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Lott's sin is giving Dems ammo--so he must go
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 12/15/02 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 12/15/2002 6:32:09 AM PST by chiller

December 15, 2002

BY MARK STEYN SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST Advertisement

C'mon over, baby, a whole shakin' o' Lott goin' on. On the face of it, it seems incredible that a mere month after Bush's election triumph, the Beltway should be immersed in a discussion of where the 2002 Republican Party leadership stands on segregation. For this, we have Trent Lott to thank. The incoming Senate majority leader couldn't even wait till he'd come in to start screwing up. Insofar as he has any conservative defenders, the defense is this: Hey, relax, Trent isn't racist, just stupid.

You're telling me. If he were still majority leader in 2004, the NAACP would be running ads with video of Lott's remarks--we're proud of voting for Strom, and, if everybody else had followed our lead in 1948, ''we wouldn't have had all these problems''--followed by footage of black bodies hanging from trees, gallant Southern gentlemen standing around having a whale of a time, Billie Holiday's ''Strange Fruit'' on the soundtrack, etc: ''Trent Lott says, if we'd kept segregation and lynching, we wouldn't have all the uppity Negroes we have today.''

Now maybe that's not what he meant. He was speaking, after all, at some old coot's 100th birthday party. Most 100th birthday parties take place in nursing homes and, if you drop in, you generally find a lot of people standing around the old boy with inane grins, talking very loudly and very slowly and agreeing with everything he says. Maybe that's all Lott was doing, given the unique circumstances of a guy entering his second century as a sitting senator.

But there were cameras present; there was a microphone. Successful politicians are supposed to have a built-in blocking mechanism in such circumstances: The borderline racist gag about the Filipino poolboy rises in your gullet, is within sight of your tongue, but at the last nanosecond your political radar detector spots the C-SPAN crew and sends it back down deep into your bowels. Wild'n'crazy gonzo pols--like John McCain, who regaled a Washington fund-raiser with a Chelsea Clinton/Janet Reno gag dependent for its effect on implied lesbianism and transsexuality--lack these antennae, and that's why they're not ambassador to China.

If the Republicans are going to make a 51-49 Senate work for them, they'll need discipline. When the man who's supposed to enforce that discipline is so undisciplined himself, he needs to go.

Lott made a bad situation worse in his attempt at damage control. His immediate reaction was that he regretted giving the impression that he supported the ''discarded'' policies of the past--''discarded,'' as if racial segregation is like the gold standard or the 55 mph speed limit, one of those things that comes and goes in and out of fashion. He then said he'd meant that back in 1948 ol' Strom had a lot of other good policies: ''Defense was a big issue. We were coming out of the war'' This is the Mississippi version of ''Mussolini made the trains run on time.'' Even if he did, it doesn't make up for the central defining plank of the platform. And, in any case, don't tell me the Dixiecrats bailed because Harry Truman, the nuker of Japan, wasn't tough enough on defense.

Strom led the walkout from the '48 Democratic Convention because a presidential panel had proposed a federal anti-lynching law and the abolition of poll taxes designed to keep blacks from voting. That's it.

Even if he had the best policies ever on defense or NEA funding or federally mandated bicycling helmets, they're just a little sprig of garnish on the segregationist beef. And, as it happens, in those days Strom was a fairly conventional big-government Democrat. That, after all, is what a ''Dixiecrat'' is: a Southern racist Democrat. The GOP candidate that year was Thomas Dewey, a man who lives on only as a headline. If Trent Lott was eager to refight the 1948 election, that's the fellow he should have been talking up. If small government's the issue that wowed Mississippi, those guys should have voted for Dewey, and the headline would have come true. Instead, floundering through another stage of his apology tour the other night, the senator couldn't even remember the name of the Republican.

That's his gift to the Dems. For the best part of two centuries, the Democrats have been the party of race: In the 19th century, they were for slavery; in the 20th, for segregation; in the 21st, for the neo-segregation of ''affirmative action,'' ''hate crimes'' and all the other paraphernalia of the modish trickle-down apartheid determined to make racial categorization a permanent feature of the American landscape. In fairness to the Dems, this evolution represents a significant century-on-century improvement: There's no reason to believe that one day, come the 24th or 25th century, they won't have reached the position that American citizens should be treated as freeborn individuals, rather than as chorus members of their respective identity-group kicklines. That's what the Republican Party stands for: Condi Rice is an effective, black, female National Security Adviser but she holds that position not because of her blackness or her femaleness but her effectiveness; she's better than the white males who were up for the job.

