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ARAB BEATS UP JEWISH GIRL AT B'KLYN SCHOOL
New York Post ^ | 12/17/02 | CARL CAMPANILE and MURRAY WEISS

Posted on 12/17/2002 8:19:45 AM PST by nypokerface

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:10:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

December 17, 2002 -- Religious tensions erupted yesterday after authorities confirmed that an Arab girl beat up a Jewish girl at a Brooklyn middle school.

The Arab teen was arrested and suspended for the Dec. 12 attack on the 13-year-old Jewish girl, an honors student, at IS 259 in Dycker Heights, sources said.


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To: Trailerpark Badass
Why are we importing these idiots and their problems?

This has been my question ever since 9/11. Why are we importing trouble for ourselves?

101 posted on 12/17/2002 12:30:33 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: droberts
>>. It is people like yourself that Hitler managed to mobilize against the Jews in the '30s.

What, no mention of the Spanish Inquisition?
102 posted on 12/17/2002 12:31:05 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
Spanish Inquisition
Spanish Inquisition
Spanish Inquisition

There.....happy?
103 posted on 12/17/2002 12:35:20 PM PST by ricpic
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To: swarthyguy
..........HEIL!.............
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I understand that this was directed to droberts, however perhaps you can clarify for the rest of us:
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1) You are acknowledging to droberts that he has your number as in HEIL HITLER, or
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2) You are merely signifying that you are out of arguments and you are resulting to name calling?

Inquiring minds want to Know.
104 posted on 12/17/2002 12:35:59 PM PST by JMP
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To: JMP

But no more than the reflexive Jew Bashing and comparing me to a NAzi.

You guys are great. You accuse me of all crap but you are the ones making the facile comparisions to Nazism and condemning those of us who do not like group gangs beating up on people. When we point out the facts, you call me Nazi, groupthinker, people like me made Nazis possible.

All you have done is denigrate the girl who got beaten up and condemn this story as hearsay and generally show no sympathy for the jewish girl and rush to the defense of the arabs and say this story is BS.

Don't let the facts get in the way. More details would be nice but there are enough facts to discuss this case in the light of recent history and events concerning the muhammadans and particularly the arabs of the USA.

Droberts is the one who started throwing names, calling me my ilk, comparing me to Nazis and you come rushing to his defense.

When i say HEIL i say it to you to show that the hatred of the Jews shows through loud and clear.

WHo're u guys fooling? All your talk of individuals etc is pure BS when you insist on constantly denigrating the story.

105 posted on 12/17/2002 12:47:26 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: ricpic
Picture Pictures....
106 posted on 12/17/2002 12:47:47 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: JMP
Umm.. haven't you seen what's going on in the world today?
The supposed "palistinians" (A joke of itself there. Since there IS NO SUCH thing as a palistinian.) blowing themselves up just to kill a few Jews? Terrorists? PLO/PLA? Hamas? Islamic Jihad? Al Qeada? I take it that you haven't seen this, or the beligerence by the arabs out there?
And this doesn't show a trend?
Are you out of your mind?
You're the one that needs a D minus grade in comprehension.
107 posted on 12/17/2002 12:52:24 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: JMP
If they really wanted to rile up the communities, they just have to go and do something stupid to Kiryas Joel or Monticello, N.Y.
THAT would really rile people.
108 posted on 12/17/2002 12:55:05 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: JMP
Presumably you are blind so ask a friend to read the article to you particularly the part about the weeks of taunting "Jew, Jew, Jew" by a group of Moslemaniacs which led up to this incident.
109 posted on 12/17/2002 12:56:47 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit
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To: JMP
This is clearly a Jew=good, Arab=bad article.

YOU assume that..with no facts also. Facts the girl was taunted by Jew Jew Jew for a period of time and was beaten up..sounds racist to me.

