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Whitehouse Christmas Card
www.neteffex.com/wh2002a.gif ^ | Dec. 10, 2002 | ricer1

Posted on 12/10/2002 1:11:05 AM PST by ricer1

I received the 2002 Whitehouse Christmas card (postmarked Crawford, Tx.) and wanted to share it with any and all.


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I received the 2002 Whitehouse Christmas card (postmarked Crawford, Tx.) and wanted to share it with any and all. I've scanned the card in and the first page is approx. 500k in size. The second is about 190k.

Image one: front cover

Image two: inside card

I didn't bother to scan the back side, but it states:



"1938 Steinway Piano in the Grand Foyer
The White House 2002

Zhen-Huan Lu

Oil on canvas 40 in x 30 in


Hallmark

1 posted on 12/10/2002 1:11:05 AM PST by ricer1
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To: ricer1
My wife just got a new scanner, and I'm not all that adept with it... I hope these images turn out ok on other people's computers...
2 posted on 12/10/2002 1:14:37 AM PST by ricer1
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To: ricer1
Grand Piano for our Lords Birth? What a joke not even a mention of Christ. GWB is way to concerned what people the PC world thinks.
3 posted on 12/10/2002 1:17:34 AM PST by NY Catholic
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To: NY Catholic
Sorry ment to say. Grand Piano for our Lords Birth? What a joke not even a mention of Christ. GWB is way to concerned what the PC world thinks.
4 posted on 12/10/2002 1:20:13 AM PST by NY Catholic
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To: NY Catholic
This news article attempts to explain the White House "policy" on their Christmas card...
5 posted on 12/10/2002 1:26:58 AM PST by ricer1
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To: ricer1
It saddens my heart that we are taking Christ out of Christmas in the name of tolerance and inclusion. It is true Jesus is hated even in this Country. The more and more I think about GWB is better than Clinton and Gore but by how much?
6 posted on 12/10/2002 1:33:04 AM PST by NY Catholic
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To: ricer1
I ALSO RECEIVED THE WHITE HOUSE CHRISTMAS CARD. I THINK IT SHOW'S THE CLASS OF LAURA BUSH.QUITE DIFFERENT THEN HILLARY CLINTON. I AM SO PROUD OF PRESIDENT & MRS.BUSH, FOR THEIR DIGNITY & HONOR THEY HAVE PUT BACK INTO THE WHITE HOUSE. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL.GRANNIE
7 posted on 12/10/2002 1:39:32 AM PST by memaw
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smaller, quicker version of "front of card"


8 posted on 12/10/2002 1:41:04 AM PST by KneelBeforeZod
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To: NY Catholic; ricer1
The more and more I think about GWB is better than Clinton and Gore but by how much?

Sheesh I guess you are pining for the days of the Hillary condom Christmas tree.

Personally, I think it is a appropriate card, understated and humble, just like the First Family.

9 posted on 12/10/2002 1:41:44 AM PST by Dane
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To: NY Catholic
Do you think Christ would have wanted the people of the United States of America to be intolerant to people of other faiths? How would He have handled those who "hate" Him?
10 posted on 12/10/2002 1:44:31 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: ricer1
Had not noticed the postmark, but the envelope has a real stamp on it. ;-)
11 posted on 12/10/2002 1:53:44 AM PST by katze
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To: ricer1; NY Catholic; BigWaveBetty
I received the 2002 Whitehouse Christmas card (postmarked Crawford, Tx.)

Just out of curiosity, did I miss the word Christmas on the card? Not to be a stickler, but it appears to be a general seasonal card (which would explain why no mention on Christ). If it was a Christmas card that said Xmas I could understand being upset about the lack of a Christ centered card. It appears to be a generic card sent out during a month in which many people celebrate some holiday or other. The interior biblical quote is generic (yet a bold step these days to quote the bible).

You interpreted it as a christmas card, someone else may have saw it as a hannukah card (and it did quote from the OT).