It's pathetic that Jesse (''Hymietown'') Jackson should be huffing and puffing about Lott's outrageous behavior. It's ridiculous that RNC Chairman Marc Racicot has been bullied into a meeting with Al Sharpton: If Lott is unacceptable as Senate majority leader, the race-baiting Rev should be unacceptable anywhere. But that's why principled conservatives have a right to be furious with the senator.

When the NAACP do their ugly dragging ads about Republicans opposing ''hate crimes'' legislation, they're right to this extent: Most Republicans do oppose ''hate crimes'' legislation, and for very good reasons. And when Al Gore taunts George W. Bush about ''affirmative action,'' it's legitimate to this extent: Most Republicans regard racial quotas as an obnoxious and un-American concept. But, when Democrats start bashing the GOP as the party of segregation, that baggage is theirs.

For a century and a half, race is one issue the Republicans have been right on--or, at the very minimum, less wrong. We've grown used to the Democrats' strange black-is-white world, where Al Gore apparently genuinely believes his father was a civil rights crusader rather than a civil rights obstacle. Segregation is the Democrats' history, and for Trent Lott to give them an excuse to dump it on the GOP doorstep is all the reason Republicans needed to be done with him once and for all.


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on the money, as usual

I like the reminder that Strom was a Democrat 'Dixiecrat' in 1948

1 posted on 12/15/2002 6:32:09 AM PST by chiller
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To: chiller
I have one thing to say

AL GORE ON SNL!!!!!
2 posted on 12/15/2002 6:34:59 AM PST by Mixer
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To: chiller
Here's the best part of Mark's piece, imho:

"For the best part of two centuries, the Democrats have been the party of race: In the 19th century, they were for slavery; in the 20th, for segregation; in the 21st, for the neo-segregation of ''affirmative action,'' ''hate crimes'' and all the other paraphernalia of the modish trickle-down apartheid determined to make racial categorization a permanent feature of the American landscape. "
3 posted on 12/15/2002 6:37:15 AM PST by chiller
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To: chiller; Pokey78
bttt for later read !!
4 posted on 12/15/2002 6:42:02 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: chiller
There is surely no nation in the world that holds "racism" in greater horror than does the United States.

Compared to other kinds of offenses, it is thought to be somehow more reprehensible. The press and public have become so used to tales of murder, rape, robbery, and arson, that any but the most spectacular crimes are shrugged off as part of the inevitable texture of American life.

"Racism" is never shrugged off. For example, when a White Georgetown Law School student reported earlier this year that black students are not as qualified as White students, it set off a booming, national controversy about "racism." If the student had merely murdered someone he would have attracted far less attention and criticism.

by Thomas Jackson

To bad Lott hadn't read the above...

5 posted on 12/15/2002 6:52:33 AM PST by Minutes
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To: chiller
Lott should have stood his ground, but like other politicians of his ilk he has become A TOFU Politician. We need people with a spine, not a bunch of whimpering apologetic, try to make everyone happy dolts.
6 posted on 12/15/2002 6:53:34 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: chiller
I am so sick and tired of what should have been a complete non-issue dominating cable news, Free Republic and even late night network tv. With every bit of attention paid to it, it gives them more ammunition by lending credibility to a story that has no validity whatsoever. While I agree that Lott is a moron, I really do hope he isn't so much so that with all his butt kissing and bending over for them to stick it to him, that he doesn't hand the senate back to the Rats on a silver platter in feigned remorse for something irrelevant. Ann Coulter and Pat Buchanan are the only ones I have heard who are right on this issue.
8 posted on 12/15/2002 7:09:17 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Pokey78
For your Ping List.
9 posted on 12/15/2002 7:27:55 AM PST by Gritty
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To: sweetliberty
While I agree that Lott is a moron, I really do hope he isn't so much so that with all his butt kissing and bending over for them to stick it to him, that he doesn't hand the senate back to the Rats on a silver platter in feigned remorse for something irrelevant.

