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ABC News Reporting Lott Says He Has Votes to Remain Leader, Will Not Step Down
ABC NEWS Radio Report ^ | December 17, 2002 | Doug Limerick

Posted on 12/17/2002 12:17:43 PM PST by ewing

No text yet, just a radio report at the end of Rush's show.

Must be worried about the Russert report this morning that he is 'Far' from the 26 votes needed for a Senate Caucus victory.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: abcnews; defiance; lott; senatevote; showdown
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To: Rome2000
I think between last nights BET performance by Lott, AND today's fallout.....Lott's out....no matter what. Good riddance.
51 posted on 12/17/2002 12:37:13 PM PST by goodnesswins
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To: Howlin
Hi, Howlin. That this should happen under this president's watch. President Bush has reached out to Hispanic and African American minorities more than any other president. It's such a shame I could cry. The Senate needs to conference call immediately and release a statement; waiting until January 6th is unacceptable. Hugs to you today, my friend.
52 posted on 12/17/2002 12:37:16 PM PST by Peach
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To: Kerberos
That can't be good news. The only reason that Jesse Jackson would be standing up for Lott would be if there was something in it for Jesse Jackson.

I just posted this on another thread. Please accept this as my answer to you.

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I really do agree with you that the concept of Republicans eating their own is despicable.  And as proof of that, I would like to remind you that this is the exact reason why we despise Trent Lott in the first place!  It's not "sanctimonious" to see someone for what he really is -- a useless piece of flesh-eating bacteria who will eat his own for the right price. 

Trent Lott  turned his back on the House Republicans (and thus on us -- on you and me) back in 1998.  He did it again a few months ago by letting Dashole tell him that "power sharing" would be the order of the day.  He's a political whore.  He always has been and always will be.  Chester is not and never has been worth defending.  Like it or not, the fact that the Dems are using race-baiting slander tactics does not change that fact. 

If it had been anyone but Chester Lott, I would have been standing right behind you hollering about the stupidity of allowing the Dems to use Racial Railroading as a political tactic.   And I understand everyone's defense of Lott; this hypocritical railroading is pathetic and has the potential for setting dangerous precedents if the Republicans allow it to continue after Lott is no longer Leader.  

But IMHO, you're looking at this from a negative viewpoint.  The glass is not half empty -- it's half full.  We can and should use this to our advantage.  Lott has already done the damage.  We can't undo that damage.  He dug his own grave by not immediately apologizing and then shutting up.  In typical Lott fashion, he let 5 or 6 days go by without apologizing for the well-meaning but insensitive remark.    Lott is so mentally-challenged that every time he opens his mouth, he compounds his situation. We cannot change that.

Nor can we change the fact that Lott is and always has been a bonafide "useful idiot" for the Democrats, who have no qualms about paying him off or blackmailing him, whichever the case may be.

But this time they've overplayed their hand.  The race-baiting Dems have allowed their feelings and emotions to override their brain and have given us a chance to put someone in charge who isn't testosterone-challenged.  I guarantee you that Carville and other Dems who are capable of rational thought are desperately sending out the faxes, telling their cohorts to back off now so they won't lose their whipping boy.  But it's too late.  They've dealt us a potentially-winning hand and it's too late for them to take their cards back.

All we have to do now is make sure the Senate knows that we will not accept another blackmailable, testosterone-challenged wimp in the Leader position.  Because once a new Leader is in place, that Leader must go on the offensive and educate the sheeple with a class on Racial Railroading 101.  The new Leader must take this mind-numbingly hypocritical racial issue away from the Democrats and cram it down their throats.

53 posted on 12/17/2002 12:37:22 PM PST by Nita Nuprez
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To: dfwgator; Mo1; Cyber Liberty; Dog
Lott Says He Has Votes to Remain Leader

Then surely he won't mind if we CALL THE VOTE right now, will he?

54 posted on 12/17/2002 12:37:32 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Mixer
However, if he is right then what does that say for smith288? ; )

I have less faith in the GOP than I thought and I was wrong. :)

55 posted on 12/17/2002 12:37:56 PM PST by smith288
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To: Howlin
Lanny Davis is now defending Lott!

Lanny says...he's a man of integrity and character.

56 posted on 12/17/2002 12:37:59 PM PST by Wphile
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To: Timesink
Sweet.
57 posted on 12/17/2002 12:38:06 PM PST by Howlin
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To: oldcomputerguy
That's already bean floated...

