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Trueblackman and Congressmen Jackson Jr. go head to head
myself ^ | 16 December 2002 | trueblackman

Posted on 12/16/2002 10:34:01 AM PST by Trueblackman

Freepers I just finished a taped segment of the Tavis Smiley Show for National Public Radio against Congressmen Jesse Jackson Jr.


The Congressmen kept pushing for a "Censur" of Senator Lott and the need for him to step down as Majority Leader.


The first matter I cleared up was if the Republicans choose to pick another Leader other than Lott then they can.


Second matter was "Why wasn't the CBC as outraged at Robert Byrd when he used the N word, just because he put white on the front is no excuse. The Congressmen made the claim that the censur of Lott leave room for a resoulation to be offer a censur of Byrd.


Third I pointed out that Bryd owes his seat to being one time member of the nation's oldest terrorist group. I asked him when was the CBC going to act in the name of all blacks against Byrd.


Four he tried to pull the Clinton Personal Life Monica Thing and that we all knew what we were getting when Clinton was elected and Republicans went after him over a personal mistake. I quickly pointed out that Clinton did make a personal mistake but it was a perfessional since he was in the White House when it happened


Fifth I pointed out that his fellow CBC Members were misleading people in the statement "That the majority leader is 4th in line for the Presidency."

After I stated the facts Congressmen Jackson became really pissed to the point I had to ask him to calm down.


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To: Caliban
Byrd must sit at home at night, and smile widely at how he's fooled all those uppity negroes (insert his word here) into staying on the plantation. Hell, despite the fact that they can use the drinking fountains, it's enough to make an old-style KKK guy laugh out loud. And the best thing is they count as a full vote apiece!
51 posted on 12/16/2002 12:08:43 PM PST by WileyC
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To: Trueblackman
I haven't heard it yet, Kevin, but I'll download it from the archives (http://www.npr.org/) this evening after I get home.

It sounds like you got everything in that needed to be said; and that Tavis has started learning to listen and let his guests get their points in as opposed to jumping sides and trying to fight the battles for them.

When I did Tavis' show earlier this fall, I have to admit that he was very even-handed with his conversation; I was genuinely surprised.

52 posted on 12/16/2002 12:13:02 PM PST by mhking
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To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
Black conservative ping

If you want on (or off) of my black conservative ping list, please let me know via FREEPmail. (And no, you don't have to be black to be on the list!)

Extra warning: this is a high-volume ping list.

53 posted on 12/16/2002 12:13:47 PM PST by mhking
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To: Trueblackman
Cool! Go git 'em.

You should have asked why America has to answer to his father, who had a child by a woman not his wife. Let him say that it was nothing but a "personal mistake, can't we all just move on?" about that!

54 posted on 12/16/2002 12:17:19 PM PST by sauropod
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To: Trueblackman
Awesome job, Kevin!

NEXT! :-)

55 posted on 12/16/2002 12:26:48 PM PST by bootless
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To: desertcry
Jesse Jackson Jr. JJJ. Add one letter to each. KKK. Coincidence? I think not.
56 posted on 12/16/2002 12:30:01 PM PST by WashingtonCollegeofLaw
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To: Trueblackman
I'm glad you were able to make points and be the gentleman you always are...but...I don't know how anyone can presume to debate anything JJ Jr. Is there a kind side to this man or is every day of his life just a new day to hate?
57 posted on 12/16/2002 12:31:39 PM PST by FryingPan101
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To: Trueblackman
"After I stated the facts Congressmen Jackson became really pissed to the point I had to ask him to calm down"

Thank you for fighting against the race pimps, TBM!

58 posted on 12/16/2002 12:38:53 PM PST by cake_crumb
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To: mhking
"I haven't heard it yet, Kevin, but I'll download it from the archives (http://www.npr.org/) this evening after I get home."

I don't listen to NPR normally. I'm glad to know I can download TBM's interview from the archives...and definitely WILL! Thanks!

59 posted on 12/16/2002 12:44:00 PM PST by cake_crumb
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To: Trueblackman
Great Job. Super Ultra Mega BUMP
60 posted on 12/16/2002 12:44:08 PM PST by thatdewd
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To: sauropod
"You should have asked why America has to answer to his father, who had a child by a woman not his wife. Let him say that it was nothing but a 'personal mistake, can't we all just move on?' about that!"