He won't if he immediately resigns as SML. That's what he should do -- otherwise the DemocRATS get the brass ring in 2004.

America's Fifth Column ... watch Steve Emerson/PBS documentary JIHAD! In America
New Link: Download 8 Mb zip file here (60 minute video)

Who is Steve Emerson?

10 posted on 12/15/2002 7:35:14 AM PST by JCG
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To: Gritty
Lott is truly DUMB and reflects a stupidity seldom seen in a "professional...big time" politician. You can dismiss Jackon's racist remarks by saying that as a POLITICIAN he was not smart enough to keep his big mouth shut (even if he believed it) since he had not worked at that level (presidential aspirations, national media attention focusing on every belch of someone at that level).
YES unless Lott is blind and we do not know he KNEW cameras were there. Yet, he is expecting the GOP to walk the plank with him. I find it heartening that many conservatives are calling for him to go (and Sean Hannity battles to turn the focus away from Lott's s-t-u-p-i-t-y by focusing on Democrats, which is NO DEFENSE of Lott).
He is truly dumb, has hurt the GOP, sold conservatives down the river in several recent things anyway -- and he MUST GO or the Democrats will have a nice demon to race money with...and Republicans will be to blame for keeping a bad, outdated, unattractive political product on the national market.
(Next time I will tell you what I REALLY think)
11 posted on 12/15/2002 7:40:22 AM PST by jraven
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To: JCG
But if he is saying that if he steps down as majority leader he will leave the senate and actually does it, leaving the Rat governor of Mississippi to select a Rat replacement for Lott, the senate will be toast.

I'm not the least bit upset with Lott for what he said. I think it was just mindless words meant to compliment Strom Thurmond and nothing more. What I am upset with him, AND with other Republicans about, is allowing the Rats to make a big deal of it and to let Lott take the fall that they may opportunistically replace him as majority leader. While I agree he should be replaced, or at least should have been, I think it is reprehensible that they would use such a triviality to do it and if he steps down altogether, it may blow up in their faces. Either way, the Rats have already won. If he stays as leader now, he will be kissing their sorry butts and playing slave to the likes of Shiela Jackson Lee and Maxine Waters and any other black Rat that wants to hop on the slavemaster bandwagon, which will render him completely impotent as even a Republican, let alone majority leader.
12 posted on 12/15/2002 7:46:33 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
I agree with you, it is becoming so absurd. That being said, Lott must go. I hear that he has threatened to resign from the senate if he is forced to step down, so be it. In the long run it is better for the Republicans. Everytime he gets up to speak on the floor it will be a reminder that Repubs are racist. People like me and others here worked very hard to convince with all our hearts to dispel the myth that we are racist bigots. I am so angry at Lott for this one thing alone. Face it liberals can get away with crap like this. We cannot.
13 posted on 12/15/2002 8:43:31 AM PST by LetFreedomRing2
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To: sweetliberty
If he stays as leader now, he will be kissing their sorry butts and playing slave to the likes of Shiela Jackson Lee and Maxine Waters and any other black Rat that wants to hop on the slavemaster bandwagon, which will render him completely impotent as even a Republican, let alone majority leader.

We agree, then. Lott has to go as SML.

America's Fifth Column ... watch Steve Emerson/PBS documentary JIHAD! In America
New Link: Download 8 Mb zip file here (60 minute video)

Who is Steve Emerson?

14 posted on 12/15/2002 9:05:15 AM PST by JCG
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To: Gritty; MeeknMing; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; deport; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; ...
Thanks!


15 posted on 12/15/2002 9:57:22 AM PST by Pokey78
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To: chiller; Alamo-Girl; onyx; SpookBrat; Republican Wildcat; Howlin; Fred Mertz; dixiechick2000; ...
Lott's sin is giving Dems ammo--so he must go [Mark Steyn]

Excerpt:

It's pathetic that Jesse (''Hymietown'') Jackson should be huffing and puffing about Lott's outrageous behavior. It's ridiculous that RNC Chairman Marc Racicot has been bullied into a meeting with Al Sharpton: If Lott is unacceptable as Senate majority leader, the race-baiting Rev should be unacceptable anywhere. But that's why principled conservatives have a right to be furious with the senator.