110 posted on 12/17/2002 12:57:27 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: swarthyguy
You were only being compared to a Nazi if the fact that the girl is an Arab has any relevance to the incident in your eyes.
111 posted on 12/17/2002 1:04:14 PM PST by droberts
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To: droberts
Umm. The assailant being Arab DOES have a bearing on this. The Assailant was an arab who taunted the victim about her ethnicity for weeks.
Now, under the hate crimes laws, that's a hate crime. Taunting someone about their ethnicity is a hate crime.
And if pointing that out is a problem, then what of it?
112 posted on 12/17/2002 1:06:46 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: fight_truth_decay
It probably was racist, but all races exhibit racism. However, on FR there is a tendency to only point out incidents of Moslems/Arabs being the perpetrators of such actions.
113 posted on 12/17/2002 1:07:49 PM PST by droberts
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To: Darksheare
No, the issue here is that the perpetrator was of one race and the victim was of another, which as you say, makes it a hate crime. However, if the race of victim and perpetrator were reversed, I can guarantee this story would never have been posted on FR.
114 posted on 12/17/2002 1:09:36 PM PST by droberts
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To: droberts
But, this was an arab being the perp.
115 posted on 12/17/2002 1:09:51 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: droberts
No, it would be the same.
However, kmore than likely, the arab would have been throwing rocks first.
That is what they are taught. They do not think like us, and ascribing western thoughts and feelings to non-western cultures is a fallacy.
116 posted on 12/17/2002 1:11:15 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: hellinahandcart
The Fonz? What do you know about Alphonse? Any clue about his corrupt doings while running Town of Hempstead? His brother's deals? His comments about campaigning in American neighborhoods that happened to be black...."Why bother, the animals won't vote for me anyway"....yeah the Fonz, a real loveable character.
117 posted on 12/17/2002 1:15:35 PM PST by wtc911
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To: droberts
You sound dangerously close to that molasses lake called the "Lie of the Palistinian People".
There is no such thing as a Palistinian. They are arabs.
And history shows that Jordan was created to be their homeland. This has gone round and round here with the revisionist historians, factual historians and the anti-semites going at each other's throats.

Tell me, is murdering 16 young women by blowing yourself up a hate crime?
118 posted on 12/17/2002 1:17:34 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: droberts
Well apart from the "fact" ( OOps i guess you don't buy the central premise that an arrest has taken place ) that he person arrested was arab beating up a jewish girl, you're right.

Thanks for your generosity as to how when and where i'm compared to a nazi..



119 posted on 12/17/2002 1:19:21 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Darksheare
However, kmore than likely, the arab would have been throwing rocks first

Like most humans who believe their freedoms are being violated, they are likely to take up arms against those who they see as the oppressor. In this case it is the rock throwing Palestinian seeing the Jew (or more accurately the Zionist) as the oppressor. Since they have no access to guns, they use rocks. It is exactly what freedom loving Americans have been taught too, except we have guns (for now). So, they do think like us.

120 posted on 12/17/2002 1:19:59 PM PST by droberts
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To: droberts
That's false. You would have posted it. Or one of your brothers in delusion.
121 posted on 12/17/2002 1:21:25 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit
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To: Bruno
The curtain is coming down on white America.

Please, please, FR is not about race; it is about ideas. If any of its residents or citizens, whatever their origin or immediate ancestry, is a supporter of freedom and free-enterprise, they are an asset. The issue is ideas, not race. FR has great members, a number of the most right-thinking are of so-called Latino background, or Black, or Asian.

What I wish the curtain to come down on is welfarism and socialism and philosophies antithecal to the Great Western Judeo-Christian tradition.

122 posted on 12/17/2002 1:22:07 PM PST by happygrl
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To: Alouette
A "catfight" is two girls fighting. Doesn't matter what the reason was--and this article doesn't really make it clear anyway other than to give one side of the story.

Maybe it is as your prejudices dictate. Or maybe not.

123 posted on 12/17/2002 1:22:13 PM PST by Illbay
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To: Darksheare
I'm not arguing the merits of the rights of Palestinians here except to say that the Palestinians think they have a right to the land they're on and are fighting for it. This is a truism and has no bearing on any personal opinions that I might have.
124 posted on 12/17/2002 1:23:17 PM PST by droberts
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To: ricpic
I always wondered when she was going to take off the mask. Then someone told me it was her FACE!

Ugh!

(Insert Redd Foxx "gorilla cookie" joke here).

125 posted on 12/17/2002 1:23:25 PM PST by Illbay
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To: droberts
HOW THE F ARE THEIR FREEEDOMs BEING VIOLATED IN BROOKLYN?

We"re talking bout rabs in brooklyn.....

