Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Dixiecrat Platform
The Smoking Gun ^ | August 14, 1948 | The States Rights Democratic Party

Posted on 12/13/2002 5:24:52 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-150151-189 next last
To: Howlin
Wrong, Howlin, it's about giving in to race baiters and Lott retiring from the senate entirely. I sincerely hope I am wrong, I don't think I have ever disagreed with you, but I am adamant about this.
51 posted on 12/13/2002 6:32:49 PM PST by GWfan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: inkling
The Lott case is a defining moment for the Republican Party. So far Bush and the Republican Senate are failing the challenge. I'm ashamed of them.
52 posted on 12/13/2002 6:33:55 PM PST by FreedomFlyer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: GWfan
Hillary puked under my apartment door in 1973!

Didn't need to dig that up - it just kind of rolled off my tongue, but it's all true.

Now, the evil part proving she was already a hardcore kneejerk loathesome Liberal Democrat at that early time - she did not offer to clean it up!

53 posted on 12/13/2002 6:35:01 PM PST by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: GraniteStateConservative
And, oddly enough, Thurmond would have still been a better president than Truman who would have gotten his ass kicked all the way back to Missouri if he ran again in '52.
54 posted on 12/13/2002 6:35:24 PM PST by Chi-townChief
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: GWfan
People change. ... So What? Trent Lott is an adult now.

I know what Trent Lott did one week ago. He intentionally praised a party that's only reason for existence was to retain segregation and keep blacks as second-class citizens.

Trent Lott is a gentleman right now, and a good public servant. Somehow I missed how Lott was a good public servant. Was it when he scuttled impeachment, or caved to every Clinton initiative, or entered a power-sharing agreement with Daschle, or allowed Jeffords to give the Senate to the Dems, or created this useless firestorm which has plunged the Republican Party into damage-control mode and emboldened a moribund Democratic party and Congressional Black Caucus. Why are we blowing years of political capital to save this toupeed mediocrity's hide?

55 posted on 12/13/2002 6:35:59 PM PST by inkling
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: hinckley buzzard
The XIV*th Amendment squelches your desire to have states tell people who they can and cannot marry, since marriage in the US is a matter of civil law regarding life, liberty and property, among other things.

My desire???

56 posted on 12/13/2002 6:36:04 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: GWfan
Oh, yes - almost forgot the worst part of it - I saw her naked! Yes, it was the wee hours of the morning and there she was, Hillary Clinton, (Rodham at the time I think), puking under my door!

Oh the humanity!

57 posted on 12/13/2002 6:36:13 PM PST by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: FreedomFlyer
The Lott case is a defining moment for the Republican Party. So far Bush and the Republican Senate are failing the challenge. I'm ashamed of them.

Amen. I am deeply ashamed of my party tonight.

58 posted on 12/13/2002 6:37:01 PM PST by inkling
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: inkling
Whether or not Lott is a senator is for the state of Mississippi to decide. Whether or not he should represent the entire GOP is for the GOP to decide.

HELLOOOO AND AMEN. Thanks for perfectly explaining the situation and the solution. Lott has now become the official anti-republican sound-byte for the libs. As for conservative supporters, Lott is perceived as an ineffectual Majority Leader, his last stint at that job proved his inability to lead (impeachment, anyone?). To the last group of voters, the ever frustrating moderates, Lott is the sum-total of the next two years of letterman, leno, saturday night live, jennings, rather, brokaw, couric, etc. He should have been dealt with by the republican leadership when the truth of the Senate trial of WJC came out. His time as leader has come and gone. Let Mississippi voters decide his fate as their Senator. He sealed his own fate as Majority Leader last Saturday, as far as I'm concerned.

59 posted on 12/13/2002 6:40:52 PM PST by small voice in the wilderness
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: GWfan
So what you're saying is that if Lott can't be THE leader he'll leave?

You're saying that, even though HE put himself and the party in this position, he expects US to go down with him? To satisfy him?

Gee, I didn't realize Trent Lott was bigger than the Republican agenda.

And don't worry about it: a LOT of people have disagreed with me today.......LOL.

60 posted on 12/13/2002 6:40:56 PM PST by Howlin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: hinckley buzzard
since marriage in the US is a matter of civil law regarding life, liberty and property, among other things.

Do you know where I can find out what sorts of things (facets of life, for lack of a better phrase) are commonly considered to come under the purview of the 14th Amendment.

Thanks.

61 posted on 12/13/2002 6:44:30 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: inkling
If you are going to slander Trent Lott, prove it.

I don't think that the people here are idiots for not agreeing with me, I think that they are idiots because they are blind to that fact that this is just a cheap dem power grab.

Have you forgotten NJ already? Dems had state control in NJ and changed the law so they could run a half dead guy and win, they broke their own law. They have no power now so they have nothing to lose.