Although I hated to see him Borked for stupid remark (aka mountain out of molehill) I think he should go.

I thought he should go before, I just hated to see it done this way.

Although many of us here do not like the spineless jellyfish Lott, it is not good to let democraps do this to the speaker.

They are going to do it again to the NEXT speaker.
58 posted on 12/17/2002 12:38:07 PM PST by Mr. K
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To: concerned about politics
"Lott should stay , but not as leader right now. He's a beaten dog. Now he's anti-white . "

I know I was watching the capitulations earlier on this morning but quit around 10 am as they were making me too ill.

59 posted on 12/17/2002 12:38:27 PM PST by Kerberos
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To: Wphile
OHHHH...sheesh....this is unreal, but so transparent.
60 posted on 12/17/2002 12:38:48 PM PST by goodnesswins
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To: Wphile
I may have to step away from the computer for a bit. I wasn't this mad at Clinton -- EVER.
61 posted on 12/17/2002 12:38:51 PM PST by Howlin
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To: dfwgator
When the Rats were calling for Lott's head, they expected the GOP to rally around Lott. When that didn't happen, and they saw signs that Bush was willing to jettison Lott, they changed their tune.

That would be my guess .. this should be interesting to watch .. The Rats stick up for a Republican .. bizarre

62 posted on 12/17/2002 12:40:02 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Dog
The rats have Lott by the testicles and they know that when they want a favor they just have to use the racial twist. OUCH </high pitch voice>
63 posted on 12/17/2002 12:40:10 PM PST by The_Victor
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To: Howlin

AL 2K4!


64 posted on 12/17/2002 12:40:14 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Howlin
I'll second that....
65 posted on 12/17/2002 12:40:27 PM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: Timesink
You remembered! He's my man! :-)
66 posted on 12/17/2002 12:40:39 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Nita Nuprez
Political overkill for a thought crime is not the way to go. All of you who feel morally superior to Sen Lott should ask yourself: Have you ever said something terribly wrong? Have you ever had racist thoughts? Have you ever said anything racist? Oh, by the way how do you define racist? Is it a permanent condition or one dependent on time and circumstances?

Firing Trent Lott will not solve one problem, not garner any more votes from the African-Americans nor make you feel really great about yourself more than a few moments.

67 posted on 12/17/2002 12:40:54 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: Wphile
Lanny Davis is now defending Lott!

OMG .. are you serious .. what channel

68 posted on 12/17/2002 12:41:06 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Mr. K
They are going to do it again to the NEXT speaker.

The can't do it to somebody who doesn't hand them the GUN, can they?

69 posted on 12/17/2002 12:41:32 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Can you believe this is really happening? I still can't. Griminy...just one month ago, I was walking on cloud nine over our victories in the election. Now, I'm pissed and bordering on despondent.
70 posted on 12/17/2002 12:42:00 PM PST by Wphile
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To: goodnesswins
OHHHH...sheesh....this is unreal, but so transparent.

Yup. If they "win," Lott will quit the Senate, they'll end up 50-50 again, and will once again be blamable for gridlock in the '04 elections. They want to be able to sit back and say "Hey, we have no power whatsoever, it's all THEIR fault!"

Ideological bankruptcy creates strange bedfellows.

71 posted on 12/17/2002 12:42:13 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Mo1
He's on the Hannity show. I'm getting it on WMAL in D.C.

By the way, I was thinking Byrd's position as chairman or ranking member of the Appropriations Committee was at high risk. With this turn of events, I guess he will keep it.

72 posted on 12/17/2002 12:42:19 PM PST by aristeides
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To: dfwgator
They made abd guess, and they want to keep him in, because he has been rocked back and will give when Daschle so much as twitches. But if Lott is gone, and someone like Frist (who kicked butt as head of the NRSC in 2002) is in, then they have a problem.

They overcommitted, and now the play's going the other way. They got surprised that the GOP actually had standards of decency, and now, they need to scramble to play serious catch-up.
73 posted on 12/17/2002 12:42:20 PM PST by hchutch
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To: shrinkermd
"Firing Trent Lott will not solve one problem, not garner any more votes from the African-Americans nor make you feel really great about yourself more than a few moments."

Wrong, wrong, wrong. And, by the way, wrong. And wrong.

Breathtaking. I have never seen so much wrong in such a short sentence.