Remeber the article; both u and your buddy need to READ the piece -- hell it's barely a dozen lines and hardly qualifies as an article -- just a short news report ....

Back to that moral equivalency shibboleth about Zionists and Palestine.

These are presumably US Arab citizens or immigrants....What does attending school in brooklyn have to to with the stone throwers in Gaza....
126 posted on 12/17/2002 1:24:10 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: justshutupandtakeit
OK, review all my article posts for pro-Arab bias and submit a list to me by the end of the day (PST).
127 posted on 12/17/2002 1:24:29 PM PST by droberts
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To: droberts
If they thought like us they would have turned on the scum (their Arab brothers) who begat their suffering and use it day by day. When we have an enemy we don't attack an inoffensive neighbor believed to be too weak to resist rather than the enemy.

Islamaniacs do not think at all like Westerners or even Easterners. After all they are killing across the world as we speak. Jews, Christians, Hindoos, Buddhists they hate them all.
128 posted on 12/17/2002 1:25:45 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit
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To: swarthyguy
What does attending school in brooklyn have to to with the stone throwers in Gaza

Nothing, but Darksheare bought up the rock throwing in post 116.

129 posted on 12/17/2002 1:26:37 PM PST by droberts
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To: droberts
That's bs, and you know it. people who are oppressed don't blow themselves up. They don't kill children, and they don't single-mindedly spread false information.
The 'Palistinians' have.
No, they do not think like us, killing children is abhorant to us. The 'palistinians' don't think anything of it. they also get PAID by the PLA and sponsors for every child they get 'martyred' for the cause.
And they were offered citizenship aways back. Not what they wanted. (Smart move would have been to accept. Citizenship granted rights to sit in the Knesset. Imagine what it might have been like with arabs in the Knesset?)
And tehy have arms a plenty. Where do they get the explosives, eh? Where do they get the anti-tank mines? And the sniper rifles? And the Ak's?
How about answering that? You're full of it. And you know it. The palistinians are supporting terrorism, and by default, supporting the pali's supports terrorism. When they free themselves from the use of murder, then they will be afforded the respect of nations. Until then, they are cowards who step into pizza parlors with bombs and blow up teebage girls.
OOOh, teenage girls! How opressive!
130 posted on 12/17/2002 1:26:43 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: droberts
They don't. There is no such thing as a palistinian.
That is a myth created by the backers of teh PLO for their own purposes. And Arafat isn't even a Pali (As if there are any) he's a fatimid egyptian.
131 posted on 12/17/2002 1:28:16 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: droberts
Correction: The Nazi's and Hitler didn't mobilize "people of our ilk" against another race. The Nazi's bashed in the heads of the communist leaders and then recruited members for the Brownshirts (SA) from the ranks of the defeated communists. Birds of a feather, no?

Get your f*cking history straight please.

In the world of right vs. wrong, this appears to be a case of someone, regardless of whether or not they are "ARAB" of beating up someone who is Jewish. The taunts of "JEW JEW JEW" hardly sounds like good natured cheering to me.

132 posted on 12/17/2002 1:28:21 PM PST by Mr. C
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To: Mr. C
Methinks we've uncovered another revisionist historian.
133 posted on 12/17/2002 1:32:46 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: wtc911
My question was what he had to do with a present-day situation in a Brooklyn public school; did you miss that part?

And yes, I STILL find him more lovable than Schumer, so there. D'Amato never tried to close down gun shops by making the shop owners criminally responsible for straw purchasers.

134 posted on 12/17/2002 1:33:47 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I agree with you on this one.
Droberts thinks they think like us.
Read his #120 for his neurosis.
135 posted on 12/17/2002 1:33:58 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: Darksheare
Me or Him???
136 posted on 12/17/2002 1:34:23 PM PST by Mr. C
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To: droberts
And you brought up Jenin and Gaza - LOL!

>>now I bet if you look hard enough

That's the catch, isn't it?

One never has to look too hard to find the ROPers, does one?


76 posted on 12/17/2002 11:32 AM PST by swarthyguy
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Try looking at Jenin or Gaza.


80 posted on 12/17/2002 11:50 AM PST by droberts
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I don't if Darksheare meant that given the chance, these arabs kids would've stoned the hell of the jewish chick.

