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Let's Organize to Oust Patty Murray
Seattle Times ^ | Kate in Palo Alto

Posted on 12/21/2002 7:56:42 AM PST by Kate in Palo Alto

WASHINGTON — In a lunchtime discussion this week, Sen. Patty Murray told a group of high-school students to think about how Osama bin Laden's generosity to the poor may have helped him win support around the world.


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I assume you've all read about Patty Murray's traitorous remarks. If not, go to:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/134600355_murray21m.html

We CAN do something. Let's organize. Let's tell the Seattle newspaper what we all think of Murray's remarks. She's a traitor, no less. We are at war, and that fool supports the enemy. I think she should resign her Senate seat. I wrote a note to the Seattle newspaper suggesting that she resign.

If you feel so inclined, maybe you can send a letter demanding her resignation, too. The e-mail address is: opinion@seattletimes.com

Be sure to include your name, address, and phone #.

1 posted on 12/21/2002 7:56:42 AM PST by Kate in Palo Alto
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
Better yet, write up a petition and post it here on FR.
2 posted on 12/21/2002 7:58:39 AM PST by Sparta
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
Is she a Republican or DemocRAT? How any Senator can put the "scum of the earth" on a pedestal is beyond me!
3 posted on 12/21/2002 7:58:46 AM PST by SheLion
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To: Sparta
I'm not sure about a petition. Let's toss it around. I guess I thought personal letters from TONS of people would be more effective.
4 posted on 12/21/2002 8:02:39 AM PST by Kate in Palo Alto
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
My letter just sent:

Dear Sirs, "WASHINGTON — In a lunchtime discussion this week, Sen. Patty Murray told a group of high-school students to think about how Osama bin Laden's generosity to the poor may have helped him win support around the world."

How a Senator can put the "scum of the earth" on a pedestal is beyond me! She is a traitor and should be booted out of office!

Yes, news does come to Maine!

Sincerely,

5 posted on 12/21/2002 8:03:31 AM PST by SheLion
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To: SheLion
SheLion, Patty Murray is a Democrat. She was elected some years ago in Washington as "the Mom in Tennis Shoes." She's a frightening woman.
6 posted on 12/21/2002 8:03:46 AM PST by Kate in Palo Alto
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To: SheLion
She is a rat!
7 posted on 12/21/2002 8:04:17 AM PST by KevinDavis
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To: SheLion
Is she a Republican or DemocRAT
 
Well, since she praised OBL for building "schools" (terrorist training camps), hospitals, and "Day care centers"(???  For the busy working women in the muslim world???) and said we hadn't given enough aid to the dusky hued, I think you can draw the logical conclusion.

Owl_Eagle

"Unleash the Hogs of Peace."
P.J. O'Rourke Parliament of Whores


8 posted on 12/21/2002 8:04:41 AM PST by South Hawthorne
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
She's a frightening woman.

Even MORE so, NOW! Boy, this is mind boggling. Where DO they find these people! I guess her constituents feel the same as her??!!

9 posted on 12/21/2002 8:05:02 AM PST by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Thanks, SheLion. That was terrific.

I'd love to see Murray answer for her outrageous comments. In another time, she would have been forced to resign instantly.

We CAN do this. It takes time, but it's the kind of action Freepers do well.
10 posted on 12/21/2002 8:05:31 AM PST by Kate in Palo Alto
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To: Owl_Eagle
These jerks are like the Ever Ready Bunny. Just keep on going. I sure can't figure out how they continually get elected time-after-time.

And her constituents actually go along with this?

11 posted on 12/21/2002 8:06:30 AM PST by SheLion
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To: Owl_Eagle
Owl_Eagle, I hope you'll let the newspaper know how you feel. Thanks.
12 posted on 12/21/2002 8:06:44 AM PST by Kate in Palo Alto
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
She is backtracking--trying to extract her foot from her mouth. This is from her Senate website. Notice the date.



Sen. Murray Statement on America's Role in the World

Having a challenging and thoughtful discussion about America's future reflects the best values of a free democracy;

To sensationalize and distort in an attempt to divide does not

For Immediate Release: December 20, 2002

Osama Bin Laden is an evil terrorist who is responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans. Bringing him to justice, dismantling his terrorist network, and protecting our nation from further attacks must continue to be our government's highest priorities, and I continue to vigorously support those efforts in the Senate.

While we continue to search every corner of the globe to destroy Osama bin Laden and his al Quaeda network, should we also consider the longer-term issue of what else can be done to improve relations with all nations including the Arab world?