When the NAACP do their ugly dragging ads about Republicans opposing ''hate crimes'' legislation, they're right to this extent: Most Republicans do oppose ''hate crimes'' legislation, and for very good reasons. And when Al Gore taunts George W. Bush about ''affirmative action,'' it's legitimate to this extent: Most Republicans regard racial quotas as an obnoxious and un-American concept. But, when Democrats start bashing the GOP as the party of segregation, that baggage is theirs.

For a century and a half, race is one issue the Republicans have been right on--or, at the very minimum, less wrong. We've grown used to the Democrats' strange black-is-white world, where Al Gore apparently genuinely believes his father was a civil rights crusader rather than a civil rights obstacle. Segregation is the Democrats' history, and for Trent Lott to give them an excuse to dump it on the GOP doorstep is all the reason Republicans needed to be done with him once and for all.



Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.

16 posted on 12/15/2002 9:58:59 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: chiller
Big Steyn Bump.

Add him to the list of conservative "whiners."

It's getting to be a big list.

17 posted on 12/15/2002 9:59:05 AM PST by The Iguana
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To: chiller; All
Byrd said in part, "I think we try to have good will. My old mom told me, `Robert, you can't go to heaven if you hate anybody.' We practice that. There are white ni**ers. I've seen a lot of white ni**ers in my time. I'm going to use that word."

See this Michelle Malkin article about Robert Byrd from March 7, 2001


Former KKK Clansman,
Senator Robert Byrd……

18 posted on 12/15/2002 10:01:29 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: Mixer
I have one thing to say

AL GORE ON SNL!!!!!


Even made up as Trent Lott,
I look stiff like a tree...

19 posted on 12/15/2002 10:03:50 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Lott should remove himself from the senate leadership.

Jackson and Sharpton should remove themselves from the human race.

I suspect no one wants Lott to stay more than the Dynamic Duo. They're nothing if they have nothing to whine about.

If they had kept their mouths shut, Lott would probably be gone already. By starting up their Rant machine, they've pushed many conservatives (especially here) to rally around Lott.

I understand the impulse - believe me, I do. But Lott doesn't deserve it.

If he had any loyalty or decency he'd do the right thing and step down. I'd be happy to reward him with a nice committee chair where he can continue shoveling pork back home.

20 posted on 12/15/2002 10:04:23 AM PST by The Iguana
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To: The Iguana
If he had any loyalty or decency he'd do the right thing and step down.

Though it's not like anybody on The Other Side would. Or has.

21 posted on 12/15/2002 10:06:33 AM PST by maxwell
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To: chiller
What Senator Lott said, indirectly, is what most Whites and Blacks believe to be true. That is the CIVIL RIGHTS legislation of the 1960's is not working and will not work in the future. There has to be a better way for a White or Black to invite a Black or White to his home for dinner than following LB Johnsons "Laws".
22 posted on 12/15/2002 10:08:45 AM PST by Blake#1
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To: The Iguana
Don't worry, the list hasn't gotten long enough to change the name of the Stupid PartyTM yet...
23 posted on 12/15/2002 10:14:49 AM PST by stands2reason
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To: MeeknMing
"Condi Rice is an effective, black, female National Security Adviser but she holds that position not because of her blackness or her femaleness but her effectiveness; she's better than the white males who were up for the job."

I am kind of fond of this line. Go, Condi.
24 posted on 12/15/2002 10:14:52 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: Pokey78
Lott is a player. Lott was a Democrat until 1972. He was chief of staff to the democratic congress man he replaced. When his boss retired,Lott ran for his seat. There were 12 candidates in the Democatic primary that year so Lott with his bosses blessing ran as a Republican unapposed. He got the nomination and won in the Nixon landslide of 1972. Lott had the support and blessing of the Democrat Congressman he replaced.

All that tells you is lott is a player and a strategist. Already the media is starting to play it as a Republican take down of Lott. With Goldberg, Noonan, and lots of others demanding he relinquish the leadership, his chances of being majority leader are nil.

With Nickles set to challenge and bush and Rove wanting Lott out he has zero chance to retain any power as a Republican.

I would remind you that Daschle defened Lott at first and never said anything very hard. I would note that very RINO senator Snowe issued a press release praising Lott. That wil allow Daschle to offer them both a good home in the Democartic party.

