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Posted on 12/10/2002 1:11:05 AM PST by ricer1

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To: ricer1
It's not a Christmas card. Christmas isn't mentioned.
51 posted on 12/10/2002 4:36:37 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: All
A very Blessed and Merry to Christmas to all of you.
52 posted on 12/10/2002 4:36:39 AM PST by Neets
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To: NY Catholic
George W Bush is the president of all Americans, not just Christian Americans.

I am a Christian, and I find the card in very good taste. It's simple, understated, and has a lovely scripture.

I am sorry that George W didn't have enough time to run down to Hallmark and find just the perfect little card for you, but he found the perfect card for all Americans. So don't act so meshuga, it's got me plotzing and verklepmt.
53 posted on 12/10/2002 4:38:20 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: BigWaveBetty
You imply intolerance by expecting GWB to send out cards stating Merry Christmas, when in fact there are many in this nation who don't believe in Jesus Christ.

There are many who don't believe Islam is the religion of peace but that doesn't stop him from saying it. It is Christmas. There is no other way to describe it even if you don't celebrate it. Christmas is no longer simply a religious holiday. Even atheists celebrate Christmas.

54 posted on 12/10/2002 4:40:06 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: johnny7
I would have liked a more Christmas like card but I do remember that President Bush is the leader of all Americans. His predecessor was the liberal Democrat's President so we still have to be aware that it's not just "our turn" as much as we hate to admit it.
55 posted on 12/10/2002 4:40:49 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Neets
Merry Christmas!!
56 posted on 12/10/2002 4:40:56 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: ricer1
Although the card did not mention Christmas, it did have a line from scripture.

Psalm 100:5.

"For the Lord is Good; His Mercy is Everlasting;

And His Truth Endureth To All Generations."

In my eyes that is a true Christmas message.

57 posted on 12/10/2002 4:41:34 AM PST by mware
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
A simple card saying Merry Christmas, Happy Hannakuh and Happy New Year would have been fine. The racists celebrate Festum but that doesn't mean GW has to acknowledge it. Everyone knows it is Christmas in America just like everyone knows Oct 31 is Halloween. Ignoring it is petty and pandering to fringe groups.
58 posted on 12/10/2002 4:43:18 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
So the all knowing and all seeing president is supposed to know who is Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddist, Wiccan, Kwanza, Atheist, and send each the appropriate card?

It's a card, a simple, elegant card. Not for one moment did I get all in a huff when I opened my card and say " oh well, this is not for Christmas. This is an outrage and an affront to Christ and all humanity."

Because you know, in the big scheme of life, it's not all about YOU.
59 posted on 12/10/2002 4:48:39 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: AppyPappy
Oh yeah, Merry Christmas to you and your family.
60 posted on 12/10/2002 4:49:07 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: memaw
Amen
61 posted on 12/10/2002 4:50:34 AM PST by DooDahhhh
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To: ricer1
Front Cover: A 1938 Steinway piano and a shiny floor.

Very Christmasy indeed ;-)

62 posted on 12/10/2002 4:54:44 AM PST by varon
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To: The Wizard
Same here.....thank God the grownups are in charge now..:)
63 posted on 12/10/2002 4:58:00 AM PST by smiley
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To: ricer1
I got one. :) It's a beautiful card with a lovely psalm inside. I consider it an honor to get this card, and I'm thankful President Bush won back the Senate.
64 posted on 12/10/2002 4:59:29 AM PST by veronica
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To: NY Catholic
This type card is the same as all businesses send yearly. Apparently you have not worked in an office. We did not pick one with a religious theme - but one that reflects the "spirit" of Christmas. Just look at the Christmas cards a corporation sends to it customers - they are not religous just beautiful cards.

Looks like you just want to again find something to whine about. Now - my religion does not celebrate Christmas in the religious tone BECAUSE we are not given the date of Christ's birth and therefore Christmas Day is not the day Christ was born. Yet, we definitely believe in Jesus and honor Him as our saviour.

Looks like you want the President to create havoc with a Christmas card. Just how does a Christmas card NOT mentioning Jesus but giving wishes for the holidays mean that the White House is anti-Jesus?