How else can we bring America's values to those who do not understand us?

And while there are some whose hearts and minds may never be won, should we try to reach those who can?

The White House believes that we can do more, and has devoted an entire department to improving America's image in the Arab world.

Having a challenging and thoughtful discussion about America's future reflects the best values of a free democracy; to sensationalize and distort in an attempt to divide does not.

While there are some on the extreme fringes of society who try to exploit fear and uncertainty for political gain, there are many more who understand that the best value of our democracy is the freedom to think and to secure a better future.

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13 posted on 12/21/2002 8:06:56 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
I went to http://www.wsrp.org/ last night to donate. This sorry excuse for a senator has got to go. Got a free bumper sticker and button, too!
15 posted on 12/21/2002 8:07:53 AM PST by chnsmok
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
We CAN do this. It takes time, but it's the kind of action Freepers do well.

SOMETHING needs to be done. "They" say they always want to hear from us. Well, they have to hear the bad along with the good. I'm tired of this. They get voted into office, then do their own thing, regardless of what the people want. I see it over and over.

16 posted on 12/21/2002 8:07:53 AM PST by SheLion
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To: KevinDavis
KevinDavis, please write to the newspaper and offer your opinion. We need LOTS of support from all parts of the country.

We can do this, folks.
17 posted on 12/21/2002 8:08:07 AM PST by Kate in Palo Alto
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
She was elected some years ago in Washington as "the Mom in Tennis Shoes."
 
I'd thought Patty Murray was a lesbian due to her extensive work with the sodomite community.  Was I off base here?
Owl_Eagle

"Unleash the Hogs of Peace."
P.J. O'Rourke Parliament of Whores


18 posted on 12/21/2002 8:08:54 AM PST by South Hawthorne
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To: TomGuy
What a two-faced witch!

That's not what I meant but that's what I said. heh!

19 posted on 12/21/2002 8:08:55 AM PST by SheLion
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To: TomGuy
TomGuy, she sure is backtracking. Too bad it won't work. It shouldn't work. There's just no excuse for her comments.
20 posted on 12/21/2002 8:09:27 AM PST by Kate in Palo Alto
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To: dollylolly
DollyLolly, this is WAY worse than Lott's remarks. She is aiding and supporting a known enemy of the U.S. This makes her a traitor. Please write to the Seattle paper if you feel so inclined.
21 posted on 12/21/2002 8:10:53 AM PST by Kate in Palo Alto
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To: SheLion
Frightening? No, frighteningly stupid!
22 posted on 12/21/2002 8:11:23 AM PST by laconic
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To: SheLion
SheLion, you are so right. Maybe you can send a note to other like-minded people. Let's get a grass-roots effort going.
23 posted on 12/21/2002 8:12:18 AM PST by Kate in Palo Alto
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To: Owl_Eagle
Owl_Eagle, I don't know a thing about that. I only know she has shown herself to be a traitor.
24 posted on 12/21/2002 8:13:20 AM PST by Kate in Palo Alto
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To: SheLion
Her statement was the equivalent of someone during World War II going around talking about Hitler's "good deeds". You know, he really helped the German economy and has built lots of new roads and hospitals and has even established a youth corps for young people. Why, just imagine if our politicians spent more time doing positive things like those instead of gearing up for war!

Patty Murray is an IDIOT! I feel sorry for the good people in the vast geographic expanses of Eastern and Central Washington who have to put up with that nitwit as their Senator, thanks to the huge majorities she rolls up in Seattle and among "soccer moms" in the Seattle suburbs.
25 posted on 12/21/2002 8:13:52 AM PST by puroresu
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
Maybe you can send a note to other like-minded people. Let's get a grass-roots effort going.

I'm trying to figure out who I know up there. Is there a Freeper Ping List for WA?

26 posted on 12/21/2002 8:14:03 AM PST by SheLion
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To: SheLion
I'm with you here! I'm writing a letter to the editor this weekend, and making calls to my Representatives on Monday!

This woman should step down!

27 posted on 12/21/2002 8:14:38 AM PST by joyful1
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To: joyful1
Thank you, joyfull. You are terrific. This is what we need to do. Mention it to your friends. We can't sit quietly and let this traitor remain in office.
28 posted on 12/21/2002 8:16:09 AM PST by Kate in Palo Alto
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
It's time to return Washington State to the Republican column.
29 posted on 12/21/2002 8:16:13 AM PST by Diver Dave
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To: joyful1
This woman should step down!

