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ARAB BEATS UP JEWISH GIRL AT B'KLYN SCHOOL
New York Post ^ | 12/17/02 | CARL CAMPANILE and MURRAY WEISS

Posted on 12/17/2002 8:19:45 AM PST by nypokerface

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:10:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

December 17, 2002 -- Religious tensions erupted yesterday after authorities confirmed that an Arab girl beat up a Jewish girl at a Brooklyn middle school.

The Arab teen was arrested and suspended for the Dec. 12 attack on the 13-year-old Jewish girl, an honors student, at IS 259 in Dycker Heights, sources said.


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To: rmlew
Which form of Islam? Shitte or Sunni?
201 posted on 12/17/2002 2:49:45 PM PST by droberts
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To: droberts
Correction: "Shiite"
202 posted on 12/17/2002 2:50:22 PM PST by droberts
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To: BlackVeil
I believe that I condemned the incident.
Some of us are consistant.
203 posted on 12/17/2002 2:54:21 PM PST by rmlew
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To: droberts
Which form of Islam? Shitte or Sunni?

There are Islamists from both the Shi'ite (think Iran) and Sunni sects.

Bin Laden's Islamism is derived from an offshoot of Sunni Islam, called Wahabbism after its founder Ibn Abdul Wahab.
Wahabbism is the official religion of Saudi Arabia.
204 posted on 12/17/2002 2:57:24 PM PST by rmlew
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To: Darksheare
.............Oh, so now the arabs are being oppressed in school by people who are smarter than they are? I thought grades were based off of one's performance, not whether you're a supposedly oppressed ethnic culture.? .......
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WHO SAID THAT? I was reiterating what the article said, nothing more. The Arab girl is a Rhodes scholar for all the information that is contained in the article. What does the fact that the Jewish girl is an honors student have to do with these events?
205 posted on 12/17/2002 3:00:58 PM PST by JMP
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To: JMP
Uhm JMP..>>What does the fact that the Jewish girl is an honors student have to do with these events?

The Jewish girl is the one who got beaten up. So she gets a description.

The attacker does not. Maybe she is an honors student, maybe not.
206 posted on 12/17/2002 3:05:31 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: rmlew
OK, back to your original point (post 200), specifically #2

After 9/11, GW was on the war path of OBL. Every news item, White House press conference was peppered with references to the 'evil one'. Six months later we are told that OBL is no longer important (despite no evidence of his demise) and now we have another distraction, that (originally U.S. sponsored) punch bag - Saddam Hussein. I therefore feel a certain amount of manipulaton of public opinion is going on and am starting to have severe doubts as to whether Arabs or any other facet of Islam had anything to do with 9/11 to begin with (if you're being truly objective, doubts must begin to surface). I realize this may not be a popular opinion (tin foil, etc.) as the Arab theory sits much better with the pre-existing opinions that one already has about Arabs, but then that's the problem with pre-existing bias, it blinds you to exploring alternative explanations.

207 posted on 12/17/2002 3:09:31 PM PST by droberts
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To: johnb838
JMP are you an anti-semitic pig?
208 posted on 12/17/2002 3:09:59 PM PST by johnb838
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To: blackdog
allowing boxing is tantamount to child abuse. The teachers might as well be hittinganally raping the children with baseball bats.
209 posted on 12/17/2002 3:13:08 PM PST by johnb838
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To: droberts
>>I therefore feel a certain amount of manipulaton of public opinion is going on and am starting to have severe doubts as to whether Arabs or any other facet of Islam had anything to do with 9/11 to begin with

OK, let's see.

Operation Northwoods with GlobalHawk Remote Control Technology.....

Osama as a WITTING tool of the CIA....

Unknown unnamed secret cabal working for the Bushes....

Mossad....

UFO's.....Greys/Grays/Reptoids/Nordics

Leprechauns.....

Ollie North?

210 posted on 12/17/2002 3:13:26 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: JMP
You're just one big cliche' aren't you. I bet some of your best friends are Black too. The issue here being discussed does not have anything to do with race. Perhaps you've just joined the wrong post

No, you're just one complete idiot who doesn't understand how these forums work.

NO.1: Is your name Bruno ? You will note that it is Bruno to which my post is directed.

NO. 2: The fact that I have italized the line means that it is a quote from Bruno to whom I am addressing my comment.

NO.3: This is not your own private posting.

NO.4: You are just determined to bait as many posters as possible, are you not ?

NO. 5: Again, you're an idiot !!!

