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Hollywood Appeasers: Another "peace" coalition by a bunch of left-leaning celebs but with a twist
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | December 11, 2002 | Paul Bond

Posted on 12/11/2002 5:05:43 AM PST by SJackson

Actors Mike Farrell, Matt Damon and Martin Sheen do not want the United States to go to war with Iraq.

Therefore, along with 97 other celebrities, they have formed a group called Artists United to Win Without War.

What the public didn't see at their Tuesday press conference is far more significant than the formation of yet another peace coalition by a bunch of left-leaning celebrities like Jessica Lange, Anjelica Huston and Elliott Gould.

What that significant development is, is the healthy dose of skepticism displayed by the mainstream press at Tuesday’s well-covered Hollywood event.

But first, the group’s statement, scheduled to appear soon in select newspapers:

"War talk in Washington is alarming and unnecessary.

"We are patriotic Americans who share the belief that Saddam Hussein cannot be allowed to possess weapons of mass destruction. We support rigorous United Nations weapons inspections to assure Iraq’s effective disarmament.

"However, a preemptive military invasion of Iraq will harm American national interests. Such a war will increase human suffering, arouse animosity toward our country, increase the likelihood of terrorist attacks, damage the economy, and undermine our moral standing in the world. It will make us less, not more, secure.

"We reject the doctrine – a reversal of long-held American tradition – that our country, alone, has the right to launch first-strike attacks.

"The valid U.S. and U.N. objective of disarming Saddam Hussein can be achieved through legal diplomatic means. There is no need for war. Let us instead devote our resources to improving the security and well-being of people here at home and around the world."

Now for the significance.

An NBC reporter immediately set a skeptical tone for the spirited question and answer session, asking group co-chair Farrell if Artists United to Win Without War isn’t made up of celebrities who were also against the Gulf War a decade ago. Wouldn’t the world be an even more dangerous place if Hussein was not ousted from Kuwait and U.N inspectors weren’t brought in to Iraq back then?

The deft former star of M*A*S*H* said he would have preferred it had the elder President Bush explored "options short of war" before expelling Hussein from Kuwait.

Then Sheen was asked by a couple of reporters why it is that President Bush would threaten war against Iraq if Hussein presented little or no threat to the U.S.

"I don’t know if we’ll ever get the whole truth from this administration – about anything," he answered.

Pressed again as to the president’s motives, Sheen attributed them to mere family pride. "I think he’d like to hand his father Saddam Hussein’s head," Sheen said.

Then there was this exchange between a reporter and Sheen:

"Would you like to see Saddam Hussein overthrown?" the reporter asked.

"I don’t know what you mean," Sheen answered.

"Removed from power," said the reporter.

"I don’t even know what that means," Sheen said.

The undaunted reporter pressed on. "Regime change," he explained.

"I’d like to see that come from the Iraqis, not the Americans," Sheen finally conceded.

Not wanting the other reporters to have all the fun, I asked if, assuming our military were to overthrow Hussein quickly and with few casualties, and then Iraqi citizens were shown dancing in the streets and praising America for liberating them from a torturous dictator, would the Artists United to Win Without War rethink their position? Would they consider they might be wrong, and say so publicly?

Sheen offered, "I’m always open to the possibility that I’m wrong."

The bulk of the answer, though, came from Farrell, who made the point that, just because some Iraqis might applaud such a removal of Hussein, doesn’t make it the right thing to do.

"The idea that somehow the end justifies the means, as you’re suggesting, is exactly contrary to the principles on which this country was founded," Farrell said.

"The idea you suggest, forgive me, is an inappropriate one," he scolded.

The best bit of levity came at the close of the hour-long event. It had been suggested by some of the dozen celebrities in attendance that Artists United to Win Without War was nonpartisan.

Asked to name a Republican among the group, Farrell claimed there were some, but quipped, "I don’t want to out them."

In a room full of skeptical reporters who clearly were not there to rubber-stamp Hollywood’s latest political effort, the very revealing joke went over quite well.


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1 posted on 12/11/2002 5:05:43 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Maybe another 99 people with no clue -- but with with some name recognition because they are good at pretending to be someone else -- can get together and call a news conference.
3 posted on 12/11/2002 5:11:39 AM PST by justlurking
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To: JohnnyOla and HymanRoth
left-leaning celebrities like Jessica Lange, Anjelica Huston and Elliott Gould

Yea, leaning is a bad choice. Try off the edge into a Marxist pit...

4 posted on 12/11/2002 5:12:50 AM PST by smith288
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To: SJackson
Non-partisan. Some were Democrats but most were Socialists and a significant minority were Marxists. That's what passes for non partisanship in Hollywood.
5 posted on 12/11/2002 5:12:51 AM PST by Arkie2
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To: SJackson

Actors Mike Farrell, Matt Damon and Martin Sheen ...