Pass the word to all you know that might help out.

But, you know she will just whine and get her way. It's pretty hard to recall a Senator. But a lot of heat should be put on her. And your right! Her remark was a LOT worse then Lott's! Maybe she CAN be forced to step down!

30 posted on 12/21/2002 8:16:32 AM PST by SheLion
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
Patty Murray obviously not only knows nothing, she suspects nothing.
The US has built roads, dug wells and rebuilt war torn parts of the world, while never asking for a nickle in return. Obviously, she knows little of American history from 1945...(not to mention her awful glorification of OBL)
31 posted on 12/21/2002 8:18:06 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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Diver Dave, we can't let her get away with this. It's beyond ALL reasonable bounds. Time for her to go! Now!
32 posted on 12/21/2002 8:18:32 AM PST by Kate in Palo Alto
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
Other things people can do:
  1. Write your U.S. Representative, asking him or her to speak on the floor of the House about this outrage
  2. Write to your local media/columnists, informing them about her comments and how it is making people feel outraged across the country
  3. Write to your Senators, demanding that she be censured!

33 posted on 12/21/2002 8:19:48 AM PST by B Knotts
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Eric in the Ozarks, will you write to the editor and mention those points? They are all right. We do so much. Murray doesn't seem to know her history.

Let's dump her.
34 posted on 12/21/2002 8:19:57 AM PST by Kate in Palo Alto
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
I'm also emailing the newspapers in the chicago area.
35 posted on 12/21/2002 8:20:12 AM PST by KevinDavis
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To: B Knotts
B Knotts,

YES!!! YES!!! Those are MARVELOUS ideas. I found a list of newspapers from across America:

http://www.abyznewslinks.com/unite.htm
36 posted on 12/21/2002 8:22:53 AM PST by Kate in Palo Alto
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
From the article:

"What is important is that we have to have thoughtful debates and discussions in this country and raise questions and answer them without being pulled into some right-wing media frenzy," Murray said. "That is truly frightening to me.

Maybe we should let her know how it feels to be Trent Lott. Her comments about bin Laden could have been, and probably were, made by idiot left-wing politicians in the 1930's praising what Hitler had done for the people of Germany. What is truly frightening is that this woman is a Senator speaking about a terrorist leader who attacked our country as if he were a great humanitarian.

37 posted on 12/21/2002 8:23:00 AM PST by eggman
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
Currently pending approval by Congress: George McGovern-Robert Dole International Food for Education and Child Nutrition Act of 2001.

The legislation builds on McGovern's work with the WFP, which fed over 12 million school children in 54 countries in 2000. McGovern was named U.S. Ambassador to the WFP in 1998.

Today, there are approximately 800 million people suffering from chronic hunger in the world, including 300 million children. A great deal of the problem is due not to food shortages, but to corrupt governments and inadequate infrastructure. But the WFP has “some tough-minded individuals” intent on solving those problems, according to McGovern.

The program also goes a long way toward building U.S. markets. In 2001 alone, the United States donated almost 2 million metric tons of foodstuffs to hungry people around the world, including 55,000 metric tons of rice, a million metric tons of wheat and 470,000 metric tons of corn.

Pending legislation would commit the U.S. government to spend an additional $750 million to provide school meals for the world's poor children. Rice, milk and corn and wheat products would be on the menu. U.S. producers would supply a large portion of it. And of course, we would also be reducing any oversupply of agricultural commodities.

McGovern stresses that the effort “is not a permanent gift from the outside world. It's to show these poor countries how they can set up and effectively operate a child-feeding program, school lunch or whatever.

“If they'll set up a good nutritious school lunch program, these kids will come to school if for no other reason than the parents making sure they do because it takes some pressure off the food budget at home.”

McGovern stresses that one good turn should deserve another. “Every country that has elevated its development and improved its productivity becomes better commercial customers of the United States,” McGovern said. “Japan comes to mind as a classic example of that. Americans probably aren't aware that right after the war, we shipped a lot of food to Japan, to their schools.

“We did a lot to get the Japanese back into the global economy. It may have cost us our automobile market. At the same time, Americans benefited enormously. I suspect that one reason why the economy is as sluggish as it is right now is because Japan and the Asian countries haven't been doing well the past 10 years.

“It's easy to demonstrate that we build markets for the future when we help increase health of another country,” McGovern said. “However, at the same time that we are pressing for more market opportunities for ourselves, we make it difficult for these developing countries to sell into our markets. We have to change that.”