If someone slandered me and all of my support was gone, I would retire and make more money somewhere else. Why stay and get called names? Besides, when and where would it end? People can only take so much. He is a human being.

We continue to fry and eat our own.

62 posted on 12/13/2002 6:44:42 PM PST by GWfan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: GWfan
Who cares but you?

Hmmm.... maybe George W. Bush? The Weekly Standard? The National Review? Virginia Postrel? Andrew Sullivan?

63 posted on 12/13/2002 6:46:15 PM PST by xm177e2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: small voice in the wilderness
Just watch SNL tomorrow night. If they don't do a Lott sketch that singes the hairs on Rove's head, I'd die of shock. It'll be brutal and based on an ugly truth our party still doesn't want to come to terms with.
64 posted on 12/13/2002 6:49:42 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]

To: El Gato
The point in this case is separation of powers, not "states rights".

You are correct, of course. I used the term "rights" haphazardly.

65 posted on 12/13/2002 6:51:17 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: Howlin
Howlin, he was a very respected southern gentleman. He wants to remain so. He has been raked over the coals so badly, I don't see how he can recover. I have made dunderheaded statements that I soon regret. I guess I am just seeing his human side. Why stay where is isn't wanted?

On the Dem side, they will keep the pressure cooker going. They have the media to do their dirty work. I think he most certainly would retire all together rather than be continually disgraced. The sad thing is, I think that this is a test run for the dems. Hey, they got Jeffords to switch. They got Lautenburg in. They will just keep pushing and pushing because they really have nothing to lose. They won't stop.

66 posted on 12/13/2002 6:52:27 PM PST by GWfan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: GraniteStateConservative
How can you not care that Lott is a bigot? Can you really say with a straight face that a white Mississippi lawyer (one good enough to eventually end up in the Senate) has no idea what the Dixiecrat Party was about?

I'm afraid you just demonstrated bigotry. :-)

67 posted on 12/13/2002 6:53:35 PM PST by plain talk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: GWfan
You can afford to make dunderhead statements. You're not the leader of the controlling party of the most powerful governing body in the world.

I know all about what "they" do. We need to decide what "we" are "going to do."

68 posted on 12/13/2002 6:56:44 PM PST by Howlin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah
She must have caught a reflection of herself in a window! ;)
69 posted on 12/13/2002 6:59:05 PM PST by GWfan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: Howlin
We need to get over it, IMO. If any change is to be carried out in the GOP leadership, it should be on our time table. If anything happens now, the race baiters will take full credit.
70 posted on 12/13/2002 7:03:45 PM PST by GWfan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 68 | View Replies]

To: Howlin
If I were alive in 1948 I would vote for Strom
71 posted on 12/13/2002 7:07:31 PM PST by RockDoc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 68 | View Replies]

To: hinckley buzzard
Please read the entire post you are responding to before you tell someone to grow up.

What the poster said was "Many people here believe that states have the right to tell people what they can put in their body, even if the Federal government does not. I wonder if those same people would argue that the state does not have the right to tell people whom they can and cannot marry."

I know for a fact, because it has happend to me several time that some of the posters on this board feel the State has the duty to kill my wife and I because we enjoy oral sex.
72 posted on 12/13/2002 7:09:31 PM PST by Karsus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: GWfan
But none of us are the GOP leader on the Senate. Lot is a veteran politician and knew better. Since he knew better, why did he do it? This was only speech #12,500 or so for him.
73 posted on 12/13/2002 7:12:53 PM PST by Karsus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: Trailerpark Badass; hinckley buzzard
Do you know where I can find out what sorts of things (facets of life, for lack of a better phrase) are commonly considered to come under the purview of the 14th Amendment.

Thanks.

Never mind, I found something.

74 posted on 12/13/2002 7:13:20 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: inkling
Why are we blowing years of political capital to save this toupeed mediocrity's hide?

EXACTLY!!!!!! If this were George Bush or Dick Armey or Tom DeLay, it would be worth the fight. But I'll be damned if I am going to watch my party go over the cliff for this POS.

Did ANY of you see E.J. Dionne's op-ed in the Washington Post today? The headline itself says it all:

Party of Lincoln or Lott?

The Republican Party has reached a fork in the road. We have accommodated the Confederate wing for too damn long and it has cost us too much! In this election we made great progress in many states with minority voters, and certainly we are making progress with Jewish voters as the Democrats continue to suck up to the Palestinians and Islamists. But this MORON is going to blow all of right down the toilet.