Lott knows he could never win reelection in a state with 40 percent black votes with this on his back. If he wants to stay in the senate, he will NEED to be a Democrat now, just like he NEEDED to be a Republican in 1972.

Just as in 1972 the solution is simple. Lott just has to change parties. If he can bring Snowe with him the will be the NEW HUGE DEMOCRATIC HERO who chopped down the evil bush and made Daschle Majority leader again.

The attempts by Bush and Rove to remove Lott is the single dumbest political act I have ever seen. It is like playing russian roulette with 5 chambers loaded.

Lott will either resign his seat making it a 50-50 senate or become what he once was... a loyal Democrat.

Perhaps Senator Byrd could tell Lott how Democrats handle Southern men who misspeak!!! I betcha Daschle and Pelosi already have.

25 posted on 12/15/2002 10:16:53 AM PST by Common Tator
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To: chance33_98
Lott should have stood his ground

Stood his ground?  When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.
Whether Lott believes his own words or not, what he said was untenable.
As Steyn says, 49-51 means a disciplined party trying to persuade the
opposition to cross the aisle and vote the Republican agenda.  The last
thing needed is a leader who can't discipline his own self, not to mention
his demonstrated lack of backbone.  Lott must step down.
26 posted on 12/15/2002 10:19:17 AM PST by gcruse
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To: gcruse
Well said. You would think that after thirty years in DC, Lott would understand that Republicans are held to higher standard and would choose his words more carefully.

However, after six and one-half years of watching his smarmy butt-kissing, I realize that is not possible. We has more second chances than Lazarus with the Kelly Flinn mess, impeachment, the 2000 five-seat loss disaster, the 50-50 cave-in, and his unwillingness to take control after the November election. In all cases, he has put his big mouth and his personal interests above the party, its ideals and its agenda.

Eventually, one has to stop the bleeding. It is clear that he cannot BS his way out of this mess. It is time for him to go before he becomes the face of the Republican party.

27 posted on 12/15/2002 10:25:58 AM PST by writmeister
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To: Common Tator
Are you saying that the only way for Lott to prove he's not a racist is to join the Democratic Party? :-)
28 posted on 12/15/2002 10:26:08 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin; Common Tator
Looks like Common Tator got the blight. ;)
29 posted on 12/15/2002 10:30:47 AM PST by gcruse
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To: gcruse
I was glad to read all that. I had forgotten Lott was a Democrat until he needed to be a Republican.

I also had forgotten that Thurmond left the Democrats ONLY when the Civil Rights Act was past.

30 posted on 12/15/2002 10:32:12 AM PST by Howlin
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To: chiller
This guy has SUCH a way with words. LOL!
31 posted on 12/15/2002 10:41:29 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: Bahbah
Yep, me too.
32 posted on 12/15/2002 10:45:23 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: chiller
Although Lott is a Republican, I have NEVER thought he was very good as a Majority Leader. Too much of a DeMARXocrat butt kisser to actually be of any good.
33 posted on 12/15/2002 10:46:27 AM PST by Dustbunny
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To: The Iguana
Jackson and Sharpton should remove themselves from the human race.

puulllllleeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssss!!

Don't give the Lott man any ideas!

34 posted on 12/15/2002 10:47:01 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: jraven
(and Sean Hannity battles to turn the focus away from Lott's s-t-u-p-i-t-y by focusing on Democrats, which is NO DEFENSE of Lott).

True, and Hannity can always be counted on to make the lamest arguments.

35 posted on 12/15/2002 10:47:45 AM PST by WarrenC
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
Innocutate yourself against racism........

take some Vaccine Waters

36 posted on 12/15/2002 10:50:01 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: chiller
Steyn says it all. Trent Lott must go.
37 posted on 12/15/2002 10:51:27 AM PST by beckett
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To: beckett
When dubyah won the presidency...

the 1st early sign of his success was the gary grahm execution in texas---

the liberals on national tv destroyed themselves...

gw got the spotlight---reviews(debates/ELECTION) too!


38 posted on 12/15/2002 10:55:06 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: sweetliberty
But if he is saying that if he steps down as majority leader he will leave the senate and actually does it, leaving the Rat governor of Mississippi to select a Rat replacement for Lott, the senate will be toast.

