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Big Drug War News (Congressman Dan Burton on the drug war)
The Agitator ^ | 17 December 2002 | Radley Balko

Posted on 12/17/2002 9:39:06 AM PST by Joe Bonforte

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To: headsonpikes
"We done it all nice and legal." That's the dialogue of villains, not of free men.

Yep. Kind of reminds of the scene from the original "National Lampoons Vacation" where the auto mechanic in the desert tells Clark his repair bill is equal to how much money he has in his wallet. Clark says something like, "maybe I should call the law" - and the mechanic produces a sheriff's badge and says "I am the law".

461 posted on 12/18/2002 1:08:04 PM PST by FreeTally
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To: ThomasJefferson
Looking at how I am outnumbered, as usual, if I slow down to breath, I get behing by about 20 posts.
462 posted on 12/18/2002 1:08:11 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
"How is it that you fail to see that I agree with that? I simply do not support outright full legalization of everything. "

Well possibly because I have not been able to read the entire thread. Moreover, I will admit that some of the questions that you posed at the beginning of this thread were in fact thoughtful questions, but at some point your remarks seemed to deteriorate.

As for concerns about legalization of all drugs you would be correct, there are some valid issues around that topic, issues that I struggled with for some time. However there are also problems that are associated with not legalizing all drugs.

Unfortunately I don't have time to go into all of that right now, I'm having to get my daughter ready for the school Christmas show tonight, but if you would like to discuss the topic later on tonight I would be happy to do such.

463 posted on 12/18/2002 1:08:57 PM PST by Kerberos
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To: Texaggie79
Me Kettle would do quite well on Crack is what you are saying then?

What I am saying is what I said: "there is no reason to think that crack would send Ma Kettle on a killing spree."

464 posted on 12/18/2002 1:09:16 PM PST by MrLeRoy
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To: PaxMacian
So you need crack to LIVE?
465 posted on 12/18/2002 1:10:17 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: MrLeRoy
The proof is not on me pal. I have the laws I want in place already.
466 posted on 12/18/2002 1:10:53 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
So ANY acknowledgement that humans are social animals and are directly effected by the society around them is socialism?

The denial of rights based upon what someone other than the individual wants the individual to engage in is definitely a form socialism. Its a "you cant do that for the good of 'society'" scam.

467 posted on 12/18/2002 1:11:46 PM PST by FreeTally
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To: Texaggie79
that was in reference to your Dahmer post
468 posted on 12/18/2002 1:12:13 PM PST by PaxMacian
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To: Texaggie79
that was in reference to your Dahmer post
469 posted on 12/18/2002 1:12:22 PM PST by PaxMacian
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To: Texaggie79
The proof is not on me pal.

In the forum of reasoned debate, anyone who makes a claim gets the burden of providing evidence for his claim---regardless of what may be going on in the "forum" of state coercion. If you have no better argument than 'the muscle is on my side', you have lost the debate.

470 posted on 12/18/2002 1:13:30 PM PST by MrLeRoy
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To: ThomasJefferson
"The boy has retreated into the CJ/Roscoe/Dane tactics because his bizarre ideas about the states being able to do anything they want has been such a colossal failure. "

Which I was disappointed to see as some of the questions that Tex posed at the beginning of the thread were in fact thoughtful questions concerning the subject, unfortunately somewhere along the way his line of questioning seemed to deteriorated.

However as his recent post to me indicates his issue may be around legalization of all drugs as opposed to some drugs, a valid question.

471 posted on 12/18/2002 1:15:06 PM PST by Kerberos
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To: FreeTally
Not, "for the good of society", rather for my own personal safety. Be it physical, financial or social.
472 posted on 12/18/2002 1:16:33 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: MrLeRoy
Ok, I lost. But I still get the prize.
473 posted on 12/18/2002 1:17:13 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
What are "financial safety" and "social safety," and why are you allowed to use force to maintain them?
474 posted on 12/18/2002 1:17:52 PM PST by MrLeRoy
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To: Kerberos
RE-LEGALIZE
475 posted on 12/18/2002 1:18:37 PM PST by PaxMacian
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To: Texaggie79
Ok, I lost.

Manfully conceded.

But I still get the prize.

For now. But slavery disappeared because its defenders had the muscle but not the arguments; if you want your grandchildren to live in an America where "hard" drugs are illegal, you can't rely on muscle and the status quo.

476 posted on 12/18/2002 1:19:46 PM PST by MrLeRoy
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To: Texaggie79
You have yet to prove smoking crack next door to me is a right.

You have to prove it is not, not the other way around.

Anyway, it matters not now that I have the right to dispatch you according to your rules. You are a perceived threat ya know. LOL

477 posted on 12/18/2002 1:20:14 PM PST by Protagoras
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To: Texaggie79
I get behing by about 20 posts.

And we wouldn't want you to get behing. LOL

478 posted on 12/18/2002 1:22:28 PM PST by Protagoras
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To: MrLeRoy
A crack addict neighbor could do quite a bit of financial damage to my property value. The social safety of my children having to see people out on the streets that use hard drug, as well as seeing the drugs on store shelves sending the message that it is perfectly acceptable.
479 posted on 12/18/2002 1:33:11 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: ThomasJefferson
That is a "percieved" right you have.
480 posted on 12/18/2002 1:34:54 PM PST by Texaggie79
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