211 posted on 12/17/2002 3:13:46 PM PST by happygrl
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To: Darksheare
..........And you probably think like droberts, that the arabs are opressed and the only recourse they have is to blow up Jewish teenage girls..........
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I have made no judgements and that seems to be your problem. You want me to condem Arabs as a whole people based on the non facts in this article. You are reading facts into the article. That is by definition BIASED.
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On another note, your contention that the cultures of the world are not always compatible with our culture is right on target and fruit for discussion on another day.
212 posted on 12/17/2002 3:14:28 PM PST by JMP
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To: droberts
So you're saying the jews caused 911? And that's why they all got phone calls saying to stay home that day?
213 posted on 12/17/2002 3:16:20 PM PST by johnb838
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To: swarthyguy
No, more like ex-Unocal consultants heading up Afghanistan when all the opposition parties magically step down before the vote.
214 posted on 12/17/2002 3:16:45 PM PST by droberts
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To: johnb838
No, ultimately I have no idea who was behind 9/11. Furthermore, I would submit that based upon the actual evidence presented to the public, I don't see how anyone can know who was behind 9/11.
215 posted on 12/17/2002 3:17:49 PM PST by droberts
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To: droberts
Well, that's because all the countries around there want a pipeline for oil and gas.

And the Taliban had the same offer but werre too stupid to take it up despite the pleadings of the saudis and the pakistanis to accept the pipeline. And the US was prepared to ignore sharia in afghanistan if the pipeline had gone through.

That's not new. Yea, Karzai and Khalilzad are both ex-unocal guys. Guess Unocal had a head start on other companies.

And it wasn't only Unocal, there was also an Argentinian company bidding against them with the Taliban.

The parties stepped down where? In Germany last year? Or this year..either way, same reason, US 'suggested' they do so. That's why Rabbani isn't Prez but Karzai is.

216 posted on 12/17/2002 3:28:45 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: rmlew
.........That's it. You belittle attacks on Jews and I'm pathetic.........
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WHO HAS ATTACKED JEWS? Alledging that is what earns you the label. Don't resort to name calling when you are loosing an argument. It doesn't work, so stop doing it. It's transparent and just makes you look like a looser.
217 posted on 12/17/2002 3:30:39 PM PST by JMP
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To: droberts
Oh isn't this cute?
First Dr. Roberts claims victimhood status for the attackers, then he blames the attack on Israeli policies, and now he claims 9-11 was not done by AL-Qaeda.

Are you a Neo-nazi or sympathyser, an Islamist or sympathyser, or an America and Jew hating leftist? I don't have enough information to tell which yet. (Is't it sad that these groups overlap so much)

After 9/11, GW was on the war path of OBL. Every news item, White House press conference was peppered with references to the 'evil one'.
Perhaps you missed the Al-Jazeera tapes where both Bin Laden and his right-hand man, Al Zawaheeri claimed AL-Qaeda's responsibiility?

Six months later we are told that OBL is no longer important (despite no evidence of his demise) and now we have another distraction, that (originally U.S. sponsored) punch bag - Saddam Hussein

1. Saddam was also sponsored by the USSR.
2. Who says that OBL is unimportant.
Just because mass murderer A is on the loose doesn't mean taht we cant go after B is we can find only B.

I therefore feel a certain amount of manipulaton of public opinion is going on and am starting to have severe doubts as to whether Arabs or any other facet of Islam had anything to do with 9/11 to begin with (if you're being truly objective, doubts must begin to surface). I realize this may not be a popular opinion (tin foil, etc.) as the Arab theory sits much better with the pre-existing opinions that one already has about Arabs, but then that's the problem with pre-existing bias, it blinds you to exploring alternative explanations.

Yes folks, Counterpunch, the Nation, Z-magazine, and not taking your meds properly does rot your brain.

218 posted on 12/17/2002 3:31:01 PM PST by rmlew
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To: droberts
>>I don't see how anyone can know who was behind 9/11.

WoW! That takes the cake. Osama, Zawahiri, Gheith have all taken credit. Binal ALshibh, the hijacker denied a visa, captured in Karachi, gave an interview to aljazeera giving great details of the op and all that is not enough.

OK.
219 posted on 12/17/2002 3:31:17 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: scouse; Alouette; angelo; dennisw
Why isn't this a hate crime?

An excellent question.

220 posted on 12/17/2002 3:32:04 PM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: JMP
We had a bunch of Arabs pick on a girl because whe was Jewish and one attacked her.
You are belittling the incident.
221 posted on 12/17/2002 3:32:05 PM PST by rmlew
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To: Bella_Bru
Because Arabs are more PC than Jews and have been ever since Stalin set that policy in 1953.
222 posted on 12/17/2002 3:32:59 PM PST by rmlew
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To: eno_
Send the perps back home so they can use sand for toilet paper and toothpaste.

Hahaha  .......