McGovern also stresses that food distribution to underdeveloped countries could perhaps even stave off terrorism.

“All of us were shocked by the attack on the World Trade Center. Why is it that a wealthy zealot like Osama bin Laden can go through the back country of Afghanistan and Pakistan and the slums of Cairo and recruit tens of thousands of young men who hate us so fervently that they are willing to give their lives to take a swing at us. I don't think our national policymakers are asking that question with enough intensity.

“I don't know if killing Osama bin Laden is the answer to the hopelessness that seems to have taken over in parts of the world. That's another reason why I'm for a universal school lunch program to help relieve some of the fury and the hopelessness.”

When asked about the cost of feeding the world versus letting poor countries fend for themselves, McGovern took a different approach. “Hungry people are a drag on the economy. They have less production of their own, less income to spend on what other producing countries have to sell and it has the effect of taking $16 billion (annually according to recent research) out of our pockets.

“On the other hand, the highest estimates for feeding all of the world's hungry is around $10 billion a year.”

Feeding world's hungry builds markets By Elton Robinson Farm Press Editorial Staff Delta Farm Press, Sep 6, 2002

38 posted on 12/21/2002 8:24:57 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
When does she come up for re-election? How well did she do in her most recent run (i.e. was it close)? It won't be easy to get her out before her term ends (she's not a Republican).
39 posted on 12/21/2002 8:26:07 AM PST by AlienCrossfirePlayer
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To: eggman
Lott finally did the right thing. Maybe you are right in thinking Murray ought to feel the same heat.

B. Knotts has a great idea. Let's let our own local congressmen and newspapers know how we feel. I'm betting there isn't a lot of coverage (about Murray's remarks) around the nation. I guess we can tell people.
40 posted on 12/21/2002 8:26:11 AM PST by Kate in Palo Alto
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
Putting specific instances and personal biases, can anyone name any member of the House or Senate who day in and day out is more intellectually challenged than Patty Murray?

I believe, if we could conduct and publish a nationwide poll asking this question, the publication would be far more effective and even more so if she remained if office.

41 posted on 12/21/2002 8:26:31 AM PST by monocle
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To: SheLion
Not only is she putting on a pedestal, she's putting him in front of American citizenry who through our foreign aid tax dollars and private charitable contributions support much of the world's people!
42 posted on 12/21/2002 8:27:27 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: fight_truth_decay
Yeah, uh-huh, a universal lunch program ought to solve everything (LOL).
43 posted on 12/21/2002 8:28:11 AM PST by Kate in Palo Alto
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
People can use Project Vote Smart to find out who their elected representatives are, and how to contact them.

You just put in your ZIP+4 in the left-hand column and click "GO", and a clickable list of your elected representatives will appear, with full contact information within each link.

While we might have a hard time getting the media to do a Trent Lott on her sorry rear, we might have a better chance shaming our Senators into censuring her comments.

44 posted on 12/21/2002 8:29:47 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts
Also, a hand-written letter is most effective.

After that, a typed letter; after that, a fax, and least effective of all is email.

45 posted on 12/21/2002 8:31:12 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: monocle
Monacle . . . . hmmm. I guess there are a few Represenmtatives who seem to me to be so dumb that if their IQs were five points lower, someone would have to water them twice a week.

46 posted on 12/21/2002 8:31:35 AM PST by Kate in Palo Alto
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To: B Knotts
I agree that we don't have the media behind us. No, they won't starty doing a Trent Lott on her, but I think we can raise a stink and SOMEONE will listen.
47 posted on 12/21/2002 8:34:15 AM PST by Kate in Palo Alto
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
If you start a ping list, please put me on it,and if you start petition, please let me know. The State of Washington is riddled with fifth columnists. Remember McDermott?
48 posted on 12/21/2002 8:36:30 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
You have to understand, first of all, that for Patty Murray, the Republicans are the enemy, and anybody that irritates or confronts the Republicans becomes, automatically, your ally. Any future disagreements that may come up between Patty Murray (and others of like mind) with al-Qaeda, can be resolved at that time, but for now, both the Democrat minority and al-Qaeda have the same objective - to see George W. Bush humbled.

49 posted on 12/21/2002 8:43:50 AM PST by alloysteel
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To: Kate in Palo Alto
Are there any good Republican candidates who might take her on now that she's seen as possibly vulnerable?
50 posted on 12/21/2002 8:51:45 AM PST by Ligeia
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