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Horrors of stoning captured on film
Washington Times ^
| 12-09-02
| Arnold Beichman
Posted on 12/10/2002 5:14:56 AM PST by SJackson
Edited on 07/12/2004 3:59:34 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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In my snug little apartment on the Stanford University campus I have just watched on my TV screen 15 minutes of pure horror: the lashing and stoning ordered by Iranian judges of two Iranian men for committing so-called crimes.
The 15-minute film I viewed is an old one, shot outdoors in broad, sunny daylight in 1991 and very amateurish. But all is clear, much too clear for queasy stomachs. It was smuggled out only recently by agents of the National Council of Resistance of Iran.
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To: American For Life
Of interest:
Capital Punishment The policy around the world varies at present. By the early twentieth century, capital punishment had been abolished in Italy, Holland, most of the cantons of Switzerland, Belgium, Portugal, and Rumania, and in the States of Michigan, Rhode Island, Wisconsin, Iowa, and Maine. It had fallen into practical disuse in Finland and Prussia. It was retained in Russia only for treason and military insubordination. The State of Colorado abolished it in 1897, but as the result of a lynching outbreak in 1900 it was restored in 1901. The death penalty was publicly inflicted by the guillotine in France, Belgium, Denmark, Hanover, and two cantons of Switzerland. Criminals were executed privately by the guillotine in Bavaria, Saxony, and in two cantons of Switzerland. Execution upon the gallows was in vogue in Austria and Portugal. Hanging was conducted privately in Great Britain and in most of the states of the Federal Union. In America, the states of New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Ohio, North Carolina, and Virginia were among the first to execute criminals by electricity. In fifteen cantons of Switzerland criminals condemned to death were publicly beheaded; in Prussia they were privately beheaded. In Ecuador, and in the Grand Duchy of Oldenburg, they were shot. In Spain they were publicly executed by means of an instrument called the garrotte. In China they were strangled in public with a cord. In Brunswick they were beheaded. |
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posted on
12/10/2002 6:12:08 AM PST
by
Deep_6
To: Deep_6
USA Executions
Dunklin County:
The tension increased as 8:00 a.m. approached. Kennett Street was lined from Julius Kohn's Department Store to Second Street. Glen Brogden was just fifteen at the time. He said, "I didn't leave the store but watched as all the stores, shops and roof tops on the south side of the square filled with the curious. Many of the owners were fearful their roofs would collapse. It was impossible for them to see a full block away but no matter, they could always say they were "there."From my vantage point it was only possible to see the top of the scaffold over the newly erected 10 foot board fence. When they brought out Adams we could only see the top of his head. I watched as a hood and rope were placed over his head and seconds later he disappeared.
http://www.missourinet.com/capitalpunishment/Fred_Adams.htm |
Oklahoma
Oklahoma has executed a total of 132 men and 3 women between 1915 and 2002 at the Oklahoma State Penitentiary. Eighty-two were executed by electrocution, one by hanging (a federal prisoner) and 52 by lethal injection. The last execution by electrocution took place in 1966.The first execution by lethal injection in Oklahoma occurred on September 10, 1990, when Charles Troy Coleman, convicted in 1979 of Murder 1st Degree in Muskogee County was executed.
http://www.doc.state.ok.us/DOCS/CapitalP.HTM#Execution%20Process |
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posted on
12/10/2002 6:25:31 AM PST
by
Deep_6
To: Deep_6
Is this part of your Christmas card?
Comment #24 Removed by Moderator
To: Deep_6
I'm afraid you're the one vending nonsense. If deterrence were our principal reason to execute, we'd execute every felon, not just those who commit Murder I. After all, the more severe the possible penalty, the greater the deterrent effect, right?
We execute only in those cases where one may reasonably conclude -- where twelve presumedly reasonable men have concluded -- that the murderer either:
- planned his crime in cold blood, or:
- exhibited such viciousness in carrying it out as to indicate that he has no conception of the sanctity of life or sympathy for the rights of others.
Either of these conditions indicates that the murderer, even if imprisoned for life without parole, would remain a likely hazard to the lives of others who don't deserve to die. Conversely, a man who, though he has killed, appears to be little or no threat to others need not be executed. Despite the arguments of some that all killers deserve to be executed, that is not the practice in America today.