In defense of Bush on this item - he would have to have a very accurate list in order to send out the right cards to the right people, and this covered the bases perfectly while allowing for a biblical quote (OT is recognized by jews, christians, and muslims).

Just my 2 cents.

12 posted on 12/10/2002 1:56:26 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: NY Catholic
Perhaps the piano is for playing Christmas Hymns!
13 posted on 12/10/2002 1:57:47 AM PST by blondee123
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To: Dane
Christmas is the celebration of Jesus Christ's birth..the grand piano and a quote from the old testament does not suffice for this Catholic Christian not when my beliefs are attacked daily. Besides America is 90% Christian. It is a Joke.
14 posted on 12/10/2002 2:01:51 AM PST by NY Catholic
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To: blondee123
Thats funny thanks for cheering me up.
15 posted on 12/10/2002 2:02:21 AM PST by NY Catholic
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To: BigWaveBetty
Christmas is the celebration of Jesus Christ's birth..the grand piano and a quote from the old testament does not suffice for this Catholic Christian not when my beliefs are attacked daily. Besides America is 90% Christian. It is a Joke.


16 posted on 12/10/2002 2:08:00 AM PST by NY Catholic
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To: NY Catholic
I BOYCOT ALL BUSINESS THAT LEAVES CHRIST out of Christmas. I will not buy Christmas cards unless they say Merry Christmas. No Seasons Greetings nor Happy Holidays cards are purchased in my family.Grannie
17 posted on 12/10/2002 2:10:22 AM PST by memaw
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To: NY Catholic
when my beliefs are attacked daily

So I guess that means you are blaming the current administration for this?
(Ask yourself what would Pres. Hillary have sent, the image of a condom on a bent member tree?)

18 posted on 12/10/2002 2:14:12 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: memaw
Mega dittos.
19 posted on 12/10/2002 2:14:23 AM PST by NY Catholic
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To: ricer1
I just got mine, too second year in a row...nice people, the Bush's
20 posted on 12/10/2002 2:17:08 AM PST by The Wizard
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To: ricer1
Very nice. But you have to make the image size (bytes) smaller for the internet. The way post # 8 did. Your 500,000 bytes versus 30,000 bytes.

Photo Shop type programs can do this.
21 posted on 12/10/2002 2:20:51 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Las Vegas Dave
All I am saying is Jesus Christ is the reason for Christmas, which is a celebration of his birth and there is no mention of it on the "Holiday Card" which I find offensive.
22 posted on 12/10/2002 2:21:08 AM PST by NY Catholic
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To: memaw
DITTOS! I will not buy Christmas cards unless they say Merry Christmas.

This past weekend I purchased Christmas postage stamps and he handed me SNOWMEN stamps!!!!
I asked , "Do you have any with a religious theme?"
He did, and I bought them, they are beautiful!

23 posted on 12/10/2002 2:22:23 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: The Wizard
I did not get my card,and Im dissapointed. I also want one of those year end letters that fill me in on what Laura and W did all year and how the kids are etc.
24 posted on 12/10/2002 2:27:30 AM PST by woofie
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To: Las Vegas Dave
I will not buy a card unless it clearly says "Card" on it ....These new cards that are not really cards are too confusing
25 posted on 12/10/2002 2:30:03 AM PST by woofie
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To: NY Catholic
Besides America is 90% Christian.

I envision Christ shaking his head in frustration that you and people like you of all faiths cannot come together at this Holy time and be tolerant of one another.

My sister is a Christian and she thinks that Catholics are Satan's religion. How crazy is that?! She's just as sure about that as you are sure that your Christianity is being mocked by this card sent by our President to wish Americans love and peace.

Instead of nick picking what we dislike about this or that pettiness, let's love each other like Christ intended us to do.

26 posted on 12/10/2002 2:32:48 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: ricer1
Thank you for posting this!
27 posted on 12/10/2002 2:38:15 AM PST by Aracelis
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To: ricer1
How did you get on the list?

Who do you know?
28 posted on 12/10/2002 2:40:52 AM PST by WhiteGuy
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To: BigWaveBetty
What have I said that is in tolerant? If it were not for Christ...none of the other religions/holidays would even be celebrated. They all felt attacked and wanted equal standing in the name of tolerance/fairness at the expense of Christ. That is all I am saying...it is so bad that people feel like they can not even say Merry Christmas anymore...that is SAD.
29 posted on 12/10/2002 2:48:28 AM PST by NY Catholic
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To: NY Catholic
I don't think it is sad that anyone, including the president, be respectful when sending greetings. Were he sending a personal card to YOU, NYCatholic, knowing your faith, then perhaps he would have selected one with a nativity scene on it. But he is sending greetings to people, whose faith he does not know. This is a nice expression of holiday greeting, tasteful and refined unlike that which the previous occupants of the WH might have sent.

When i send to my Christmas list, i send the nativity scene ones to the nuns at my kids Catholic school and others that share MY faith. But i have friends of all religions, and i will send the snowman ones to them, because they do not celebrate my holiday. Christmas cards are an expression of friendship and love to those around us. Christ would approve of that sentiment, don't you think?

30 posted on 12/10/2002 2:55:14 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: NY Catholic
and by the way, i DO agree with your sentiment that it is sad that people can't say Merry Christmas anymore. My kids go to Catholic school for precisely that reason, so that they may discuss their faith and celebrate the religious holidays. in the DC area, the public schools are PC to a fault.
31 posted on 12/10/2002 2:57:21 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: BigWaveBetty
Instead of nick picking what we dislike about this or that pettiness, let's love each other like Christ intended us to do.

It seems a sad impossibility. So many religions speaking about "peace" and "love", yet those very qualities are painfully absent from each when it comes to interfaith tolerance...especially at holiday times.

If God exists, he evidently loves diversity (think of all the different cultures and civilizations that have or do exist). Why then would he not approve of the many "flavors" of believers?

32 posted on 12/10/2002 2:58:49 AM PST by Aracelis
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To: WhiteGuy
I received one also. I don't know if you just have to be a registered Repuplican or have contributed money. I sent the RNC $25 last summer and have gotten the Christmas card and an autographed picture of President Bush.
33 posted on 12/10/2002 3:00:48 AM PST by Conservative Kay
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To: memaw
I also think it is a lovely card; I was pleased to receive it. We've come a long way with that old house even the Clinton's couldn't destroy it though lord knows they tried!
34 posted on 12/10/2002 3:01:43 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe
I received one as well. I am not sure if it was because I contributed. I also sent George and Laura our family Christmas Card last year with our crazy family newsletter where we all talk about favorite movie, vegetable, and other family events. I was proud to get it. I also think they got the cards out early this year because George will be busy later in the month.
35 posted on 12/10/2002 3:10:34 AM PST by TheExploited
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To: NY Catholic
You imply intolerance by expecting GWB to send out cards stating Merry Christmas, when in fact there are many in this nation who don't believe in Jesus Christ.

Just for you and other fussbudgets he should employ a staff to send appropriate cards to each of the various religions?

And you're positive that other religions wanted tolerance/fairness at the expense of Christ? Sure, they are always a few nutballs like my sister but I believe in the basic goodness of people in this world. Those people who just want to celebrate their Holy Days and not have them ignored, mocked or misunderstood.

I never have a problem with saying Merry Christmas because I don't allow political correctness to rule my feelings. And hey, if I offend someone, oh well. I certainly don't do it out of malice. If someone one wishes me a Happy Hanukkah or Kwanzaa I thank them with a smile and let them know I'm a Christian graciously.

36 posted on 12/10/2002 3:26:57 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: ricer1
I guess Bush takes his past remarks about representing all Americans seriously on this Holiday Season. God Bless him.
37 posted on 12/10/2002 3:35:53 AM PST by not-an-ostrich
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To: Conservative Kay
Same here. The card is up on our mantle.
38 posted on 12/10/2002 3:42:50 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: The Wizard
I think the card is beautiful....I wish I had one....sigh!
39 posted on 12/10/2002 3:53:02 AM PST by mystery-ak
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
This a “safe” Holiday card.