6 posted on 12/11/2002 5:14:40 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: SJackson
"The idea that somehow the end justifies the means, as you?re suggesting, is exactly contrary to the principles on which this country was founded," Farrell said.
Um, what? We fought a war for our own independence, Farrell.
7 posted on 12/11/2002 5:15:31 AM PST by Asclepius
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Misidentified. The guys pictured were entertaining.
8 posted on 12/11/2002 5:17:36 AM PST by Cincinatus
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To: JohnnyOla and HymanRoth
These are not left leaning

Not any more. They have quite fallen over.

9 posted on 12/11/2002 5:18:52 AM PST by arthurus
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To: Asclepius
I would like to see the entire list of signers.
10 posted on 12/11/2002 5:19:25 AM PST by grammymoon
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To: SJackson
You have to remember these are actors...they read other people's lines....Im betting someone else(a writer) wrote their opening statement...especially after reading their answers on the Q&A.
11 posted on 12/11/2002 5:20:25 AM PST by mystery-ak
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To: SJackson
How in the hell do 100 people who have no more intellect (most of them less) than I do, get to have their own little grandstand to spout "stuff and nonsense"? Why won't the press ask them one simple question, "Mr. Sheen, Farrell et al, just exactly what is your qualification to make such a pronouncement?" And the the follow-up question. "And just exactly, why should the press and other major media pay attention to such drivel?" I guess it's the old "I'm not a president, but I play one on TV" syndrome.
12 posted on 12/11/2002 5:21:13 AM PST by ladtx
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
How dare you smear the reputation of the fine men shown by associating their pictures with the names of those scum!
13 posted on 12/11/2002 5:21:17 AM PST by Arkie2
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To: SJackson
Why doesn't someone ask the question..."If there were no threat of war, do you really think there would be arms inspectors in Iraq right now?"

or..."The UN had 10 years to disarm Iraq peacefully, if Iraq is shown to have WMD, wouldn't appear that the diplomatic approach failed?"

14 posted on 12/11/2002 5:21:38 AM PST by NeonKnight
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I can't believe you just insulted the 3 Stooges like that. That was totally uncalled for. Nyuk-nyuk.
15 posted on 12/11/2002 5:23:16 AM PST by ladtx
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To: Asclepius
Hold the phone, there. Farrell knows a few things about war: he was a *MASH* cast member.

This qualifies. Sally Field testified before con-gress because she played a farm wife.

16 posted on 12/11/2002 5:24:35 AM PST by banjo joe
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To: SJackson
share the belief that Saddam Hussein cannot be allowed to possess weapons of mass destruction.

And, after the inspectors fail, and you try stern language.....WHAT THEN? Have you even THOUGHT that far ahead?

17 posted on 12/11/2002 5:30:17 AM PST by Puppage
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Alouette; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
18 posted on 12/11/2002 5:33:23 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
All I have to see is Howard Zinn, Studs Terkel, and a few other arch-commies on the list to know that many of these vacuous celebs are just dupes of the extreme left.
19 posted on 12/11/2002 5:35:52 AM PST by driftless
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To: ladtx
Well said porcupine!
20 posted on 12/11/2002 5:37:37 AM PST by driftless
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To: SJackson
The deft former star of M*A*S*H* said he would have preferred it had the elder President Bush explored "options short of war" before expelling Hussein from Kuwait.

Now I understand how he got the name BJ.

21 posted on 12/11/2002 5:55:22 AM PST by TroutStalker
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To: SJackson
So, these "celebs" are willing to risk my safety and the safety of my grandchildren to no force - just talk?

Just what if they are wrong and Saddam has chemical weapons he could easily move into the U.S.?

Just what if they are wrong and Saddam thinks "Great! I can continue "talk" while I provide chemical/biological/nuclear to terrorists who can move it to the U.S. We are going to take down America."

Just what if "talk" is not effective against those that hate us and want our wealth? Are we willing to risk our freedom to the likes of this group?
22 posted on 12/11/2002 5:56:42 AM PST by ClancyJ
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To: grammymoon
I would like to see the entire list of signers.

Ditto

23 posted on 12/11/2002 5:58:13 AM PST by Snowy
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To: JohnnyOla and HymanRoth
These are not left leaning. They are more Marxist leaning.

Thank you!

(...and if you want to get real fussy about it, they are most accurately described as 'hard core, unrepentant neo-Stalinists'.)

24 posted on 12/11/2002 5:59:38 AM PST by martin gibson
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To: SJackson
Doesn't it surprise that Algore's "conservative" media would give these schmucks so much attention?

Mike Farrell? He's doing bad movies on Lifetime for pete's sake!

Martin Sheen? Excuse me but , wasn't it he that referred to our President as a "white knuckled drunk"?