137 posted on 12/17/2002 1:34:28 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Darksheare
OK, think I'm with you for most of this. Palestinians who blow up Jews are bad. I can agree with that. However, I would further this concept by removing race from the equation and say that people of any race, background, etc. and saying more generally that people who blow up other people are bad.

Again, I have offered no personal opionion of the Jewish/Palestinian problem and have instead simply said that through the eyes of a Palestinian (who believes he's being oppressed), they are fighting that oppression (where in that statement have I said that I believe the Palestinians are oppressed?). However, I will say this, that if the Palestinian has to fight, I wish they would at least pick hard (military) targets.

138 posted on 12/17/2002 1:34:43 PM PST by droberts
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To: nypokerface
"Mostly residential, Dyker Heights is a sight to behold around Christmas time. You can see some of New York City's most elaborate holiday displays, including a mansion with gargantuan wooden soldiers adorning its columns."(web page)

(message board in yahoo for Dyker Heights)"ok my last question:
why are the youth of dyker heights all acting like thugs
must be that rap music

for real tho
i see more bubble jacketed dmx listening
bandana wearing trouble making punks
strollin up and down my block then ever before
what happened ?"

Lost the site(Yahoo) and could not find it again..seems not all is so quiet in "dyker heights"



139 posted on 12/17/2002 1:35:15 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: Mr. C
Him.
140 posted on 12/17/2002 1:35:27 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: LibertarianLiz
That part of Brooklyn, Dyker Hts, Bay Ridge, Ft. Hamilton has had a growing mid-East population for a few generations. They're mostly Lebanese but newer families are Yemeni with some Palis. Bottom line...some of them are second and even third generation.
141 posted on 12/17/2002 1:35:38 PM PST by wtc911
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To: droberts
Chanting "jew jew jew" and then beating someone's face in, is in no way justifiable under your flawgic.
And equating the Pali's reactions with the American Revolution is also flawgic.
The Pali's have no just cause for murder.
Now you're waffling.
142 posted on 12/17/2002 1:37:10 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: Mr. C
Try reading this.
143 posted on 12/17/2002 1:37:12 PM PST by droberts
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To: Darksheare
Oh bloody hell, for the Nth time, I am describing the situation as the Palestinian sees it.
144 posted on 12/17/2002 1:38:14 PM PST by droberts
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To: swarthyguy
Yes, they probably would have tossed a few rocks at her.
And trying to ascribe western thought and ideas to markedly eastern cultures doesn't work.
(That's what the press tried to do with the terrorists, then that reporter got killed. the press couldn't figure it out. They're STILL trying to ascribe western thought to eastern cultures.)
And quite a few people are trying it here. Won't work.
They don't have the same values (some would argue lack of in certain respects) as we do.
145 posted on 12/17/2002 1:41:07 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: droberts
Oh bloody hell, you bring up Jenin as a comparison and justification for the beating up of this girl in an NewYorkCitySchool and bring in the whole Pali issue into this.

You don't even know where these Arabs are from...

Why do you automatically try and connect it to the Pali, something about which you say you don't care about.
146 posted on 12/17/2002 1:41:40 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: nypokerface
Bring back death by crucifixion!
147 posted on 12/17/2002 1:41:50 PM PST by Doc Savage
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To: hellinahandcart
D'Amato's history is shamelessly self serving and borderline criminal. The taxpayers of NY have paid for his enrichment schemes for years. Check out his involvement with Margiotta or the Luchese family, or Basile or Wedtech, or the treatment plant or the courthouse or Asaro, or HUD scams or Unisys....get the pattern....

New Yorkers know who Alphonse was....a disgrace.

148 posted on 12/17/2002 1:42:17 PM PST by wtc911
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To: droberts
Didn't sound like it.

Sounded more like apologetics for the murderous idiots.
And anyone who feel so opressed by teenage girls that they feel they must blow them up is a moron.
149 posted on 12/17/2002 1:42:44 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: swarthyguy
When did I say they were justified in beating up the girl? Let's get this on record, OK...

Beating up the girl was a bad thing.

...what does Arab/Jew have to do with this beating being a bad thing. NOTHING! A beating is a bad thing. Period.

150 posted on 12/17/2002 1:45:14 PM PST by droberts
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