Uh...I thought he DID say something to that effect when the fertilizer hit the fan. IIRC, he also explained his bringing his MISTRESS to the WH while 'personally ministering' to Bubba as a 'personal mistake', too.

61 posted on 12/16/2002 12:47:54 PM PST by cake_crumb
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To: Trueblackman
Give em H-E-double-L Trueblackman.
62 posted on 12/16/2002 12:48:04 PM PST by fightin kentuckian
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To: Trueblackman
Thank you, Trueblackman, for fighting for truth and sanity. You will end up helping black Americans more than will those who oppose your views.

Second matter was "Why wasn't the CBC as outraged at Robert Byrd when he used the N word, just because he put white on the front is no excuse. The Congressmen made the claim that the censur of Lott leave room for a resoulation to be offer a censur of Byrd.

The reason they don't get riled up about Byrd is simply because Byrd is a democrat.

I hope you can point out in the future that the most harmful thing the Democrats have bequeathed to black Americans is VICTIMHOOD. The refusal to accept responsibility for what befalls us in life is extremely debilitating, and allows for zero success in life. I'm a businessman, and the most important color to me is green. When interviewing and training, we make sure everyone understands that they will be evaluated on objective criteria, and they must accept responsibility for success or failure. My experience has been that blacks are willing to embrace this philosphy quite readily, victimhood is not something that comes easy to them. As a result, we have many very productive blacks on our staff.

63 posted on 12/16/2002 1:18:09 PM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: Trueblackman
You against Jesse Jackson Jr?

LOL! Thats as much of a challenge as a prizefighter in a preschool!

64 posted on 12/16/2002 1:49:16 PM PST by gnarledmaw
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To: Trueblackman
Way to go! You give me hope for the future, and I really need a boost right now!
65 posted on 12/16/2002 2:04:04 PM PST by puroresu
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To: TLBSHOW
If Trent Lott is the Republicans' Monica Lewinski does that mean the republicans should all circle the wagons in defense of Lott the way the dem did in defense of Slick? After all, it's not an impeachable offense.
66 posted on 12/16/2002 2:13:35 PM PST by Terry Mross
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To: Trueblackman
What's with Son of Jesse and his speech patterns? Some time back - before Junior got 'all growed up' - he talked like everyone else. But lately, since he's in the big time now, his speech rivals Jesse, Sr. He enunciates syllables, and seems to have effected his tone.

What's he trying to do? Be noticed?

67 posted on 12/16/2002 2:15:15 PM PST by Exit148
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To: Trueblackman
Good.

Go get that scumbag.

Jack$on Junior has just been making one ridiculous, racist statement after another, seemingly there is no one there to answer him.

Makes me sick..

68 posted on 12/16/2002 2:22:16 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Trueblackman
Go Kevin, Go Kevin, Go Kevin ....
69 posted on 12/16/2002 2:22:36 PM PST by zeaal
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To: Trueblackman
thanks Kevin good work
70 posted on 12/16/2002 2:27:51 PM PST by not-alone
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To: Trueblackman
Now, I have to ask - did JJJ say that he should be "censored" or "censured"?
71 posted on 12/16/2002 2:28:26 PM PST by MrB
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To: WashingtonCollegeofLaw
Yes, JJJ is the mirror image of kkk, that's a good point.
72 posted on 12/16/2002 2:31:38 PM PST by desertcry
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To: Trueblackman
You rock!!!

74 posted on 12/16/2002 3:35:34 PM PST by AnnaZ
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To: Trueblackman
Oh-I wish I had heard it-you said it was taped-has it actually played? Do you know when his show is on?

Thank you so much for your good sense and your dedication to the content of character over all else.

Have always wondered, Trueblackman, if Byrd voted for Thurmond and was secretly very happy that Lott's comments were blown up into mind boggling proportions in order to have a target beneficial to the DNC? I mean-ya have to wonder if he is "Boy-sure am glad the press is in the liberal dems fat hip pockets or that could be MOI instead of Trent!"

75 posted on 12/16/2002 3:39:24 PM PST by Republic
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To: Trueblackman
After I stated the facts Congressmen Jackson became really pissed to the point I had to ask him to calm down.

Geeez. Poor congressman Jackson-with a dad like he has, ya wonder if the guy stands a chance at understanding good character. Not that Lott has it, he might, I dunno know, I vascillate all over the place when considering Trent Lott. But YOU DO! You have terrific 'character' (and it shows!)