223 posted on 12/17/2002 3:35:35 PM PST by dennisw
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To: swarthyguy
I don't know who attacked who. My point is that you don't know either. The article does not give you the facts to know. It is your biases as well as the bias in the article that causes your mind to fabricate any facts that you might need to justify your bias. Thats my point, nothing more. Your cognitive processes are showing.
224 posted on 12/17/2002 3:41:11 PM PST by JMP
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To: JMP
OK, I give up.

The entire article is a complete fabrication.
225 posted on 12/17/2002 3:42:02 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: JMP
and just makes you look like a *looser*

Uhhhhh.....never mind.

226 posted on 12/17/2002 3:45:50 PM PST by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
JMPs a looser.

This is vey series.
227 posted on 12/17/2002 3:46:40 PM PST by johnb838
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To: rmlew
First Dr. Roberts claims victimhood status for the attackers

When did I do that?

Are you a Neo-nazi or sympathyser, an Islamist or sympathyser, or an America and Jew hating leftist? I don't have enough information to tell which yet. (Is't it sad that these groups overlap so much)

Perhaps you missed the Al-Jazeera tapes where both Bin Laden and his right-hand man, Al Zawaheeri claimed AL-Qaeda's responsibiility

Sure, that was OBL on that tape (must have had some facial bone reconstruction done).

1. Saddam was also sponsored by the USSR.
2. Who says that OBL is unimportant.

As to #1 so what? As to #2, Bush did on March 13th 2002. No, I just think for myself and look at the big picture as to who has ultimately gained and lost after 9/11. I.e...

Lost Gained
Freedoms of U.S. citizens Oil companies, smallpox vaccine companies, subsidary of Haliburton that makes the detention centers in Camp X-Ray, Carlisle

Perhaps you missed the Al-Jazeera tapes where both Bin Laden and his right-hand man, Al Zawaheeri claimed AL-Qaeda's responsibiility

Seems that OBL had some some serious facial surgery (different nose) and gained a bit of weight in that scene.

1. Saddam was also sponsored by the USSR.
2. Who says that OBL is unimportant

As to #1, so what? As to #2, Bush did on March 13th 2002.

228 posted on 12/17/2002 3:47:14 PM PST by droberts
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To: JMP
Did you believe any of the other facts reported in the Post today? The weather? Do you think they lied outright about the Jewish girl having been harassed? Did they lie about the Arab girls chanting "Jew Jew Jew!" They did, in fact, report a pattern of events leading up to the beating. You think it was pure lies? Press bias is one thing, but you are asking us to attribute malice to this reporter in what is usually a more conservative voice among NYC papers.

There is plety of press criticism on FR, so jump right in: Do YOU have any evidence the reporter is fabricating? Any pattern of previous fabrication? Freepers catch lies in the Times all the time, but they always have facts and alternative sources to back it up. Do you have any facts about THIS reporter and THIS story to suggest it isn't straightforward reporting?

If not, I'd say YOUR biases are the ones showing.

229 posted on 12/17/2002 3:48:41 PM PST by eno_
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To: montag813
Nope. She will have three abortions and adopt a black baby in her 40's like every good Jewish liberal. Meanwhile each of the Arab girls will have 10 children and raise them to hate the Jews and America.

Ewgh! You're probably right. Pardon me, I have to look for a razor blade.

230 posted on 12/17/2002 3:59:04 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady; montag813
Gee, not much different from those "good" Catholic girls, eh?
231 posted on 12/17/2002 4:01:39 PM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: rmlew
........We had a bunch of Arabs pick on a girl because whe was Jewish and one attacked her. You are belittling the incident...........
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No, I'm not belittling anything. I stated what the article said. Others have fabricated more than what was stated. I have said that I do not know what happened yet I have the same set of facts as you. You get a lot more mileage out of the same facts. An agenda?


232 posted on 12/17/2002 4:08:36 PM PST by JMP
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To: swarthyguy
.........OK, I give up.

The entire article is a complete fabrication......
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I didn't say that either.


233 posted on 12/17/2002 4:13:07 PM PST by JMP
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To: JMP
>> I don't know who attacked who. My point is that you don't know either. The article does not give you the facts to know.

You said that. I agree with you.