74 posted on 12/17/2002 12:42:27 PM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: Wphile
Just called my Republican Senator. His office is receiving numerous calls. They are making a tally. Keep Lott as ML or get rid of him. The calls are not pro-Lott. I asked that the republican caucus meet (this) year and do its work. They should have gotten rid of Lott years ago. It was the East Coast moderate so-called republicans that kept him in office. He was an incompetent years ago, I always shuddered when I heard him speak. Never to know what kind of stupid remark would come out of his mouth.
75 posted on 12/17/2002 12:42:35 PM PST by brydic1
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To: Nita Nuprez
In typical Lott fashion, he let 5 or 6 days go by without apologizing for the well-meaning but insensitive remark.

What Lott should have done is to have a quick press conference and said "I am not a racist, and I will not answer any more questions on what I said, end of story." But the fact that he feels so compelled to explain himself over and over again, suggests to me that indeed maybe deep down he does harbor those racist thoughts. Then again Lott is such a political whore that it is dang near impossible to know what the guy truly believes.

76 posted on 12/17/2002 12:42:36 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Wphile; Mo1
We have entered an alternate universe.
77 posted on 12/17/2002 12:42:50 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Mo1
On Sean Hannity's radio show. Says he thinks Lott can still redeem himself and keep the SML position.
78 posted on 12/17/2002 12:42:53 PM PST by Wphile
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To: shrinkermd
Political overkill for a thought crime is not the way to go. All of you who feel morally superior to Sen Lott should ask yourself: Have you ever said something terribly wrong? Have you ever had racist thoughts? Have you ever said anything racist? Oh, by the way how do you define racist? Is it a permanent condition or one dependent on time and circumstances?

Firing Trent Lott will not solve one problem, not garner any more votes from the African-Americans nor make you feel really great about yourself more than a few moments.


I gave him the benefit of the doubt before yesterday...then he went and sold us all out. Im more than peeved at Lott. Sin or no sin, I cant accept him as the Republican leader of the Senate
80 posted on 12/17/2002 12:43:21 PM PST by smith288
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To: Nita Nuprez
Come on Nita, tell me how you really feel.

btw - great post.

81 posted on 12/17/2002 12:43:53 PM PST by Kerberos
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To: Howlin
Howlin, is there an e-mail address to Racicot that's available for me to send a similar e-mail? My husband and I were saying the same thing in the car when we went out to buy that gift I told you about. Additionally, I'd like the GOP to use the stats below in fighting this thing. The indoctrination in the press and by the DNC has been successful and we need to fight back.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 were signed into law under a Democratic President. However, it was the Republicans in Congress who made possible the passage of these Acts, for even though the Democrats controlled both Houses by wide margins, they still could not garner enough of their own votes to pass the bills. In fact, in the House, only 61% of the Democrats voted for the Civil Rights Act (152 for, 96 against) while 80% of Republicans voted for it (138 for, 38 against). In the Senate, only 69% of Democrats voted for the Act (46 for, 21 against) while 82% of Republicans did (27 for, 6 against). The passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 would not have been possible without the strong, cohesive support of the Republicans. In fact, all Southern Democrats voted against the Civil Rights Act, including Sen. Al Gore, Sr., who voted with the Southern Democrats against civil rights whenever the occasion arose. Around 1890, Democrats instituted what became known as "white primaries" to keep blacks from being placed on the ballot. Democrats also developed poll taxes to keep blacks from voting. It was not until 1966 that the poll tax was ended, and it had only been in 1944 that the "white primaries" had finally ceased. Significantly, it was not Democrats, but the Republicans, who had long championed the repeal of the poll tax. The Republican platform declared: "We demand that every citizen of the United States shall be allowed to cast one free and unrestricted ballot, and that such ballot shall be counted and returned as cast." Three African-Americans have presided over Republican National Conventions, while only one, Yvonne Brathwaite Burke in 1972, has made it as high as Vice-Chair - not even Co-Chair - of a Democratic National Convention. In 1966, Republican Edward William Brooke III of Massachusetts became the first black to be elected to the U.S. Senate by popular vote. Today, in 2001, there are 39 black Members of Congress: one Republican and thirty-eight Democrats. The black Republican (one of 271 combined Republicans in the House and the Senate) was elected by his Republican peers to a position of Republican leadership in this Congress; but of the thirty-eight black Democrats (from among the 262 combined Democrats in the House and the Senate), none was elected by his Democratic peers to any leadership position. Black media personality R.D. Davis of Alabama correctly observes, "History tends to unilaterally and falsely depict Republicans as racists when Democrats truly deserved this title."