76 posted on 12/16/2002 3:42:21 PM PST by Republic
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To: Trueblackman
Go, Kevin, go! You're the "truth" man!
77 posted on 12/16/2002 3:42:55 PM PST by lonestar
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To: Trueblackman
I don't know how to get that show, but hey, give 'em hell anyway.
78 posted on 12/16/2002 3:46:37 PM PST by Petronski
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To: ewing
This is the last person I would want facing me on the 'No Spin Zone' as a liberal

Indeed, note to self, stay on Kevin's good side, or at least away, way away, from his bad side. :) Glad to hear that he handed Congressman Jackson his head on a platter, figuratively speaking...I trust.

79 posted on 12/16/2002 3:51:53 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Trueblackman
Top notch job.

Your remark, in contrasting the Clinton and Bush White House, about the Democrat Party as the "party of tokenism" is spot on.

You need more gigs! I do not have cable. So I rely on radio and FR for information.

Have you considered seeing if you could get on Imus?

80 posted on 12/16/2002 3:59:20 PM PST by don-o
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To: Trueblackman
You've got guts, TBM. Keep the faith.
81 posted on 12/16/2002 3:59:21 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Trueblackman
I pointed out that his fellow CBC Members were misleading people in the statement "That the majority leader is 4th in line for the Presidency."

Actually, for the moment, the fourth in line for the presidency is none other than "Sheets" Byrd of West Virginia (President pro tem of the Senate).

82 posted on 12/16/2002 3:59:56 PM PST by xlib
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To: Petronski
I don't know how to get that show, but hey, give 'em hell anyway. There is a link back up in the 20's that worked for me.
83 posted on 12/16/2002 4:01:17 PM PST by don-o
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To: Texaggie79
What - someone who's clearheaded under pressure and who refuses to compromise his principles? But that would make sense!
84 posted on 12/16/2002 4:03:13 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Trueblackman
I have to somehow, get you over here to Monmouth County, New Jersey to speak in front of some of the educational wingnuts in my predominantly black neighborhood..

I got hard working people here...and their kids are being fed a line of crap.

That's the Asbury Park/Neptune area...you might know the area.

85 posted on 12/16/2002 4:15:47 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum
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To: Trueblackman
Bttt.

5.56mm

86 posted on 12/16/2002 4:25:07 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Trueblackman
Kevin,
It was a great listen. I cannot tell you what a joy it was to hear you demand that the Democratic Party treat others as they treat their own. Keep up the good work. We need all of the voices of reason we can get.
87 posted on 12/16/2002 4:47:34 PM PST by Clara Lou
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To: RooRoobird14; ForGod'sSake
Probably not unless things change
88 posted on 12/16/2002 4:48:37 PM PST by bert
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To: Trueblackman
I watched you the other night on Fox and you were great. Thanks for your efforts to inform, enlighten, and bring a sense of dignity to being a True Black Man.
89 posted on 12/16/2002 4:50:17 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Trueblackman
I listened to the entire show on the Internet. Bravo, Kevin! Bravo! [Sound of standing ovation!]

You did very well against Congressman Jackson. Jackson is a smooth talker, smoother than his father. You stood toe to toe with him and made much more sense. Loved your points about KKK Byrd and Monica-Clinton. You made very proud to know you from FR !

90 posted on 12/16/2002 5:28:04 PM PST by ex-Texan
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To: TLBSHOW
The burning question is who is the Republican Party's Jesse Jackson? I can't find a single instantce of one Republican knocking up their secretary.
91 posted on 12/16/2002 5:37:48 PM PST by SCHROLL
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To: Trueblackman
Masterful job, Trueblackman! I'd only add that you might have asked the Rev., Jr. about that oath he took to uphold the Constitution. He'd best get to reading the fine print. And I'm not just talking about the line of succession.

He probably doesn't even know that the President of the Senate is Dick Cheney. Or am I being too harsh? Maybe he does, and maybe he'd rather mislead. Nah.

Btw, the reason that the Majority Leader is not mentioned in the Constitution is because the President Pro-Tem is an officer of the entire body, while the Maj. Leader is a political officer. Lott's position is a product of the two-party system, not the Constitution. That office evolved over time. It's a 20th Century name. Before it was informal, and the leading Senator usually took the Appropriations Chair. The Senate is an odd beast, made up of personalities, each of whom holds the same power as any other. That a Representative shows such ignorance of the Senate is embarrassing. I suppose the Senate ought like this, as they enjoy holding themselves about that vulgar, lower body.