So Lott says he was speaking "off-the-cuff" at the Thurmond Party. Don't you wonder, then, why he said what he said, and NOT something honoring Thurmond's repudiation of segregation and all the hard work he did to mend fences with and support the black community in South Carolina and arouns the country? By focusing his remarks on the 1948 Dixiecrat campaign, and "all the trouble we've had since," clearly Lott was showing what mattered MOST to him about Thurmond's career!

I've been convinced for years that Lott was a race-bomb waiting to go off on the GOP. If we can get him to resign as Leadr now, we might be able to salvage the situation, especially in light of the President's strong comments. But think about what is going to happen if Lott refuses to step down:

--Every time Lott goes to the White House, President Bush is going to be guilty by association. If Bush so much as shakes Lott's hand in public, there is the picture on the flyer that will be passed out in every inner-city neighborhood on Election Day 2004. The Democrats will make Trent Lott into George Bush's running mate, as surely as Lee Atwater said that the elder Bush would turn Willie Horton into Dukakis' running mate, and did. THIS WILL BE A DISASTER FOR BUSH IN 2004!!!!

--Every time the Senate Republicans attempt any domestic initiatives, the Democrats will have an opening to question whether it is good for blacks.

--Senate Democrats will waste NO time attempting to bring up minimum wage legislation, a new hate crime bill, and various other "civil rights" bills that Lott will be forced to try to kill. The hole will be dug deeper and deeper.

Does ANYONE here really want to live through two years of this crap, and then at the end have a Democrat in the White House and a Democrat-controlled Congress??? Because that is exactly what is going to happen unless we dump Lott! And we must do it NOW!

75 posted on 12/13/2002 7:17:09 PM PST by Dems_R_Losers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: FreedomCalls
Damn, what happend to the GOP?

the budget balanced;
Administration of government must be economical and effective.

Government, as the servant of such a system, should take all needed steps to strengthen and develop public health, to promote scientific research, to provide security for the aged, and to promote a stable economy so that men and women need not fear the loss of their jobs or the threat of economic hardships through no fault of their own.

reduction of the public debt.

Small business, the bulwark of American enterprise, must be encouraged through aggressive anti-monopoly action, elimination of unnecessary controls, protection against discrimination, correction of tax abuses, and limitation of competition by governmental organizations.

76 posted on 12/13/2002 7:17:31 PM PST by Karsus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: Karsus
He is human. He makes mistakes. GW said something the other day like 'we want to put food on the family' instead of we want to put food on the table. Does that mean he wants to start food fights??

Lott should not have said what he said, but he apologized. Why can't people take that at face value?

No I am not the leader of the senate, but what I say does matter to a lot of people every day. Thank the Lord above that if I mis-speak, most will understand and know my character enough to know if something was truly a mistake. Most don't look for hidden meanings.

77 posted on 12/13/2002 7:20:07 PM PST by GWfan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | View Replies]

To: Dems_R_Losers
We have accommodated the Confederate wing for too damn long

My friend if you lose the "confederate wing" then kiss any republican election goodbye.

78 posted on 12/13/2002 7:20:12 PM PST by Texasforever
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 75 | View Replies]

To: Karsus
What you might or might not enjoy is not my interest. Can you just keep it to yourself, you know, pull your zipper up, put both hands up on the keyboard, eyes focused straight ahead to the CRT.

There! That's much better.

79 posted on 12/13/2002 7:20:29 PM PST by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah
No. It proves just how overpowering some of the posters on FR would be if they had any real power. One of the posters who made that comment claims to be a police patrol officer.
80 posted on 12/13/2002 7:32:12 PM PST by Karsus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]

To: GWfan
You don't have to look for hidden meanings. All you have to do is compare what he said to the Dixiecrat platform. This is almost as bad as Clinton's 'is is' comments.
81 posted on 12/13/2002 7:34:54 PM PST by Karsus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: Karsus
Wrong. Trent Lott was 6 or 7 years old in 1948. He was trying to make an old man happy on his 100th birthday. I doubt the dixiecrats even crossed his mind while he was paying homage to Strom. Nice try at demonizing, but I don't buy it.
82 posted on 12/13/2002 7:44:28 PM PST by GWfan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies]

To: Karsus
I checked out the Dixiecrat platform. Section 3 seems to be a rejection of Truman's demand that "subversives" in the Army be identified and put on a "list".

He issued that order in 1947.

In retrospect over 54 years it makes the Dixiecrats look like they were in league with the Commies, doesn't it?

At the same time, when comparing those party platforms, we should never forget that the Democrats ended up nominating an active, practicing racist who had actually taken actions that resulted in the deaths of millions of people who were of a race he simply didn't approve of.

So, whose hands are clean in this?

83 posted on 12/13/2002 7:48:47 PM PST by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies]

To: Karsus
You might want to keep that bad boy out of your bedroom, eh?!

Don't be inviting him in or anything; make sure the Missus understands that too!