Last night O'Reilly had Janeane Garofalo(last seen in, uh I dunno) and Joe Pantoliano(last seen as the decapitated Ralphie on the Sopranos) on to discuss this petition. Good thing my bathroom is close to my tv. Had I been on a plane I would have been reaching for the barf bag!

Garofalo was actually saying that we should allow weapons inspectors do their job before launching an attack.
What the hell are we doing? Duh! I mean, you can't make this stuff up!

The idiocy of the Hollywood left is sometimes beyond human comprehension.
25 posted on 12/11/2002 6:01:58 AM PST by conservativemusician
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To: SJackson
Thank goodness Mike Farrell was not around in 1776 (although that actually would not be here now.) His position would have been that throwing tea overboard was a pre-emptive act, and there is no way we should strike the British. We must negotiate. Of course, we would be doing it on our knees.
26 posted on 12/11/2002 6:08:03 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: conservativemusician
The idiocy of the Hollywood left is sometimes beyond human comprehension.

Tell me about it. Bleached blondes with their lips and breasts full of silicone--but who at least have the sense to keep their mouths shut about things they don't understand--are actually beginning to earn a few points from me after hearing the "serious" actors speak out.

27 posted on 12/11/2002 6:09:17 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: arthurus
They have leaned so far left,that their heads are know up their a$$.
28 posted on 12/11/2002 6:09:38 AM PST by ohiobushman
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To: SJackson
Screw these idiots.... They are qualified to read scripts and nothing more. I hate to think we support these morons by going to movies and TV.
29 posted on 12/11/2002 6:13:28 AM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: JohnnyOla and HymanRoth
. . . they have formed a group called Artists United to Win Without War.

What a joke. What "art" have these professional fakers ever created? That's the problem with language inflation; once you begin calling the garbage man a "sanitation engineer," he thinks people are actually interested in his opinion.

30 posted on 12/11/2002 6:14:40 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: doug from upland
Thank goodness Mike Farrell was not around in 1776 . . .

Oh, he was. His name was Benedict Arnold.

31 posted on 12/11/2002 6:16:39 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: SJackson
I think all these guys have played this card one too many times. "Weren't you against the Gulf War, too?" is a very telling question. The other day, in New York, Daniel Ellsburg was arrested protesting against the war. I'm sorry, but I've seen this movie and this is where I came in. It's the same clowns every time, they are never on the side of America in anything, and this has been going on for thirty years.

They have some kind of death wish for their own country. That's their problem; I don't need to make it mine. Never mind their arguments about this war or that one... they are always against whatever we're going to do. They have all become tiresome nags. To Hell with them.


32 posted on 12/11/2002 6:18:46 AM PST by Nick Danger
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To: justlurking
These people are too stupid to deserve a response. They may be good actors but are also a bunch of brain dead idiots.
33 posted on 12/11/2002 6:22:38 AM PST by Piquaboy
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To: SJackson
"Artists United to Win Without War"

I can't find a website for these guys. I would love to see a list of the clymers who signed the petition, or whatever they want to call it.

34 posted on 12/11/2002 6:25:38 AM PST by Snowy
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To: SJackson
Stupid sock puppets for the left. They have NO IDEA what's going on in the ME.

They are looking for publicity. I work in Hollywood, I know these types. It's all about a career move.

35 posted on 12/11/2002 6:30:28 AM PST by veronica
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To: grammymoon
Boycott the Morons
The following list of mental midgets would rather see Americans get killed than to let us defend ourselves.

Patronizing this group of pond scum only continues and supports the endless drivel spouting from their pie-holes. We Americans believe in their right to speak their opinions. We also believe that the majority of Americans find their views to be disgusting. Especially when we have our Military men and women willing to die so that these people can maintain their perverse standard of living, and to allow them the right to free speech. Would they rather be under Saddam’s rule?