I'm intrigued by the reference to Monica. Why attack your own to get at another? Did he really think it was an effective argument, or is there something else he's getting at? Or has the Clintoon legacy finally taken hold? If JJJ wants to bring up Monica, I'm game. Let's put Lott under oath, and in a court of law, and ask him if he ever had sexual relations with Strom Thurmond.

Just seems like an odd time to remind us of Monica.

Onwards to "Censur." Of what? Does us no real good to retort with the "censure" of someone else. Instead, why don't we take Triple-J at his word: OK, let's censure Lott. Let's slap a restraining order on him, denying him access to 1948 and racism in all its forms. Let's forbid him any mention of "race."

That'll effectively block 3/4's of the Black Caucus' legislation.

I'm in awe of people like you who can speak quick, precise and effective words. It's an art that I see you shall perfect with further practice. Congratulations!
92 posted on 12/16/2002 8:21:15 PM PST by nicollo
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To: Trueblackman
I am probably not going to be able to hear it but really wish I could.
Sounds like you did a great job Kevin. Thanks for all you do.
93 posted on 12/16/2002 8:51:36 PM PST by hoosierpearl
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To: hoosierpearl
If you have a real player on your computer someone did a link to the NPR website in one of the earilier replies. Good Luck and Thanks a million to everyone here.
94 posted on 12/16/2002 9:02:35 PM PST by Trueblackman
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To: Trueblackman
Sounds like you did a great job and made your point. Very good.
95 posted on 12/16/2002 9:09:25 PM PST by dalebert
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To: Trueblackman
Damned fine job, sir. Damned fine.
96 posted on 12/17/2002 12:18:37 AM PST by Audit_Jesse
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To: Trueblackman
Eh, Hit post too quickly. I was going off of what was said here, but when I clicked the links, the "page cannot be displayed" came up. A search of NPR.org found the story, but same results. I'll have to take everyone's word for it, but still, damned fine job!
97 posted on 12/17/2002 12:23:11 AM PST by Audit_Jesse
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To: Trueblackman
Four he tried to pull the Clinton Personal Life Monica Thing and that we all knew what we were getting when Clinton was elected and Republicans went after him over a personal mistake.

It wasn't Republicans that went after Clinton for his adulterous activity at first. Clinton was the former governor of Arkansas before all that got started. Being accused of being a womanizer made Clinton! Besides, it is disingenuous for JessJackJr to suggest that "we all knew what we were getting" when Clinton was elected because he and Hillary made durn sure we understood that any philandering that he might have done (remember, he never admitted it in the 60 Minutes interview) was over and done with.

Would JessJackJr agree that now we know his daddy more reckless than Clinton about where he spreads his seed (Monica didn't have a baby, just a ruined dress), he should expect more secret half-sisters in the future? After all don't "we all know what we are getting" in JessJackSr?

I quickly pointed out that Clinton did make a personal mistake but it was a perfessional since he was in the White House when it happened

We shouldn't lose track of what the issues were regarding Lewinsky.

To the best of my memory, these are the facts: Lewinsky was "a personal mistake" at first, but she became more than just personal when Clinton scrambled to make sure she stayed "personal." When Clinton was shocked to discover that Paula Jones' lawyers knew about her, he committed perjury in a deposition, mentioned Betty Currie's name as if she could back up his story, and quickly arranged a discussion with Currie to get his story straight in case she was subpoenaed. Then the stories about Lewinsky being a "stalker" were bandied about by Sidney Blumenthal (among others), and Vernon Jordan was enlisted to get her a cushy job fast. Remember, the day the story broke on Drudge, she had just landed a gig with Revlon, home of billionaire Clintonoid Ron Perelman. In the aftermath, the offer was withdrawn.

In short, The President of the United States attempted to use the power of his office to fix a civil suit against him. That was not a "personal mistake." That was felonious, and IMHO, he should have been convicted by the Senate.

98 posted on 12/17/2002 12:50:02 AM PST by L.N. Smithee
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To: Trueblackman
I'm very proud of you. Thank you and God bless.
99 posted on 12/17/2002 2:54:30 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: Trueblackman
Bump
100 posted on 12/17/2002 12:07:16 PM PST by Jael
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