84 posted on 12/13/2002 7:49:51 PM PST by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 80 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah
I never said the DEMS hands were clean. I have not posted anything saying anyone hands are clean. A question for you, why doesn't the GOP/RNC point out what the DEMs thought back then?
85 posted on 12/13/2002 7:54:57 PM PST by Karsus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 83 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah
That would not work if he and his kind were in power. They want the right to check peoples home for compliance. And I wish I was kidding, but I am serious.
86 posted on 12/13/2002 7:56:22 PM PST by Karsus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 84 | View Replies]

To: EdJay; billbears; Constitution Day; 4ConservativeJustices
Really, it is past time for OUR party, the true Republican Party, the Grand Old Party of Abraham Lincoln, to give up its latter day Confederate wing.

Sir, that may be the last conservative stronghold for the GOP.

87 posted on 12/13/2002 8:01:30 PM PST by stainlessbanner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: GraniteStateConservative
Could it be that Lott had a few too many drinks at the party?
88 posted on 12/13/2002 8:04:03 PM PST by dalebert
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

Comment #89 Removed by Moderator

Comment #90 Removed by Moderator

To: GraniteStateConservative
What brain? If he had a brain he would not have said it. The first time I heard what he said I thought he was talking about the security problems in this country and 9/11. I do think the feds have usurped states rights and the Constitution is broken. How does anyone know what he was talking about. If I were him I would use the strong points of this document to clear up what I meant and turn it on the Democrats but all Lotts advisors must be as dim as he is. I think Lotts main problem is that he is old school, out of date and out of touch.
91 posted on 12/13/2002 8:13:44 PM PST by dalebert
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Texasforever
For sure. Without the confederate wing what would there be?
92 posted on 12/13/2002 8:38:35 PM PST by dalebert
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 78 | View Replies]

To: mvpel
I support the platform 100%...
93 posted on 12/13/2002 9:24:15 PM PST by CreekerFreeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: GraniteStateConservative
You damn Northerners are all the same...in your opinion the only racial problems existed south of the Mason-Dixon Line and still do. As a southern Conservative, I must say that the War of Northern Aggression was a criminal act.

The social contract (read John Locke) was a two-way street. You enter into the contract; but, you can also dissolve the contract if the participants view the power of the government is not fulfilling its duties or is violating the contract by infringing upon the rights of the the populous.

Southern states were practicing good federalism when they opted to dissolve the contract and live the Union.

What the North and Abraham Lincoln did was pure and simple: They destoryed a civilization and the resultant centuries old plague of poverty and underdevelopment that exists to this day in certain areas of the South, in particular Appalachia.

The only mistake the South made was that they should have freed the slaves first and deported en masse. Lincoln had the same idea...too bad John Wilkes Booth killed him or he'd deported the slaves back to Central America and Africa. We'd have no racial problems in this country, because they would've been here.

But, keep living the fairy tale that you Northerners have no racial problems...I enjoy it.

94 posted on 12/13/2002 9:33:00 PM PST by CreekerFreeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GraniteStateConservative
"All of us who aren't fools know the answer is that it slipped out. It didn't make it any less authentic. He just forgot to close his mouth while his brain was talking."

I've had several Black friends that said there was no way in hell their daughter would be allowed to marry a white man - over their dead body !

Are they bigots?

No they are just old koots that grew up in a different time just like Lott, Strom etc..

Hang out at any old VFW Post in a racially mixed town and they are proud to tell you this and don't believe you if you said it wouldn't matter to you !

Again, are they bigots?

95 posted on 12/13/2002 9:33:28 PM PST by america-rules
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: dalebert
Could it be that Lott had a few too many drinks at the party?

You know...I could've sworn that one of the requirements of being a leader was having the good sense to not get s**t-faced in front of TVG cameras.

96 posted on 12/13/2002 9:35:10 PM PST by Poohbah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 88 | View Replies]

To: GraniteStateConservative
Oh, now he's a retard. That real sensitive...I thought you Yankees were the enlightened ones? RETARD, that's cute.
97 posted on 12/13/2002 9:35:29 PM PST by CreekerFreeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

Comment #98 Removed by Moderator

To: Howlin
Because the man who ran on that old discredited platform turned 100 years old and Lott said something stupid in an effort to make an old man feel good about his long life. Is that a crime?
99 posted on 12/13/2002 9:43:29 PM PST by pgkdan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: pgkdan
Stupidity is not a crime, but the punishment is usually swift, merciless, and beyond appeal.

Trent Lott had PO'd the GOP rank and file long before he opened his damn-fool mouth last week.

And now he just found out what it's like to have gotten rid of your friends over six years.
100 posted on 12/13/2002 9:45:11 PM PST by Poohbah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 99 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-150151-189 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson