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Frist, healthcare are on rise Expertise is better fit with Bush, GOP
The Commercial Appeal/LATimes ^ | 12/22/02 | Ronald Brownstein

Posted on 12/22/2002 5:30:04 AM PST by GailA

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To: Kath
I believe I've been around here for years before you---not my fault BUSH can't read the constitution.
61 posted on 12/22/2002 3:58:04 PM PST by Founding Father
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To: Kath
Well, he fooled me. Dang - I always believe what they say here.
62 posted on 12/22/2002 7:50:50 PM PST by ClancyJ
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To: Austin Willard Wright
that Frist will abandon this past anti-spending record and suddenly become a big spender.

Just a gut feeling my FRiend!

He has been passionate in his defense of medical issues, and is a real Dr. of medicine. He has argued passionately in favor of stem cell research and development. I recall no mention of the rights of the donor. (all pro life/choice BS aside)

These two facts, together with the words and actions that I have heard and seen on the floor have indicated to me, at least, that he is a supporter of anything that helps to mitigate human suffering.

There is so much suffering that humans experience throughout their lives. Government should not be given the task of mitigating medically caused suffering, nor should medicine be more than a monetary consideration when it comes to the federal budget.

Frist's passionate defense of stem cell research and other enterprises, makes me believe that these issues will quickly hit the floor of the Senate and take a more important position in the federal budget.

I commend Frist's efforts on behalf of humanity, but I differ with him that government can or should be the arbiter and distribution mechanism for medical treatments and disease eradication.

Government has a role, but not the role of administration of medical services. Government can fund needed research and education, but not the delivery system.

Frist seems to disagree, and seems to advocate a much larger government footprint. Especially regarding AIDS and other communicable diseases.

This opens up government as the primary care provider. We cannot let this happen!

We cannot allow government to assume responsibility for providing medical care.

Frist, in his advocacy of this issue, will eventually make socialized medicine a reality in the United states. He seems to believe that government can make it all better.

This is what I believe he represents, and therefore advocates. He wants to do more through government and is not objective enough on this issue.

We cannot afford the dollar cost of this ideal, nor can we afford to fund anything major, other than research and development.

In my opinion, Frist believes that government should have a much larger role. I get this feeling from observing him over the past two years. He is quite consistent and readable. He will now be in the catbird seat to bring this agenda to the Senate. They will be reluctant to vote against these issues. Any issue that saves even a single human life is difficult to vote against! Trent lott just discovered that voting against a federal holiday for a black man was political suicide. I wonder how the history re-writers will view national free medical care.

Socialized medicine will become the norm as a result. We are simply following the trends in Europe,(they will say) as another mandate is assumed by government.

This time it will not be the fault of States not doing their job. It will be the fault of democrats who failed to hold on to their issue as republicans take it away and institute government controlled national medicine in one signature by Bush and less than one year of debate.

This one single issue w3ill transfer a huge chunk of what little we have left to call our industrial base.

We will be finished as a world leader in any area or any profession. We will be totally de-balled and rendered impotent. Our only claim to fame will be as a consumer of goods and services. We will be no beater than any one else. We will be totally globalized.

We will be the Union of the Socialist United States of America. And, we will be so in debt that nobody will invest. We will be no better tan France. Germany. Italy, or anyone else. The soviets will actually win this war of attrition and China will have us by the nads!

Life here will be no different than anywhere else. Globalization and the eventual "one world government" will be a reality.

I suppose I could just say, screw it, because I will have died and gone beyond when this bull-crap finally comes full circle. The re-writing of our Constitution will have occurred, and government will have assume it's place as the responsible entity for everything but balancing our checkbooks! And, even that will have a pamphlet dedicated to it. After they have disarmed us, and made us see the light, they will have total and un-mitigated control over each and every one of us!

This is why Lott had to go!

He was standing in the way of progress! I may be wrong, but Frist is just too liberal to TAKE lOTTS PLACE AT THE GATE OF REFORM.

63 posted on 12/22/2002 9:54:15 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
BEATER=BETTER
64 posted on 12/22/2002 10:00:36 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Long Cut
If you attack me on spelling and verbal skills as you have done to other tonite, I will be forced to take you to task as well.

While we try to eliminate mistakes, often we do not see the errors until we post.