82 posted on 12/17/2002 12:44:02 PM PST by Peach
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To: Howlin
Then surely he won't mind if we CALL THE VOTE right now, will he?

Something tell me .. he plays a bad game of bluff

83 posted on 12/17/2002 12:44:06 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Howlin; Mo1; goodnesswins
Lanny Davis praised his performance on BET last night! GOOD LORD!
84 posted on 12/17/2002 12:44:09 PM PST by Wphile
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To: Howlin
The can't do it to somebody who doesn't hand them the GUN, can they?

Amen, brother!!!

85 posted on 12/17/2002 12:44:15 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Howlin; Lizzy W
Someone had a photo of Al Sharpton getting the full beauty treatment....under the hair dryer.

I think it was LizzyW.......hey lizzy post the Sharpton getting the works.

86 posted on 12/17/2002 12:44:20 PM PST by Dog
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To: spectre
I am very suprised Jackson talked to FoxNews. What did they do, lasso and hogtie him? Usually he flees like a roach when the lights come on whenever Fox is around.
87 posted on 12/17/2002 12:44:24 PM PST by RabidBartender
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To: Wphile
After last night .. not a chance ..
88 posted on 12/17/2002 12:44:52 PM PST by Mo1
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To: brydic1
Just called my Republican Senator.

Good for you! Wish I could do the same. I don't have a Republican Senator. Sigh.

89 posted on 12/17/2002 12:45:13 PM PST by Wphile
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To: Mo1
Lanny Davis is now defending Lott!

Geez, this was so predictable. Of course when the GOP appears to be leaning towards dumping Lott, of course the Rats were going to do a 180, and start defending him. God, the Rats are so predictable.

90 posted on 12/17/2002 12:45:46 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Mr. K
I had your same thoughts until I heard the remarks he made on BET last night. When he said that white people in the South really didn't know who and what Martin Luther King stood for I almost puked in the car. Okay, maybe HE didn't but don't going labeling the whole south in that picture. Thanks a lot Lott.
91 posted on 12/17/2002 12:46:12 PM PST by TXBubba
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To: Dog
I can only make out every three words Jesse is saying..

I always activate the closed caption feature on my tv when Jackson is talking........absolutely hysterical to see the gibberish that the poor soul that's responsible for typing the text of Jackson's spewage eventually puts up on the screen.

92 posted on 12/17/2002 12:46:13 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: dfwgator
The first statement he issued was on Monday of last week, four days after the party. It was short, two sentences, and it took the view that the statement was no big deal. Just the sort of thing I take it you think he should have issued. A lot of people -- including people here -- crucified him for that statement. I'm sure he would have let it go at that if people weren't crucifying him.
93 posted on 12/17/2002 12:46:41 PM PST by aristeides
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To: RabidBartender
You should have seen the end of the interview when Shep mentioned OReilly.....the look on Jesse's mug was priceless.
94 posted on 12/17/2002 12:46:42 PM PST by Dog
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To: Nita Nuprez
The new Leader must take this mind-numbingly hypocritical racial issue away from the Democrats and cram it down their throats.

You got that right. And I intend to tell the GOP exactly that. THey can start by educating the public to the points in my post to Howlin, think it's #82, re the Civil Rights Act and who voted how.

95 posted on 12/17/2002 12:46:56 PM PST by Peach
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To: goodnesswins
Well, sounds like the "TALKING POINTS FAX" has gone out....and Jesse is following it....

LOL. Exactly.

96 posted on 12/17/2002 12:47:10 PM PST by Nita Nuprez
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To: ewing
A Party that is stupid enough to allow an incompetent such as Trent Lott to hold any position of leadership deserves to lose. There is a lot of negative talk here about the Libertarians, but they are looking like an attractive alternative.
97 posted on 12/17/2002 12:47:15 PM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: Peach
Amen Peach!

President Bush needs to get out there and explain the truth about the Republican party and civil rights. How the democrats were able to turn this issue for them and against the Republicans has been extraordinary.

98 posted on 12/17/2002 12:47:17 PM PST by Wphile
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To: Nita Nuprez
Jesse Jackson is on Fox News taking up for Lott.

Yet another bad sign. When Jesse Jackson is on your side, watch your back and make sure you still have your wallet.

99 posted on 12/17/2002 12:47:58 PM PST by mhking
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To: goodnesswins; Nita Nuprez
I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard the word "code" this very week.
100 posted on 12/17/2002 12:48:25 PM PST by Howlin
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