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Darwin in the Classroom: Ohio allows alternatives.
National Review Online ^ | December 17, 2002 | John G. West Jr.

Posted on 12/17/2002 6:59:43 AM PST by xsysmgr

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To: ContentiousObjector
New director of science education in Ohio:


41 posted on 12/17/2002 2:59:16 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
I was thinking more along the lines of William Jennings Bryan's head in a glass jar, ala Futurama
42 posted on 12/17/2002 3:10:29 PM PST by ContentiousObjector
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To: PatrickHenry
LOL, ain't it the truth!!
43 posted on 12/17/2002 3:11:46 PM PST by Aric2000
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To: Dimensio
Anyone who thinks that evolution implies such is either ignorant, stupid or lying.

Why does it have to be either/or?

:-)

44 posted on 12/17/2002 3:17:02 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Dimensio
matter/life out of nothing...big bang---poppinig is evolution!

no design too!

45 posted on 12/17/2002 3:32:38 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: Alamo-Girl
From the article:

Science is supposed to prize open minds and critical thinking.

As long as open minds are closed to questioning evolution.

What's that quote of yours... hostile resistance to inquiry is prima facie cause for inquiry?

46 posted on 12/17/2002 4:52:16 PM PST by scripter
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To: f.Christian
matter/life out of nothing...big bang---poppinig is evolution!

The big bang theory has absolutely nothing to do with evolutionary theory. Only idiot Creationists who know nothing of science attempt to equate the two.
47 posted on 12/17/2002 6:22:00 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: Dimensio
Creation/God...REFORMATION(Judeo-Christianity)---secular-govt.-humanism/SCIENCE---CIVILIZATION!

Originally the word liberal meant social conservatives(no govt religion--none) who advocated growth and progress---mostly technological(knowledge being absolute/unchanging)based on law--reality... UNDER GOD---the nature of GOD/man/govt. does not change. These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values(private/personal) GROWTH(limited NON-intrusive PC Govt/religion---schools)!

Evolution...Atheism-dehumanism---TYRANNY(pc/liberal/govt-religion/rhetoric)...

Then came the SPLIT SCHIZOPHRENIA/ZOMBIE/BRAVE-NWO1984 LIBERAL NEO-Soviet Darwin/ACLU America---the post-modern superstition age of faux science!

48 posted on 12/17/2002 6:31:20 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: xsysmgr
Thanks to the book Icons of Evolution by biologist Jonathan Wells, more people know about how biology textbooks perpetuate discredited "icons" of evolution that many biologists no longer accept as good science. Embryo drawings purporting to prove Darwin's theory of common ancestry continue to appear in many textbooks despite the embarrassing fact that they have been exposed as fakes originally concocted by 19th-century German Darwinist Ernst Haeckel. Textbooks likewise continue to showcase microevolution in peppered moths as evidence for Darwin's mechanism of natural selection even though the underlying research is now questioned by many biologists.

Here are some books rated for those icons.

TEXTBOOK
#1
#2
#3
#4
#5
#6
#7
#8
#9
#10
ICON
Miller-Urey
D
D
F
F
D
F
D
F
F
F
Darwin's tree of life
F
D
D
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
Vertebrate limb homology
D
D
D
D
F
F
D
F
D
D
Haeckel's embryos
F
D
F
F
F
D
F
F
F
F
Archaeopteryx
C
B
D
D
D
F
D
F
F
F
Peppered moths
X
N/A
D
F
F
F
F
D
F
F
Darwin's finches
F
D
D
X
D
F
F
D
F
F
OVERALL GRADE
D-
D+
D-
F
F
F
F
F
F
F

List of Textbooks Evaluated
(All have copyright dates of 1998 or later. Books are listed alphabetically by first author's last name.)
1. Alton Biggs, Chris Kapicka & Linda Lundgren, Biology: The Dynamics of Life (Westerville, OH: Glencoe/McGraw-Hill, 1998). ISBN 0-02-825431-7
2. Neil A. Campbell, Jane B. Reece & Lawrence G. Mitchell, Biology, Fifth Edition (Menlo Park, CA: The Benjamin/Cummings Publishing Company, 1999). ISBN 0-8053-6573-7
3. Douglas J. Futuyma, Evolutionary Biology, Third Edition (Sunderland, MA: Sinauer Associates, 1998). ISBN 0-87893-189-9
4. Burton S. Guttman, Biology, (Boston: WCB/McGraw-Hill, 1999). ISBN 0-697-22366-3
5. George B. Johnson, Biology: Visualizing Life, Annotated Teacher's Edition (Orlando, FL: Holt, Rinehart & Winston, 1998). ISBN 0-03-016724-8
6. Sylvia Mader, Biology, Sixth Edition (Boston: WCB/McGraw-Hill, 1998). ISBN 0-697-34080- 5
7. Kenneth R. Miller & Joseph Levine, Biology, Fifth Edition (Upper Saddle River, NJ: Prentice-Hall, 2000). ISBN 0-13-436265-9
8. Peter H. Raven & George B. Johnson, Biology, Fifth Edition (Boston: WCB/McGraw-Hill, 1999). ISBN 0-697-35353-2
9. William D. Schraer & Herbert J. Stoltze, Biology: The Study of Life , Seventh Edition (Upper Saddle River, NJ: Prentice Hall, 1999). ISBN 0-13-435086-3
10. Cecie Starr & Ralph Taggart, Biology: The Unity and Diversity of Life, Eighth Edition (Belmont, CA: Wadsworth Publishing Company, 1998). ISBN 0-534-53001-X.