This is not a way to make friends and infuence people.

Nor a way to make a good arguement.

65 posted on 12/22/2002 10:05:23 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
other=others
66 posted on 12/22/2002 10:13:15 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
I share some of your fears. Just about every Republican in the Senate is weak kneed and has statist tendencies. You almost had been buying your whole thesis until nearly the end when you defended Lott. Lott was a statist and, according to the National Taxpayers Union, had a worse record than Frist in supporting more spending. This attempt to make Traitor (defend affirmative action across the board) Lott into some sort of anti-big government folk hero only undermines your case.
67 posted on 12/23/2002 6:11:21 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Long Cut
Seriously, we're all worried about you.

Few things are more pathetic than posting your own article under your real name, then coming along behind it using your screen name saying, "Great article."

(If the straitjacket fits...)

68 posted on 12/23/2002 8:07:35 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: GailA
Contact your Senator "Do not vote for Frist as SML!"
69 posted on 12/23/2002 8:20:07 AM PST by Salvation
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To: Coleus
Can you post your list of articles here?
70 posted on 12/23/2002 8:22:30 AM PST by Salvation
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To: Austin Willard Wright
I keep seeing this ACU rating being bandied about the forum.

I do not think that this rating works well in the Senate, where votes are always traded for votes, and nothing is what it is.

Yes, I do view Lott as more protective of the Constitution then Frist. Frists voting patterns will radically change when he assumes the leadership.

Let's revisit this in 2004 and see what happened.

71 posted on 12/23/2002 8:35:54 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: GailA
Frist is an excellent choice. The Democrats have truly bungled this affair with Lott and now here are the consequences. If they try to suggest Frist is a racist, he can smile gently and mention how he has spent his free time going to Africa to treat ill children. And it will be much the same in any other attempt to smear him - Frist, so calm, sensible and quiet - the Democrats will look the shrill and unreasonable ones, and suffer accordingly.

We all have a weakness for firebrands. I miss Lady Thatcher as Prime Minister because she could intellectually destroy any leftist that came her way. However, an alternative route for crushing the left is putting them in a position where they hang themselves with their own crass and unreasonable ways. Frist's selection is an indication that this approach is the one President Bush intends to take. So far, he's had good success with it.

Regards, Ivan

72 posted on 12/23/2002 8:42:10 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: wirestripper
I wasn't particularly planning to attack you. Do you WISH to be attacked or something?

At any rate, we all make the occaisional spelling or typographical error, and I'm certainly not immune (my personal curse is my hunt-and-peck method of typing, coupled with my habit of hitting the keys HARD, like I was trying to drive nails with my fingertips). However, some people's posts are so consistently poor, so constantly in the same errors, that they indicate a deeper ignorance, or at least a complete lack of thinking before posting.

I simply point this out so that others can make the appropriate judgement about their overall credibility.

Note that it seems that the ones I pointed out were the precise ones willing to jump to ANY conclusion at all, absent any concrete proof, to condemn Frist. There WOULD, therefore, appear to be a relationship there, somewhere.

BTW, I'm not trying to make friends. Actually, I'm really not that much of a nice person.

73 posted on 12/23/2002 12:25:55 PM PST by Long Cut
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To: wirestripper
Well, I have not bandied the ACU ratings. The NTU ratings, which show that Lott has a poorer record than Frist on spending issues, are far more accurate gauge of opposition to big government. Having said that, I am skeptical of both Frist and Lott (as well as just about all Senators) so the future could go in any direction.
74 posted on 12/24/2002 5:16:54 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright
We are duty bound to hold their feet to the fire.

If we do not, and spending goes out of control in the name of bi-partisanship and winning the 2004 election, we will be no better that the rats.

Lott did in-fact, do a piss poor job of holding the spending of the non-existent surplus down. I believe the view at the time was to blow it all before the rats expanded the permanent social programs to a stellar magnitude. I was particularly disappointed with the farm bill.

The divisive politic are going to be rough next year. The rats are going to throw everything they have at us. We must be firm and not yield to emotional bribery. This destruction of Lott has not been a good omen. I am very concerned about the party.

Merry Christmas, by the way. I hope that you and yours enjoy a happy holiday.

75 posted on 12/24/2002 11:05:34 PM PST by Cold Heat
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