Mike Farrell, Co-Chair
Robert Greenwald, Co-Chair
Gillian Anderson
Edward Asner
Rene Auberjonois
David Bale
Kim Basinger
Ed Begley, Jr.
Theo Bikel
Barbara Bosson
Jackson Browne
Peter Buck (REM)
Diahann Carroll
Eugene J. Carroll, Jr.,
Rear Adm. U.S. Navy (Ret.)
Kathleen Chalfant
Don Cheadle
Jill Clayburgh
David Clennon
Jack Coleman
Peter Coyote
Lindsay Crouse
Suzanne Cryer
Matt Damon
Dana Daurey
Ambassador Jonathan Dean
(U.S. Rep. to NATO
Warsaw Pact)
Vincent D’Onofrio
David Duchovny
Olympia Dukakis
Charles S. Dutton
Hector Elizondo
Cary Elwes
Shelley Fabares
Mike Farrell
Mia Farrow
Laurence Fishburne
Sean Patrick Flanery Bonnie Franklin
John Fugelsang
Jeananne Garafalo
Larry Gelbart
Melissa Gilbert
Danny Glover
Elliott Gould
Samaria Graham
Robert Greenwald
Robert Guillaume
Paul Haggis
Robert David Hall
Ethan Hawke
Ken Howard
Helen Hunt
Anjelica Huston
LaTanya Richardson Jackson
Samuel L. Jackson
Jane Kaczmarek
Melina Kanakaredes
Casey Kasem
Mimi Kennedy
Jessica Lange
Tea Leoni
Wendie Malick
Camryn Manheim
Marsha Mason
Richard Masur
Dave Matthews
Kent McCord
Robert Duncan McNeill
Mike Mills (REM)
Janel Moloney
Esai Morales
Ed O’Neill
Chris Noth
Peter Onorati
Alexandra Paul Ambassador Edward Peck
(former U.S. Ambassador
to Iraq)
Seth Peterson
CCH Pounder
David Rabe
Alan Rachins
Bonnie Raitt
Carl Reiner
Tim Robbins
Steve Robinson,
Sgt., U.S. Army (Ret.)
Mitch Ryan
Susan Sarandon
Tony Shalhoub
Jack Shanahan,
Vice Adm. U.S. Navy (Ret.)
William Schallert
Martin Sheen
Armin Shimerman
Gloria Steinem
Marcia Strassman
Michael Stipe (REM)
Susan Sullivan
Loretta Swit
Studs Terkel
Lily Tomlin
Blair Underwood
Dennis Weaver
Bradley Whitford
James Whitmore
James Whitmore, Jr.
Alfre Woodard
Noah Wyle
Peter Yarrow
Howard Zinn
Boycott them now! Show the Hollywood Marxists that Americans will no longer tolerate their crap.
36 posted on 12/11/2002 6:30:40 AM PST by MNChestyPuller
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To: JohnnyOla and HymanRoth
Elliott Gould...made any good movies lately ? Any movies ?
37 posted on 12/11/2002 6:30:44 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: conservativemusician
Last night O'Reilly had Janeane Garofalo

She really ticked me off. She's struck me as the typical brainwashed product of a liberal university.

38 posted on 12/11/2002 6:31:00 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: SJackson
Therefore, along with 97 other celebrities, they have formed a group called Artists United to Win Without War.

OK.

Looking for 99 other people to form the new group "Normal People United to Win the War Whatever it takes"...

We can write letters too...

39 posted on 12/11/2002 6:33:12 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: MNChestyPuller
Thanks for the list! I was just searching all over the net to see if it existed. I bow to your superior searching skills...
40 posted on 12/11/2002 6:34:25 AM PST by Snowy
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To: doug from upland
Indeed, the Hollywood dissenters , as well as the intellectuals and journalists of this same mindset are a breed apart.

They are the illicit bastard heirs of Benedict Arnold, but claim to have the patriotic motives of Nathan Hale.

At bottom, it is their personal safety , security , and welfare that is foremost in their motives though they may not realize it.

Selfish ignorant egotistical loudmouths that they are....

41 posted on 12/11/2002 6:35:15 AM PST by prognostigaator
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To: KSCITYBOY
I hate to think we support these morons by going to movies and TV.

We do?
I thought "West Wing" was a bird program on the critter channel, LOL

42 posted on 12/11/2002 6:36:20 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: freeperfromnj
I believe she's NYU. I'm not certain, but it would explain alot!
43 posted on 12/11/2002 6:36:28 AM PST by conservativemusician
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To: MNChestyPuller
Bummer about Don Cheadle and Tony Shalhoub, but they are now on my "don't watch" list, as well. The self-absorption of these preening posers is amazing. What I wouldn't give to witness the results of any of these dopes taking a basic civics, history or current events test. I would put my 14 and 15 year old sons up against any of them.
44 posted on 12/11/2002 6:38:11 AM PST by Zebra
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To: Publius6961
Count me in.

Gee, do ya think we'll get on the news?LOL
45 posted on 12/11/2002 6:39:41 AM PST by conservativemusician
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To: freeperfromnj
O'Reilly's losin' it. As soon as I saw that twit, I turned him off. Who the hell cares what these nincompoops think, and why is O'Reilly putting them on? He must think we're all sitting on the edge of our seats just waiting for him to drag us to the hairdresser's so we can listen to a bunch of cackling hens.
46 posted on 12/11/2002 6:39:58 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: A_perfect_lady
Yep. At least Pam Anderson knows her talent is looking good!
47 posted on 12/11/2002 6:41:17 AM PST by conservativemusician
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To: MNChestyPuller
Thank you for the list.
The usual suspects...

An aggregate IQ of the average Freeper.

48 posted on 12/11/2002 6:41:22 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: ohiobushman
know=now
50 posted on 12/11/2002 6:45:26 AM PST by ohiobushman
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