49 posted on 12/17/2002 6:31:22 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: PatrickHenry; scripter; f.Christian; gore3000; Heartlander; Alamo-Girl; CalConservative
Deprived of the stock response that all critics of Darwin must be stupid fundamentalists, some of Darwin's public defenders have taken a page from the playbook of power politics: If you can't dismiss your opponents, demonize them.

Boy, is he spot on!

To: ContentiousObjector

New director of science education in Ohio:


41 posted on 12/17/2002 4:59 PM CST by PatrickHenry
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50 posted on 12/17/2002 6:42:19 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: Dimensio
Gravity is certainly more than a theory, it seems to outright exist. Newton's laws are continually being confirmed, what a great mind. Evolution is never being confirmed. I'll give you something else, anything that begins with "millions and milions of years ago" is merely a fairy tale, like "Once upon a time". www.rae.org you'll love this site. There are many more educated people than I but to guess that I do not have an adequately scientific mind is not fair or true. Just looking for Truth.
51 posted on 12/17/2002 6:49:04 PM PST by HankReardon
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To: HankReardon
hairy potter science!
52 posted on 12/17/2002 6:52:43 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: HankReardon
Gravity is certainly more than a theory, it seems to outright exist.

Gravitational theory proposes the mechanics of why we observe matter attraction, it is not 'matter attracts one another'. As a theory, scientists must always admit the possibility that their understanding of the mechanics is totally wrong and it is really some completely different mechanic that keeps us standing on the ground.

Newton's laws are continually being confirmed, what a great mind.

Newtons laws, as he wrote them, have been falsified. They just happen to apply well enough within a certain set of conditions that we still use them when those conditions apply.

Evolution is never being confirmed.

True. The theory has received supporting evidence, but just like 'gravitational theory' and 'atomic theory', it has never been confirmed.

I'll give you something else, anything that begins with "millions and milions of years ago" is merely a fairy tale

Why, because you say so?
53 posted on 12/17/2002 6:54:23 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: PatrickHenry
The government school teaches a child for years that he or she is merely nothing but an animal. Why should we then be surprised when he or she acts and behaves like merely nothing but an animal?
54 posted on 12/17/2002 7:00:12 PM PST by HankReardon
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To: Dimensio
Evolution...soft---mushy science!
55 posted on 12/17/2002 7:00:43 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: HankReardon
Do you have any comments that you didn't read from a Creationist pamphlet?

Perhaps something with some scientific merit?
56 posted on 12/17/2002 7:04:53 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: HankReardon
The government school teaches a child for years that he or she is merely nothing but an animal. Why should we then be surprised when he or she acts and behaves like merely nothing but an animal?

Then we should revert at once to the pre-Darwin days, when there was no war, no crime, and everyone behaved like angels.

57 posted on 12/17/2002 7:14:16 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: Dimensio
My comments are my own. Keep researching and keep an open mind. Mt. St Helens created a canyon that laid layers strata similiar to the Grand Canyon, it's a look back in time looking at this strata, days, not millions of years. But don't believe this, please, do some research. Don't be scared to discover you are wrong, it's okay we all are frequently. And gravity is real, why it is, is a theory, but it IS. Evolution isn't. Prove it.
58 posted on 12/17/2002 7:14:59 PM PST by HankReardon
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To: PatrickHenry
Got me there, good one! (GEESH! Another scientific mind)
59 posted on 12/17/2002 7:16:37 PM PST by HankReardon
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To: HankReardon
. Mt. St Helens created a canyon that laid layers strata similiar to the Grand Canyon, it's a look back in time looking at this strata, days, not millions of years.

Ah, therefore the Grand Canyone was created in a matter of days...
60 posted on 12/17/2002 7:21:50 PM PST by Dimensio
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