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I Would Have Voted For Strom in '48
David Yeagley

Posted on 12/22/2002 1:01:33 PM PST by Bad Eagle

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To: Stone Mountain
Sorry for the late response...
I know my statements sound extreme, but that's only because we're in extreme times, or times of extreme change. I use to have a black/middle eastern couple as neighbors. They once bragged, "In 50 years there won't be any white race."
They expected me, as an Indian, to rejoice with them.

I didn't. No other races have shown themselves able to manage themselves, or the world, as the white race has. What I'm saying is, take a good look at the world: it isn't going to get any better. It can only get worse, as it is doing.

The white race is, and always has been, the minority in the world. How did they get on top? They didn't start out there. Why are the darker races so inept, so corrupt, so weak today? Afrocentrists like to brag about the once great ancient Africa. How and why did the Negro people fall so far, so low, as modern Africa is today?

I think these are important questions. I think the white race has actually made more effort to be fair (--failed and late as the efforts are) than any other race when it comes to encountering other races.

But that's just the White Anglo Saxon Protestant portion of the white race. No, I'm not racist across the board.

A mixed blood person can pick what blood he wants in himself, and marry a full blood of that race, or marry a breed like himself. What other options are there?

I could ask you, what is the ideology of intermarriage? Why do it. If you say, "love," I will say that is subjective emotioanlism, or sexual prowess that would not have occurred except for the juxtaposition of races.
Now, those who design the juxtaposition of races must render an ideology.

Communists have done this. White Christian missionaries have done their share of intermarrying. Everyone seems to think it's all wonderful and "free" and "equal." Isn't this ideology after the fact?

I think I'm rambling...
More later.
141 posted on 12/30/2002 2:20:45 PM PST by Bad Eagle
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To: Bad Eagle; dirtboy
A mixed blood person can pick what blood he wants in himself, and marry a full blood of that race, or marry a breed like himself. What other options are there?

These sure don't sound like real options to me. Are you seriously saying that someone who is half black and half white can "pick" that they want to be white and try to find full-blooded white people interested in racial purity who will buy that and want to have children with them? Give me a break. Even if they decided that they themselves want to be black, how could they possibly find a partner who would be as interested in you as keeping the races "pure" that would even think of marrying a mixed-race person? Would you seriously consider marrying someone who was half-black and half-Indian that called themselves pure Indian? Sorry, but I have trouble believing that a person with this racial make-up will be accepted by those Indians who are interested in keeping their race "pure."

Your second suggestion is easily as bad - you would limit people with mixed-race backgrounds to look around until they found somebody with the identical mix that they have? You would have to feel wonder how someone like Mrs. Dirtboy who is French, Spanish, Apache, Yaqui and Maya would even go on a first date! Even if this were plausible in the least, it seems to go against your statements that mixed-race children are a "mistake." If, after all, these people were true "warriors of the heart," and realized that they were mistakes, why would they want to pass this mistake on to their children?

So... to answer your question, there are no other options - at least not in your world. If you had your way, mixed-race people would realize that they are mistakes, and knowing that, they would have little to no chance of finding love or having children. If the only options for mixed-race people are those that you listed above, it seems you are basically saying that since they are mistakes, they are screwed, and if they were true "warriors of the heart" and realizing this, they would take themselves out of the gene pool for the greater good.

In my world, people marry who they want to marry, and race may or may not be a significant factor depending on whom the participants are. But if the participants don't care about what race their partner is, I sure won't be going around calling them or their children "mistakes."


Integration and intermarriage is not a sign of Christian transcendence, but rather a cheap shot. I call it quick-fix Christianity. Has nothing to do with religion. Marry whom you will, but not in the name of Christ.

If God didn't want races to intermingle, why did he make them capable of having children together? Why did he allow technology that allowed people of different races to meet? And where exactly did Christ tell people not to marry outside of their race?

Studies show the kids are crippled, confused, and frustrated.

Please quote the studies that you are referring to. This is news to me. Have you ever heard of hybrid vigor?

This may be mistaken. I'm asserting an opinion. I know. I could be just plain wrong. The intellectual process however, just consider all angles.

I don't believe you have considered all the angles when it comes to mixed-race people. Are they just people that God has forsaken - mistakes from birth?
142 posted on 12/30/2002 3:51:00 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Stone Mountain
You are one extremely patient person! For this, you are completely outstanding in my experience as a professional journalist. The honors are yours.

Now, a major study on inter-breds is:
David R. Harris and Jeremiah Joseph Sim
An Emperical Look at the Social Construction of Race: The Case of Mixed-Race Adolescents
Report No.00-452
Population Studies Center, University of Michigan.

I think the web address is: http://www.psc.isr.umich.edu/pubs/
If this doesn't work for you, let me know.

Obviously, the human race is capable of a lot of activity that was never intended by God, at least, according to the Bible. Not all that is was meant to be. That is the whole take of the Bible on our reality here. This whole life is in the midst of a great "mistake." By faith, the believer hopes to endure it, and to find eternal reward later.

I don't think the race issue is particularly central to morality, but, sexuality is. I don't know what exactly are your standards of interpreting reality here are, so, I'm not sure where to go with this. Biblically, globalism is the wrong direction entirely. That's why the races were created (at Babel) in the first place, to keep man separated into groups.

I'm trying to deal with this in my Patriotism entries on BadEagle.com, under the Bad Eagle Speaks forum, or the one under that one. I forget which. The entry is "Patriotism." We have to start by understanding what a nation is. Thus, we historically have to reference the matter of race. Race is tied into the original concept of nationhood.

More later.
143 posted on 12/31/2002 8:32:48 PM PST by Bad Eagle
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To: Bad Eagle
Thanks for the link - unfortunately, all they had was the abstract of the study where they basically just state their conclusions. I would want to know what their methodology and sampling procedures were before making any kind of decision on its validity.

Even if this turned out to be true, it still doesn't answer the question of what the millions of mixed-race people out there should do with this knowledge? Looking forward to more direct answers from you to my last post soon...
144 posted on 01/02/2003 11:03:01 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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