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Free Speech at a Crossroads (Trent Lott)
NewsMax ^ | Dec. 20, 2002 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 12/21/2002 4:00:13 PM PST by Michael2001

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To: Fred Mertz
If you don't think they will you don't know Bush at all...
41 posted on 12/21/2002 5:48:36 PM PST by marajade
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To: gcruse
A FLAMING Liberal. LOL
42 posted on 12/21/2002 5:53:45 PM PST by VRWC For Truth
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
I agree with you. Lott was foolish to say what he did, and I believe that his departure was necessary, not because of the content of his remarks, but because he exhibited poor judgement, something a 'leader' must not do. Never liked the guy anyway; he let Clinton off as far as I'm concerned, and for that reason alone I'm glad Lott is gone.

That said, I believe Paul Craig Roberts was 100% right on the mark with this article. Just about every post on this thread disagrees with Roberts' premise, but you are all wrong. You're letting your inherent dislike of Lott keep you from approaching this issue with logic. Lott was targeted by the left because of SOMETHING HE SAID. That should trouble all of us; who here can honestly say that they have not, at one time or another, made a foolish racial statement, in jest or not? I know I have.

Everyone is human. Everyone says stupid things which they would not like others to dwell on. Just think if this comment would have been made by Bob Barr or another of our conservative heroes. Would you all have screamed for their heads?

What's done is done. Lott is gone and we are better off for it. But as Roberts warned, be ready for the next liberal target of character assassination. The next time it may be someone we want to have hang around for awhile....

43 posted on 12/21/2002 6:00:53 PM PST by yooper
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To: Howlin
Re: Your link.

LOL...I remember you asking him the exact same thing 2 years ago!

44 posted on 12/21/2002 6:02:33 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: yooper
the onset of thought control

45 posted on 12/21/2002 8:16:44 PM PST by StriperSniper
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
Do you think Lott is racist?
46 posted on 12/21/2002 8:35:49 PM PST by Michael2001
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To: Yaelle
So if Bush were to say that Washington was a great president that would be racist too?
47 posted on 12/21/2002 8:42:48 PM PST by Michael2001
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To: yooper
That said, I believe Paul Craig Roberts was 100% right on the mark with this article. Just about every post on this thread disagrees with Roberts' premise, but you are all wrong. You're letting your inherent dislike of Lott keep you from approaching this issue with logic. Lott was targeted by the left because of SOMETHING HE SAID. That should trouble all of us; who here can honestly say that they have not, at one time or another, made a foolish racial statement, in jest or not? I know I have.

SOMETHING HE SAID ? What the GOP Senate Majority Leader said is that he is sorry the segregationists lost. He is sorry that "those people" were not smashed when they had the chance. When someone of senior leadership in the GOP takes this as a position there most definitely should be massive consequences to his career.

Gee, yooper, I'm sorry you feel so persecuted by having to watch what you say about "those people". Not like the good old days.

48 posted on 12/21/2002 9:44:06 PM PST by Tokhtamish
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To: Fred Mertz
No
49 posted on 12/22/2002 5:15:54 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Michael2001
Do you think Lott is racist?

I'll take the same, probably cowardly, stance that other conservative commentators have in answering this question: I have no idea what's in Trent Lott's heart. The fact (that came out) that he had made this same remark a number of times before troubled me. I can understand that this was perhaps just "joviality" and a "routine" that Trent had gotten into the habit of saying around Strom, but I can't imagine a guy in such an important leadership position allowing such a phrase come out in 2002. I would have been ashamed of any Republican uttering such a remark in 1980.

I don't believe the Republican Party is racist. I don't believe we have operated with "code words" to win our majorities in the south. I worry that Republicans will now be pushed (as Lott was being pushed in his BET interview) to abandon appropirate "color blind" principles going forward.

Maybe the Republicans do need to push forward with a more open dialog and reconsideration of principles on race. It is obvious that the GOP has been unjustly demonized on this issue -- and the NAACP, Congressional Black Caucus, and other race-baiters should be called on this lie. I would love to see the GOP figure out a way to move forward a cohesive "conservative" agenda on race forward (school choice, Enterprise Zones, etc... and filling in the "etc" is probably the biggest challenge).

50 posted on 12/22/2002 7:56:03 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
I don't believe the Republican Party is racist.

You are now. With Lott stepping down, the floodgates are open. Perception is reality in politics.

51 posted on 12/22/2002 8:56:46 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
Maybe the Republicans do need to push forward with a more open dialog and reconsideration of principles on race. It is obvious that the GOP has been unjustly demonized on this issue -- and the NAACP, Congressional Black Caucus, and other race-baiters should be called on this lie. I would love to see the GOP figure out a way to move forward a cohesive "conservative" agenda on race forward (school choice, Enterprise Zones, etc... and filling in the "etc" is probably the biggest challenge).

I agree with you. I think one of the problems the Repubs have, is that they have are intimidated by PC and scared to speak their true feelings when it comes to race.

One example would be affirmative action. There is no doubt in my mind that the Repubs have the moral high ground when it comes to my issue. It is also an issue which the majority of Americans (as well as many blacks and Hispanics) would support the Republican position, if they weren't afraid to make their case. Unfortunately, most politicans are too scared to be called a bigot or a racist, to go on the offensive with regards to affirmative action.

One thing I will say for the liberals, is that they are very loud and they get their point of view across. Most Republicans, and conservatives in general, could use a bit more backbone IMO.
52 posted on 12/23/2002 1:16:00 AM PST by Michael2001
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To: Michael2001; ReleaseTheHounds
Repubs have the moral high ground when it comes to my [this] issue
53 posted on 12/23/2002 1:17:16 AM PST by Michael2001
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To: Tokhtamish
"Gee, yooper, I'm sorry you feel so persecuted by having to watch what you say about "those people". Not like the good old days."

Just what do you mean by "those people" and "the good old days"? Don't you realize that those are racially incendiary remarks? What kind of person are you anyway? Now don't you dare post such comments again or I'll report you to the moderator. Keep your thoughts and comments to yourself; you have no right to think or post comments like these.

Sucks to be taken out of context, doesn't it?

54 posted on 12/24/2002 4:30:01 PM PST by yooper
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