man on Earth is American, New Zealander, Australian and/or Israeli!]

[Uncle Miltie]

That is the program, and I'm all for it.

Pakistan may go sideways for another decade. I don't see how that domino falls. Jihadis with Nukes do tend to concentrate the mind, so one hopes a strategy will appear in about 18 months.

[swarthyguy]

NUKE MAKKAH and go from there.

Islam won't be omnipotent anymore; makkah will not be sacrosanct...After all, it will be allah's will.

The physical obsession of islami will be decreased if not eliminated. Mecca will be a internal spiritual place, not a destination.

Just a suggestion.

[NYC GOP Chick]

Know why they use the buzz word Zionists now instead of Jews? Because Americans are Zionists too. More and more you will see the shift as the Jihad spreads.

They also use it to (thinly) veil their Jew-hating venom.