(An aside: Thomas Sowell and others have demonstrated that the protective effect of execution is the reduction of recidivist murders. Most killings are committed by persons who have killed more than once. By comparison to this, execution's deterrent effect is far weaker, largely owing to the reluctance of judges and juries to impose the death penalty, and the complex webs of reviews and appeals that apply to all capital verdicts.)
There are reasons for the divide between Murder I and all other crimes. You might not like those reasons -- you might think there are better arguments, or arguments that would militate for executing a broader class of offenders -- but they motivated the shaping of the laws as they currently are, and remain the legal and legislative community's dominant thinking on capital punishment at this time.
Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit The Palace Of Reason: http://palaceofreason.com
To: SJackson
Set this video to the 'music' of peace-niks singing "Give Peace a chance"
To: SJackson
In China execution takes the form of a bullet to the back
of the head, with the family subsequently sent a bill for
the cost of the bullet.
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posted on
12/10/2002 6:32:17 AM PST
by
The Duke
Comment #28 Removed by Moderator
To: wimpycat
A case could be made for applying that method of execution that most closely matches the method that the criminal employed in killing his victims - "let the puniahment fit the crime." For example, those who killed their victims by gunshot would face a firing squad, those who used knives would be beheaded, those who strangled their victims would be hanged, those who poisoned would get lethal injection or cyanide gas, etc.
To: SJackson
Islam-The Bridge to the 8th Century
Pray for GW and the Troops
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posted on
12/10/2002 6:39:09 AM PST
by
bray
To: SJackson
The film has been shown to the U.N. Committee of Human Rights, presently under the chairmanship of Libya...Other members of the U.N. Committee of Human Rights include Zimbabwe, Sudan, China and Cuba.No additional comment necessary.
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posted on
12/10/2002 6:39:51 AM PST
by
agrace
To: Bluntpoint
For urinating in public...you'd wake up in a bathtub full of ice ..with a note on your chest that says to Get to the Hospital in a hurry for your kidneys have been removed.
...you probably thought that your tallywhacker would get lopped off.
To: Diverdogz
Could I still write my name in the snow? How about if it is in my my best friend's wife's handwriting?
To: Deep_6
yeah, that's what I thought, this is just another left wing piece to kill the momementum for capital punishment in the United States.
No, not really. Everything is not about the United States.
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posted on
12/10/2002 6:50:54 AM PST
by
job
To: Deep_6
Another repulsive exercise in moral equivalence.
In America someone is executed through painless lethal injection for the crime of murdering another human being in cold blood.
In Iran someone is brutally stoned to death for the crime of speaking up against the regime.
To: SJackson
I met some nice young women from Iran last year when I was volunteering at Tom DeLay's Houston area offices. I asked them if they plan to move back or stay here. They all said they plan to stay here, it is much nicer here. Now I know what they meant. Lovely beautiful conservative young women. Now I see what they left behind, and why. They said they have more opportunity here, they said they would not have been allowed to go to college over there.
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posted on
12/10/2002 7:15:35 AM PST
by
buffyt
To: freeper12
Can we use that on ex-boyfriends.... I guess not, never mind.... LOL
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posted on
12/10/2002 7:16:53 AM PST
by
buffyt
To: SJackson
We had a fellow executed her in Raleigh last Thursday. Due to the power outage from the ice storm, they had to go to back-up emergency generators. The show must go on...
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posted on
12/10/2002 8:47:18 AM PST
by
Hatteras
To: SJackson
The film has been shown to the U.N. Committee of Human Rights, presently under the chairmanship of Libya. LOL!
To: Hatteras
The electric chair for execution idea came out around the time that Edison and his DC generators and Tesla with his AC alternators were both struggling for industry supremecy. Tesla, working with Westinghouse, wanted his method of generating and transmitting electricity to be accepted on its merits. A very nasty Thomas Edison wanted so badly for his DC to dominate decided to make AC look as bad as possible. So Edison got hold of AC equipment, burned and killed animals with it in public view to prove to the public how dangerous, evil, and wicked AC is. This is what led to the idea of using it to kill the condemned. Nontheless, the engineers of the time saw that Tesla's AC was superior, and Westinghouse AC generators were installed at Niagra Falls, and life went on. And we still use electrocution to put down the condemned. BTW who saw "The Green Mile?" I thought it was a great movie.
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posted on
12/10/2002 9:35:27 AM PST
by
Jason_b
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