The article may or may not be a fabrication. The facts are hard to judge. It may have been arabs beating up a girl who may be or may not have been jewish. SHe may be an honors student but then again, maybe not. The arabs, or a group of unidentified swarthy (maybe) persons, possibly honor students, may or may not have attacked a girl calling herself a jew. The police, may or may not have arrested an individual who may be a girl or an arab (maybe) in drag.
234 posted on 12/17/2002 4:19:50 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: eno_
............Do you have any facts about THIS reporter and THIS story to suggest it isn't straightforward reporting?
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No I don't, but in the best case it is very poor reporting. I have stated earlier that it is curious that an altercation of this nature makes the news. You don't find that curious? What this article clearly states is Jew=good, Arab=bad. Maybe you believe that the article is stating Jew=bad and Arab=good. Is that what it is?
235 posted on 12/17/2002 4:27:25 PM PST by JMP
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To: joesnuffy
....the pedophile profit

Is there profit in pedophilia??

Sorry, couldn't resist. Of course you meant prophet......or did you? d;^)

236 posted on 12/17/2002 4:38:18 PM PST by Chuckster
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To: Alouette
The only thing that irritates me is the knee-jerking that goes on around here as a matter of course.
237 posted on 12/17/2002 4:58:50 PM PST by Illbay
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To: droberts
Teh British, French, and Jews gained from Peral Harbor.

It was the British, not the French who first attacked an enemy harbor with carrier borne planes with their raid on Taranto.
Using your logic, it was the British who bombed Pearl Harbor.

They probably even sunk the HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Repulse teh next day to make it look good!

238 posted on 12/17/2002 5:21:38 PM PST by rmlew
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To: JMP
No, you appear to have made judgments. Your statements are supportive of the idiots who feel opressed by teenage girls to the point they blow themselves up.

FACT1) The assailant is ARAB girl.
Fact2)The victim is a Jewish girl.
Fact3) the assailant taunted the victim repeatedly and using her ethnicity as a taunt.
Fact4)That is a hate crime.

Nope, not reading anything into it. You are.
239 posted on 12/17/2002 5:24:18 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: JMP
You said in post #163 and I quote: "1) We know the jewish young lady was an honor student. What do we know about the Arab girls academics?"

You made it an issue.
So, The arabs now feel opressed because they can't get on the honor roll?
240 posted on 12/17/2002 5:26:00 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: rmlew
No, most of the time I just called them stupid Yankee's as I boxed their ears.
241 posted on 12/17/2002 5:40:20 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
No, no, no, You're supposed to say that they're "white trash"!
242 posted on 12/17/2002 5:41:59 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: Darksheare
No, no, no, I'm from Texas, I know white trash when I see it. In Queens they are without a doubt, Yankees.
243 posted on 12/17/2002 5:44:23 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
Umm. In Queens they may not be Yankees, but hip hop ganstas...
Best dealt with by having more firepower than they do.
And more back up.
You beat them down while yelling that rap stinks.
244 posted on 12/17/2002 5:48:20 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: nypokerface
Hey, when I was about 12 or 13 and smaller than average (still am by about a 1/2 inch but with a real bad attitude) I was bullied in the school yard by a guy and a bunch of his pals. I didn't go to my teacher or my principal. When I got home I told my mom and step-dad what happened and my step-dad gave me a suggestion and said he would support me no matter what. So, the next day, with a roll of quarters in my hand, I walked up behind the bully in the hallway, tapped him on his shoulder and when he turned around, I busted his nose and knocked him flat on his ass.

I never had a problem with him or his buddies again......

And to my step-father's credit, he supported me in spite of the suspension.....

245 posted on 12/17/2002 6:03:35 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: zcat
Me, I walked into the treeline nearby, uprooted a sumac sapling and whacked the sucker with it. (i don't get sumac. He did.)
The punk never hit me with a stick again, nor did he bother me again.
246 posted on 12/17/2002 6:06:14 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: MissAmericanPie
The Problem Is, We have Forgotten the meaning of "Vermin!!"

"Vermin" Are NOT "Human!"

"Humans" are kind, Considerate, Forgiving, & Compassionate; "Vermin" are Parasitic Sociopaths!

Doc

247 posted on 12/17/2002 6:07:52 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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To: headsonpikes
The Arabs will abandon their delusions in the same manner the Germans abandoned theirs, under the foot of a conqueror.

That is the lesson of history...or, we could surrender to them; that's happened historically, also.

The Arabs need their *sses kicked, not kissed. It's in their best interests.

Think of it as 'tough love'. ;^)

I get all tingly inside when I hear such sensible proposals !

248 posted on 12/17/2002 10:56:38 PM PST by happygrl
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To: droberts
"However, if the race of victim and perpetrator were reversed, I can guarantee this story would never have been posted on FR."

You must be on drugs - every time a Jew SNEEZES in the wrong direction you and your muslim apologists post something.

Go back in your cave.
249 posted on 12/19/2002 1:19:49 PM PST by Yehuda
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To: droberts
""The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism."

PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein, March 31, 1977 "
250 posted on 12/19/2002 1:20:48 PM PST by Yehuda
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