Big Drug War News (Congressman Dan Burton on the drug war)

The Agitator ^ | 17 December 2002 | Radley Balko

[Protagoras]

I realize that you believe that is fallicy, but I'm posing a hypothetical.

You are correct, you have no magic crystal ball. And your hypothetical is goofy.

Hypothetically, if I showed you that my freedom was being threatened by your illogical wonderings and advocating the suspension of certain rights of your choosing, would you commit suicide? I mean hypothetically of course. LOL

[Texaggie79]

But it is interesting that you think that it would be OK to shoot you for not agreeing with me

Nice try. I said nothing of the sort. States may probibit an activity within their borders that they find to be too much of a threat. Dammit, I'm saying exactly what TJ is saying in that quote.

We have a right of assosiation. I do not wish to live in the same community with hard drug users. I can form a community that has such standards. This does not violate any constitutional right. My community is my state, and or county.

[MrLeRoy]

Shall I provide evidence that the sun will rise tomorrow as well?

Typical Drug Warrior style of nondebate: pull a "fact" out of your @ss and declare it 'well known.'

<yawn> Let me know when you have something of substance to say.

[poodle]

One of my favorite statements on the WOD comes from a popular reformer and author, Judge Grey. The Controlled Substance Act of 1970 governs federal drug laws and Judge Gray says that the words "controlled substance" are an oxymoron because they are anything but controlled. They are illegal and they are everywhere and the price causes 70% of all crimes according to the coverage of this hearing on Cspan.

I agree with Gary Johnson, the former Governor of New Mexico. We should legalize marijuana and shift from the criminal justice model to a harm reduction approach that recognizes drug addiction as a health matter.

[Texaggie79]

Would you call Locke socialist? HA

[headsonpikes]

"Alcohol, being legal, cannot be thrown into the mix."

So it's all about what some pack of shysters was able to slide through in various legislatures???

"We done it all nice and legal." That's the dialogue of villains, not of free men.

[Texaggie79]

Oh, so you are saying that the sane majority of adults can enjoy Meth, crack, PCP and the like in a perfectly resposible way?

[Protagoras]

I simply do not support outright full legalization of everything. RIGHTS.

There I fixed it for you. It is the same thing you know.

[Protagoras]

Oh, so you are saying that the sane majority of adults can enjoy Meth, crack, PCP and the like in a perfectly resposible way?

Trying to change the topic again I see. Oldest trick in the book.

Off topic and irrelevant, again.

[Texaggie79]

Me Kettle would do quite well on Crack is what you are saying then?

[Texaggie79]

Depends on what you define as freedom. Dahmer would have considered freedom the ability to eat those whom he loved.

[Protagoras]

Slow down, your typing is becoming erratic to the max. Take a deep breath.

[FreeTally]

Would you call Locke socialist? HA

Many of his societal and community concepts are no different than socialism. He and others just try to disguise them as being seen as such with long, hardly coherent ramblings, almost as if they were high when they wrote it.

[Texaggie79]

You missed my point. I stated that it was legal to point out the reason it is more commonly used, therefore more commonly abused. Less people use hard drugs BECAUSE they are illegal.

[Protagoras]

Depends on what you define as freedom.

Doesn't matter, it's all a matter of perception, remember? I perceive it so it's Ok as long as I can get some state to agree with me.

[Texaggie79]

You have yet to prove smoking crack next door to me is a right.

[Texaggie79]

So ANY acknowledgement that humans are social animals and are directly effected by the society around them is socialism?

[Protagoras]

It's your lucky moment of the day. I'm off to the saloon to imbibe my favorite drug.

Go throw some water on your face and put your dunce cap back on. Bye Bye for now

[PaxMacian]

One person's rights end where an other's begin and LIFE is paramount.

[MrLeRoy]

you are saying that the sane majority of adults can enjoy Meth, crack, PCP and the like in a perfectly resposible way?

I am saying you have provided no evidence to believe otherwise.