We don't know that. As I read the Mississippi statutes, if Lott resigns from the Senate in calendar 2002, the Governor of Mississippi must schedule a special election within 90 days to name his replacement. He could appoint an interim Senator, but only for 90 days. Another window occurs in late 2003; if Lott resigns in, say, September or October of 2003, his replacement would be chosen in the general election in November.

I do not know what the risk is of a Democrat winning such an election, but for sure what will not happen is that the current Governor would appoint someone to serve out Lott's term.

39 posted on 12/15/2002 10:55:13 AM PST by Nick Danger
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To: chiller
Here's the best part of Mark's piece, imho . . .

I agree. That was the best paragraph. This whole thing is absolutely ridiculous. It makes me sick that no one, especially Republicans, can just say anything, anymore, without have to make sure they every "t" has been crossed, every "i" has a dot, without being crucified by the immoral, hypocritical, divisive, NAACP, Rats, ACLU, the Rat Black Caucus, which, IMO, try to read and scream "rascisim" into everything.

40 posted on 12/15/2002 10:55:59 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Common Tator
Wow...I don't read all of your commentary, but I've followed it on and off over the years. Never have I seen you more wrong.
41 posted on 12/15/2002 10:59:36 AM PST by beckett
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To: Common Tator
The attempts by Bush and Rove to remove Lott is the single dumbest political act I have ever seen.

Right. Much smarter for the GOP to support Lott's embrace of the 1948 Dixiecrats. Senator Lott, if joining the Democrats is your way out of this, then by all means go. You can't hurt us any more as a Dem than you do as a Republican. At least if you're a Democrat, it'll be the Republicans who can use the Dixiecrat footage in their 2004 campaign ads.

42 posted on 12/15/2002 11:00:57 AM PST by WarrenC
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To: chiller
When the NAACP do their ugly dragging ads about Republicans opposing ''hate crimes'' legislation, they're right to this extent: Most Republicans do oppose ''hate crimes'' legislation, and for very good reasons. And when Al Gore taunts George W. Bush about ''affirmative action,'' it's legitimate to this extent: Most Republicans regard racial quotas as an obnoxious and un-American concept. But, when Democrats start bashing the GOP as the party of segregation, that baggage is theirs.

It's about time somebody said it, and we should all be shouting this from the rooftops NOW!

43 posted on 12/15/2002 11:11:43 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: Pokey78
Thanks Pokey. This one is sooooo goooood!
44 posted on 12/15/2002 11:13:15 AM PST by LisaFab
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To: jraven
You are way too easy on Jackson! He needs to be held accountable just like Lott does. By dismissing Jackson's remarks about Jews cater's to that double standard we have in society.
45 posted on 12/15/2002 11:15:53 AM PST by Arpege92
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To: Minutes
Young black males are the scourge and terror of our cities.

The above statement is:
A) True
B) Racist
C) Never to be uttered by a politician who wants to survive politically.

The above statement is A.
But A is verboten.

Are we even remotely the land of the free, and the home of the brave?
46 posted on 12/15/2002 11:17:31 AM PST by ricpic
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To: Minutes
You (or is it Thomas Jackson?) are correct. But to argue to the posessed that they are posessed is a lost cause - note no responses to your post. The obsession with race and something called "racism", which is in fact ethnocentrism, present and unovoidable in all cultures, is an American disease, infecting all on both ends of the political spectrum. I've tried to argue here that "racism" is a clever invention of the Left that doesn't exist as Dr Mengele practised it, but that only provokes hateful responses from the defenders of conservative politically correct thinking. Belief in "racism" is like a belief in a religious dogma in this country!
47 posted on 12/15/2002 11:26:14 AM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: chiller; Landru
Bump.
48 posted on 12/15/2002 11:27:43 AM PST by BraveMan
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To: chiller
Just a reminder that the Dems are the party of PERSONAL DESTRUCTION!
49 posted on 12/15/2002 11:32:10 AM PST by sam I am
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To: sam I am
And the Pubs are the party of SELF DESTRUCTION. LOL
50 posted on 12/15/2002 11:42:40 AM PST by TigersEye
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