Get a life!!!
65 posted on 12/10/2002 5:00:17 AM PST by ClancyJ
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
He doesn't have to know. Christmas is typically American. If someone doesn't celebrate it, they just need to blip over it. The whole country is celebrating Christmas. Just ask any retailer. Watch TV. Read the newspaper. It's Christmas.

He tried not to offend and he offended. That's what happens when you are wishy-washy.

66 posted on 12/10/2002 5:01:14 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: NY Catholic
90% Christian? CINOs maybe.
67 posted on 12/10/2002 5:01:57 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: ClancyJ
You imply intolerance by expecting GWB to send out cards stating Merry Christmas, when in fact there are many in this nation who don't believe in Jesus Christ.

He DID wreak havoc with a "holiday" card.

Get a life!!!

Get a Christmas!!!

68 posted on 12/10/2002 5:03:44 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
I have the feeling that Christ would be much more tolerant of his White House Christmas card than many people on this forum.

Oh, by the way, as far as Christmas being typically American, does that mean that Jesus was born in Nebraska?
69 posted on 12/10/2002 5:05:00 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: AppyPappy
wreak havoc

surely you are joking? there can't be more than a few crybabies upset over this perceived outrage. My goodness, are we so hard up for things to be upset about now that THIS is a slight?

70 posted on 12/10/2002 5:06:31 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: AppyPappy
He did not offend.

Looks like you, too, are playing the "PC" game.

So, you do not accept any cards in your house as a Christmas wish unless they mention Jesus, Christmas, have a tree or somethin? Do you contact the sender and complain as you have here? They would be thrilled to take you off their card list I feel sure.

71 posted on 12/10/2002 5:06:51 AM PST by ClancyJ
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs; AppyPappy
Here is the "official" 1995 card with a swell Christmas tree. It made me feel ever-so-much-more Christmasy, you know:

Here is their 1992 Card, again with a Christmas tree, so we know that they are really Christians:

Neither greeting has a scripture quote, because of course, as I stated earlier, President and Mrs. Bush were the FIRST to put a scriptural quote on their card. However, that doesn't count, because, after all, they don't have a CHRISTMAS tree on their card.

Some people no doubt would like "Bah, humbug!" on the card, since that is apparently their mind-set.

72 posted on 12/10/2002 5:09:09 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
I do not presume to guess what God thinks. But he said "If you deny me, I will deny you".

Christmas is not just a religious holiday. I celebrated it when I was an atheist.

73 posted on 12/10/2002 5:09:26 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: ricer1
I got one too and I like it--whiners should get a life!!
74 posted on 12/10/2002 5:11:35 AM PST by cerberus
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To: ClancyJ
Plenty of people are/will be offended by Bush ignoring the obvious Christmas holiday in favor of McHolidays.

We are mostly offended because the President decided to "play it safe". He went out of his way to avoid using the word "Christmas". More PC foolishness.

75 posted on 12/10/2002 5:12:46 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: NY Catholic
Christmas is the celebration of Jesus Christ's birth..the grand piano and a quote from the old testament does not suffice for this Catholic Christian not when my beliefs are attacked daily.

Would it comfort you that this is what the President said at the lighting of the National Tree televised nationally:

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. With the lighting of the National Christmas Tree, we observe one of the great traditions of our nation's capital. And throughout the Christmas season, we recall that God's love is found in humble places, and God's peace is offered to all of us. Laura and I are pleased to be with you at this Christmas Pageant of Peace, and we thank you all for coming as well.

I want to thank Barbara for hosting this event. (Applause.) I want to thank all the entertainers for making the night such a special evening. Thank you all for coming. (Applause.) I want to thank Peter and the board of directors and the production team for organizing this fine event. I appreciate Santa coming. (Laughter.) Looks like he needs a belt for Christmas. (Laughter.) Finally, I want to thank all the good people of the National Park Service. (Applause.) The National Christmas Tree is a living tree and the Park Service looks after it every single day of the year.

For nearly 80 years, in times of calm and in times of challenge, Americans have gathered for this ceremony. The simple story we remember during this season speaks to every generation. It is the story of a quiet birth in a little town, on the margins of an indifferent empire. Yet that single event set the direction of history and still changes millions of lives. For over two millennia, Christmas has carried the message that God is with us -- and, because He's with us, we can always live in hope.

In this season, we celebrate with our families -- and deeply miss family members no longer with us. Thousands of families in our nation are still grieving over the terrible losses that came to them last year on September the 11th. We pray for their comfort. We pray for the comfort for everyone who has lost a life this year.

Our entire nation is also thinking at this time of year of the men and women in the military, many of whom will spend this Christmas at posts far from home. They stand between Americans and grave danger. They serve in the cause of peace and freedom. They wear the uniform proudly and we are proud of them. (Applause.)

Laura and I wish every American family the blessings of this season, happy holidays, and a merry Christmas. And now we have the honor of lighting the National Christmas Tree. And joining us we've got two new friends, Samara Banks and Ben Schneller, to help us light this tree.

Now, if everybody -- you all step up here -- (laughter) -- get ready -- please join us in the countdown: Five, four, three, two, one. (Applause.)


76 posted on 12/10/2002 5:14:38 AM PST by Carolina
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To: AppyPappy
OK. Now you are starting to tick me off.

Go up and look at the cards the Clintons sent. Does their card mean they are proclaiming Christ to the world? No.

Did you even GET a card from the White House? I did, and mine is at the framers, because I am THRILLED that we have a president who quotes scripture in his card, and lives his faith.

You can dwell on the beauty and religiousness of those White House Christmas cards from the Clinton years.

Feh.

77 posted on 12/10/2002 5:14:39 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
See, even rats like the Clintons knew it was Christmas. Bush thinks it's ChristRamadaHannaZa.
78 posted on 12/10/2002 5:14:46 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
President Bush is the leader of all Americans.

This sums it up. Avoid the PC flak and just put out something tastefull.

Sure, I would have liked a card with Jesus, Mary, Joseph and the Wise Men... but sometimes, you gotta' bite the bullet.

79 posted on 12/10/2002 5:16:18 AM PST by johnny7
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To: AppyPappy
Did you GET a White House Christmas card?

I doubt it.

80 posted on 12/10/2002 5:16:30 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: AppyPappy
God did not set up Christmas - man did. It is a holiday that was set up by those who wanted to honor the day of Jesus birth. Yet, we do not know the date of Jesus' birth so it is only a symbolic date picked by man. Therefore, I doubt God thinks any are offending Him if they do not honor this man-picked symbolic date as the birth of Jesus. Apparently it offends you and you have never run into anyone that did not join in your celebration of this honorary birthdate of Jesus. If they do not join in with your celebration, you now claim they have dishonored Jesus.

This is how man distorts the directions of God. There is nothing wrong with celebrating Christmas as Christ's birth and there is nothing wrong with not celebrating the date as his birthdate but instead celebrating the "spirit" of the Christmas season.
81 posted on 12/10/2002 5:17:23 AM PST by ClancyJ
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To: Carolina
Thanks
82 posted on 12/10/2002 5:18:05 AM PST by NY Catholic
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To: AppyPappy
This was Calvin Coolidge's White House Christmas card:


83 posted on 12/10/2002 5:18:49 AM PST by Carolina
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To: xsmommy
My goodness, are we so hard up for things to be upset about now that THIS is a slight?

Fish gotta swim, whiners gotta whine.....

84 posted on 12/10/2002 5:18:54 AM PST by hobbes1
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To: Miss Marple
It's Christmas. You know, Santa, mistletoe, HoHoHo and presents for pretty girls. Go to the Walmart and see. It's Christmas. Go downtown and look at the lights. It's Christmas. Look at the specials on TV. It's Dickens, it's Bells of St Mary's, It's A Wonderful Life. It's Christmas. George Bailey doesn't run down the street yelling "Happy Holidays". It's not "Holidays". It's Christmas.

I think all you folks need a visit from Captain Obvious.

85 posted on 12/10/2002 5:19:22 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Looks like it.
86 posted on 12/10/2002 5:20:03 AM PST by NY Catholic
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To: Miss Marple
Did you GET a White House Christmas card?

No and neither did anyone else. They got a "Holiday" Card.

Checkmate

87 posted on 12/10/2002 5:20:31 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
This was Eisenhower's 1955 Christmas card:


88 posted on 12/10/2002 5:21:17 AM PST by Carolina
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To: hobbes1
It is better than a PIANO...YIKES
89 posted on 12/10/2002 5:22:42 AM PST by NY Catholic
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To: AppyPappy
This was Nixon's 1971 Christmas card:


90 posted on 12/10/2002 5:23:41 AM PST by Carolina
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To: NY Catholic
Sorry meant to post to Eisenhower and Coolidge's Christams card..they are better than a PIANO...
91 posted on 12/10/2002 5:25:30 AM PST by NY Catholic
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Well and who's to say that every Republican or recipient of that card is a Christian?

Every year, I hear people complain that we as a society have lost the true meaning of Christmas. However true that may be, the true meaning of Christmas should be held in your heart, mind, and actions toward others. Complaining about a card, when the world knows that the President is a Christian, is just wasted energy.

92 posted on 12/10/2002 5:25:51 AM PST by rintense
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To: NY Catholic
This was Carter's 1978 Christmas card:

Inscribed: "With best wishes from our family for a happy holiday season."

93 posted on 12/10/2002 5:26:25 AM PST by Carolina
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To: ricer1
On the sideboard behind the piano, quietly and unobtrusively, stands a vase of Christmas Poinsettas - Poinsettas have a native Mexican origin, and are called 'the flower of the blessed night" because the shape is thought to resemble the Star of Bethlehem.

Well done, sir and madam, well done.

94 posted on 12/10/2002 5:27:48 AM PST by Ol' Sox
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To: AppyPappy
OK. Did you get a Card from the White House, Mr. Scrooge?
95 posted on 12/10/2002 5:28:58 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Las Vegas Dave
I also purchased postage stamps with relegious theme. I agree with you they are beautiful. I do not buy stamps unless thry have the relegious theme or the American flag. They know me at the post office, when they see me coming they know what I want!!Memaw
96 posted on 12/10/2002 5:29:24 AM PST by memaw
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To: ricer1
Thanks for sharing that special card!

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and yours and to all Freepers Everywhere!

97 posted on 12/10/2002 5:31:00 AM PST by Redleg Duke
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To: ricer1
No matter what take you folks may have on this, I am very proud of my neighbor, Zhen-Huan Lu, who lives right down the street here in Kennesaw, GA.
98 posted on 12/10/2002 5:31:27 AM PST by Crawdad
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To: NY Catholic
Please consider cleaning out your "own house" before criticizing the "White House".

I personally think that the President and Mrs. Bush are doing a fine job restoring morality and dignity to a formerly stained place.

Can we be greatful for what we have, please?

99 posted on 12/10/2002 5:33:09 AM PST by Redleg Duke
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To: AppyPappy
It's Christmas. You know, Santa, mistletoe, HoHoHo and presents for pretty girls. Go to the Walmart and see. It's Christmas. Go downtown and look at the lights. It's Christmas. Look at the specials on TV.

Hmmmm...Christmas, yes, but somehgow allyour examples seem to point to a man centered rank materialistc view of the Holy day.

However, according to the White House....

The effort is as much about not offending as about including.
(You, know, that whole No room at the Inn deal ????)
The Bushes' holiday card includes a verse from the 100th Psalm praising God: "For the Lord is good; his mercy is everlasting and his truth endureth to all generations."
As usual, a large creche of 18th century Italian terra cotta and carved wood figures fills an East Room alcove. The only obvious religious symbol among the White House's gilded red-and-gold holiday decor, the creche depicts the manger scene at Jesus' birth.
(You know, that whole "No room at the Inn" thing....)
Formal party invitations ask guests to a "Christmas reception."

My little visit from Captain Obvious tell me that many here are no different than the cry baby minorities that mourn the passing of affirmative action every time a dem loses a seat....

100 posted on 12/10/2002 5:33:21 AM PST by hobbes1
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