The media would have loved a manger scene though.

They would have a feeding frenzy!

40 posted on 12/10/2002 3:56:09 AM PST by johnny7
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To: BigWaveBetty
You have hit the nail on the head...there are many who do not believe in Jesus Christ. The number is growing and the Whitehouse "Christmas" card an example of it, albeit a small example. Jesus Christ is under attack from a sly dog called PC tolerance propogated by the Dems and the ACLU.
41 posted on 12/10/2002 4:02:41 AM PST by NY Catholic
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To: ricer1
A lot of people have criticized this card because Christ is absent, but I'm not so sure. The inside of the card says, "The Lord is good," probably replacing the Tetragrammaton with Lord. Now, to (most) Trinitarians and Modalists who make up the vast majority of practicing Christians, Jesus is the Lord. So believers should see Christ in there, very clearly. "A rose by any other name," and all that. Arians would say that Jesus is not "the Lord," but the Church worked very hard to get rid of them some centuries back.
42 posted on 12/10/2002 4:10:12 AM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: NY Catholic
Did you know that last year President and Mrs. Bush were the FIRST presidential couple to put ANY scriptural reference on their card at all? The 1995 Clinton Christmas card had a picture of the Dynamic Duo cheesily grinning in front of a Christmas tree. No scripture. I suppose you would like that one BETTER because it had a CHRISTMAS tree.

Here is what President Bush said at the CHRISTMAS Tree lighting:

"For over two millenia, Christmas has carried the message that God is with us," the president said. "And because He's with us, we can always live in hope."

Now, please find something else to carp about. It seems to me that you are one of those glass half-empty people.

43 posted on 12/10/2002 4:13:16 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: NY Catholic
why don't we just abolish Christmas and call it the winter festival? wouldn't that be the PC thing to do? Christmas is the Lord's birthday and that is why we are celebrating. Political correctness is going to ruin this nation.
44 posted on 12/10/2002 4:17:07 AM PST by flattaxboy
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To: Miss Marple
Did you know that last year President and Mrs. Bush were the FIRST presidential couple to put ANY scriptural reference on their card at all? The 1995 Clinton Christmas card had a picture of the Dynamic Duo cheesily grinning in front of a Christmas tree. No scripture. I suppose you would like that one BETTER because it had a CHRISTMAS tree

thanks for posting this, i was wondering about that. i was pleasantly shocked and surprised to see the scriptural reference on this card and then astounded to read the criticisms on this thread of it not being ENOUGH! can you IMAGINE a christmas card with a scripture verse on it from the satanic duo?

45 posted on 12/10/2002 4:19:57 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: NY Catholic
And it would be a joke to actually believe that 90% of Americans are Christians!
46 posted on 12/10/2002 4:22:23 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: NY Catholic
Well, I understand your criticism, but we are a republic and not a theocracy. The president recognizes that fact and acts accordingly. We all know he is a man of God so there's no need for him to be boastful about it. "Man looks at the outer being, but God looks at the heart." Merry CHRISTmas!
47 posted on 12/10/2002 4:23:07 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: anniegetyourgun
Agreed.
48 posted on 12/10/2002 4:23:36 AM PST by NY Catholic
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To: rabidralph
I hear you ..thanks
49 posted on 12/10/2002 4:28:58 AM PST by NY Catholic
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To: NY Catholic
It saddens my heart that we are taking Christ out of Christmas in the name of tolerance and inclusion.

"Tolerance and Inclusion" are only thinly disguised excuses for the elimination of Christianity from the U.S.

A morally weak Congress has gone along with those who have established "Secular Humanism" ( a nicer name for Paganism ) as the official religion of the United States. Christmas is being morphed into "Winter Holiday" and Easter into "Spring Festival." New holidays such as "Earth Day" are arising to take their place.

50 posted on 12/10/2002 4:36:01 AM PST by bimbo
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